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I never turn off the C61k. Therefore the boxes don't "uncheck".
Thats probably the best solution right now until they “fix” it.
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thre is a firmware 0x110C in the feed

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So nothing on the upcoming 4K page mentions any 4K playoff baseball? What is up with that...just like 3D, 4K is starting to feel like a bait and switch...

Well that might be overstating it, there were quite a few 4K games this year, my point is last year they had playoff baseball for the games MLB Network had on and maybe FS1 if I remember correctly--what would have changed? Or maybe schedule isn't updated, but they had a lot of Facebook ads last year and this year it is all Notre Dame football ads...
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So nothing on the upcoming 4K page mentions any 4K playoff baseball? What is up with that...just like 3D, 4K is starting to feel like a bait and switch...

Well that might be overstating it, there were quite a few 4K games this year, my point is last year they had playoff baseball for the games MLB Network had on and maybe FS1 if I remember correctly--what would have changed? Or maybe schedule isn't updated, but they had a lot of Facebook ads last year and this year it is all Notre Dame football ads...
you will get better response if you'll post such question in forums/sites about a Content Providers

DTV is not the place...
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you will get better response if you'll post such question in forums/sites about a Content Providers

DTV is not the place...
LOL. Well, there had been several discussions in this thread about the 4K programming from DirecTV, including posts by mods about it.

So the OP has every right to post what he/she did.

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sure, he can and he did
just IMHO not exactly the place to ask it, I'm sure he will get just speculations if it will
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from other forum by TheRatPatrol "Looks like the UFC fight on Saturday will be in 4K on 106, of course its a PPV event."
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Advice needed on getting DirecTV 4K service and boxes/dish

Hi all - I'm considering switching to DirecTV for the 4K service (I know its still young, but its still more live 4K than I can get elsewhere). I have three 4K TVs, but if I can only watch two 4K TVs at the same time that's fine.

Can someone provide advice on what specific dish and set top boxes I should insist on? I feel like if I just let them come out and install whatever is on the truck that I may get older equipment that may not last as long. For instance if there is a new 4K satellite or such I want to make sure that x months from now I'm not having to pay to upgrade equipment.

I need service on 6 TVs. This breaks down into the following: 3 4K TVs that I want DVR service on, and 3 1080p HD TVs that I just want a tiny cable box for, no DVR necessary. I also would like a lot of DVR storage, as much as possible. I also don't want to over-complicate the install by using older boxes to get more storage space, etc. I have RG6 cable TV feeds to all TV locations and want to use hardwiring and not rely on wireless TV signals.

What specific dish and boxes (model #s please) would you recommend, how much DVR storage will I get and what restrictions will there be (besides only 2 4K streams at a time)?

Also a few months ago there were several software bugs and issues with boxes dropping out of 4K mode and reverting back to 1080p and other such problems. Has that gotten sorted out by now?

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see the first thread for info on all the units



the newest unit is the hs17
it is hard capped at 7 tuners
it is a server for minis
each mini will use a tuner
so if you have 6 minis, you may only have 1 tuner left to record
it can have 100 timers for recording
a c61k mini is required for 4k, other models will not give 4k
you can view max 2 4k feeds at a time
note minis use the dvr functions of the hs17 server



i would not get that for 6 tvs, its too bottlenecked




an hr54 genie has 5 tuners
it provides 1 4k stream
it can work with minis, dvrs or receiver
hr24 is a dvr with 2 tuners
h25 is a receiver with 1 tuner
all can talk to one another with whole home viewing and share recordings
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see the first thread for info on all the units



the newest unit is the hs17
it is hard capped at 7 tuners
it is a server for minis
each mini will use a tuner
so if you have 6 minis, you may only have 1 tuner left to record
it can have 100 timers for recording
a c61k mini is required for 4k, other models will not give 4k
you can view max 2 4k feeds at a time
note minis use the dvr functions of the hs17 server



i would not get that for 6 tvs, its too bottlenecked




an hr54 genie has 5 tuners
it provides 1 4k stream
it can work with minis, dvrs or receiver
hr24 is a dvr with 2 tuners
h25 is a receiver with 1 tuner
all can talk to one another with whole home viewing and share recordings
I have 4(2 4K) minis connected to my HS17 and can record 5 programs at once. I don't experience any bottleneck issues that you suggested.
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I have 4(2 4K) minis connected to my HS17 and can record 5 programs at once. I don't experience any bottleneck issues that you suggested.

when all minis are viewing live tv?

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when all minis are viewing live tv?
Usually I have 3 minis on live TV at the same time. No issues.
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Is painfully slow. When the HR44 was first released it was lightening fast. I can't believe how things have regressed.

This is a new one. I tuned into a show that was recording, and after a minute or two backed out of it. I went to watch it later that night and couldn't find it in my recorded programs. I eventually found it by looking in my history file. From there it lead me to Continue Watching. I stopped and restarted but it never made it to my recorded programs. Had to 'continue watching' to finish. I checked the Client and it was where it was supposed to be.

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see the first thread for info on all the units



the newest unit is the hs17
it is hard capped at 7 tuners
it is a server for minis
each mini will use a tuner
so if you have 6 minis, you may only have 1 tuner left to record
it can have 100 timers for recording
a c61k mini is required for 4k, other models will not give 4k
you can view max 2 4k feeds at a time
note minis use the dvr functions of the hs17 server



i would not get that for 6 tvs, its too bottlenecked




an hr54 genie has 5 tuners
it provides 1 4k stream
it can work with minis, dvrs or receiver
hr24 is a dvr with 2 tuners
h25 is a receiver with 1 tuner
all can talk to one another with whole home viewing and share recordings
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I have 4(2 4K) minis connected to my HS17 and can record 5 programs at once. I don't experience any bottleneck issues that you suggested.
Thanks guys! I think I'll just go with the HS17 just to keep the equipment side of things simple. I think realistically we won't have more than 3 TVs going at once, maybe 4.

I have a question about how the boxes are wired or wireless... On the AT&T website I have the option to place the order for a "free" upgrade to a wireless option. When choosing this option it puts the Genie 2 in my cart. A DirecTV rep told me that the Genie 2 will be in my equipment rack, and it will be hard wired to the C61K genie mini 4K boxes, but it will be wireless to all the other 1080p HD boxes. Is that correct? If so, how reliable is that wireless network and can it interfere with my existing wireless and Bluetooth in the house?

I told him I didn't want wireless and he said if I call I can tell them I want WIRED boxes (C41?) instead of the wireless C41W, and they'll bring that equipment instead. Is that indeed the case? And am I correct to assume that I'm better off with the wired option, especially since I already have RG6 coax feeds at all TV locations? Thanks!
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Is painfully slow. When the HR44 was first released it was lightening fast. I can't believe how things have regressed.

This is a new one. I tuned into a show that was recording, and after a minute or two backed out of it. I went to watch it later that night and couldn't find it in my recorded programs. I eventually found it by looking in my history file. From there it lead me to Continue Watching. I stopped and restarted but it never made it to my recorded programs. Had to 'continue watching' to finish. I checked the Client and it was where it was supposed to be.
The missing programs in the playlist is a known software issue that they’re “working on”. You can try pressing 0 while in the list, that sometimes brings them back, if not, do a red button reset, that’ll bring them back.
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Thanks guys! I think I'll just go with the HS17 just to keep the equipment side of things simple. I think realistically we won't have more than 3 TVs going at once, maybe 4.

I have a question about how the boxes are wired or wireless... On the AT&T website I have the option to place the order for a "free" upgrade to a wireless option. When choosing this option it puts the Genie 2 in my cart. A DirecTV rep told me that the Genie 2 will be in my equipment rack, and it will be hard wired to the C61K genie mini 4K boxes, but it will be wireless to all the other 1080p HD boxes. Is that correct? If so, how reliable is that wireless network and can it interfere with my existing wireless and Bluetooth in the house?

I told him I didn't want wireless and he said if I call I can tell them I want WIRED boxes (C41?) instead of the wireless C41W, and they'll bring that equipment instead. Is that indeed the case? And am I correct to assume that I'm better off with the wired option, especially since I already have RG6 coax feeds at all TV locations? Thanks!
if you have coax, get wired
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Good luck. I've had the same upgrade scheduled twice in the last three weeks. Each time they sent me numerous texts (latest being two hours into the scheduled 4 hour scheduled period) indicating that they would make the schedule. I even had to text back "yes" a couple times to indicate I was still expecting the install. Then, each time they failed to show after failing to communicate they wouldn't be there. Each time I then spent lots of time trying to schedule the next install. Last time I spent 90 minutes on a "chat" before they said they couldn't help and I needed to call the following number (which turned out to be their big, one for all initial telephone number).

Well, they are scheduled again for tomorrow (0800-1200). Technical said the installers cancelled the last two because they didn't have any one available who knew how to install the Genie 2 (would have been nice if they figured that out a few days earlier, found someone, or at least told me not to expect any installer). This time technical supposedly warned them it is a 2 person install and it requires someone knowledgeable.

Sorry for the rant; but it makes me feel a little better. I'm currently no big proponent of AT&T/Directv customer service; however I'm trying to be positive about tomorrow's scheduled upgrade. :-)
I had an appointment scheduled last month for a Genie 2 upgrade as I wanted at least a few 4K channels and I have the free equipment upgrade plan.
The installer arrived and before I could barely say anything he asked if I was getting the Genie 2 and stated that he wouldn’t install it as it was “junk”. All he did was replace my old dish.
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I had an appointment scheduled last month for a Genie 2 upgrade as I wanted at least a few 4K channels and I have the free equipment upgrade plan.
The installer arrived and before I could barely say anything he asked if I was getting the Genie 2 and stated that he wouldn’t install it as it was “junk”. All he did was replace my old dish.
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I had an appointment scheduled last month for a Genie 2 upgrade as I wanted at least a few 4K channels and I have the free equipment upgrade plan.
The installer arrived and before I could barely say anything he asked if I was getting the Genie 2 and stated that he wouldn’t install it as it was “junk”. All he did was replace my old dish.
Yay, Directv
there are many people that say its junk
and there are those that are happy with it

much has to do with the software issues.

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My concern is that they will show up with the wireless boxes. On the ATT DirectTv website you can either select Wired and you'll get a Genie 1, or wireless and you'll get a Genie 2 but with all wireless clients. Likewise I don't see how to specify I need a couple 4K boxes. Unless you are supposed to order it and call them but that seems like quite a cludge and I'm sure if when I call they'll even know what I'm talking about, and still wind up showing up with the wrong equipment.
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Upgrade to 4k - Equipment Recs?

I am currently running 4 HD DVRs. One recently failed and needs to be replaced. Two others are older and very sluggish. I'm considering calling DTV and asking for all new equipment and upgrade at least one TV to 4k. Here is my current setup:


4k LG OLED: HR-44-500 (genie)
4k (pixel shift) Epson 5040 PJ: HR22-100 (recently failed)
HD Panasonic Plasma: HR24-500
HD Panasonic LCD: HR24-200


I would definitely like to have 4k content available on the OLED. We don't watch much TV on the Epson PJ, but it might be nice to have the option. No need for a 4k stream on the 2 HD units. I currently have a ton of storage with 4 DVRs, and I like that. I don't want to go with a new setup that has like half of the storage that I currently have. However, if I can have a similar capacity and use minis instead, that would reduce my bill, right? A few questions:


  • which genie should I request? The HR54, or the HS17?
  • what would be the best setup for the 2 HD TV's? Go with mini's, or get standalone DVRs? What is the current DVR model and capacity?
  • I understand that there are wireless minis. How well does this work? I have RG6 run from the attic to all of the TV locations, so I want to stick to wired receivers if I can.
  • I saw the previous discussions of tuner and timers. What are timers? The number of programs that can be set to record?
  • Should I expect a similar UI experience with either the HR54 or HS17 as I have with the HR44?
  • As a 20+ year DTV customer, I'm hoping to get some type of credits or discounts.
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@socalsharky first check condensed respond https://www.avsforum.com/forum/34-hd...l#post56902736
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Just recently, my 2015 Samsung tv is going into HDR mode (Backlighting 20, Contrast 100) for every 1080i channel and it seems to be really throwing off the image quality... since I am assuming that these channels are not broadcasting in HDR. Is this happening to anyone else?

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My concern is that they will show up with the wireless boxes. On the ATT DirectTv website you can either select Wired and you'll get a Genie 1, or wireless and you'll get a Genie 2 but with all wireless clients. Likewise I don't see how to specify I need a couple 4K boxes. Unless you are supposed to order it and call them but that seems like quite a cludge and I'm sure if when I call they'll even know what I'm talking about, and still wind up showing up with the wrong equipment.

place your order via phone
specify wired
if tech shows up with wireless, send him away
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I am currently running 4 HD DVRs. One recently failed and needs to be replaced. Two others are older and very sluggish. I'm considering calling DTV and asking for all new equipment and upgrade at least one TV to 4k. Here is my current setup:


4k LG OLED: HR-44-500 (genie)
4k (pixel shift) Epson 5040 PJ: HR22-100 (recently failed)
HD Panasonic Plasma: HR24-500
HD Panasonic LCD: HR24-200


I would definitely like to have 4k content available on the OLED. We don't watch much TV on the Epson PJ, but it might be nice to have the option. No need for a 4k stream on the 2 HD units. I currently have a ton of storage with 4 DVRs, and I like that. I don't want to go with a new setup that has like half of the storage that I currently have. However, if I can have a similar capacity and use minis instead, that would reduce my bill, right? A few questions:


  • which genie should I request? The HR54, or the HS17?
  • what would be the best setup for the 2 HD TV's? Go with mini's, or get standalone DVRs? What is the current DVR model and capacity?
  • I understand that there are wireless minis. How well does this work? I have RG6 run from the attic to all of the TV locations, so I want to stick to wired receivers if I can.
  • I saw the previous discussions of tuner and timers. What are timers? The number of programs that can be set to record?
  • Should I expect a similar UI experience with either the HR54 or HS17 as I have with the HR44?
  • As a 20+ year DTV customer, I'm hoping to get some type of credits or discounts.
you need a c61k for 4k, its a client
you can replace an hdvr with it, and replace the hr44 with an hr54
you will lose 2 tuners, and 50 timers
timers are the number of series you can have setup to record



you can keep what you have and add the c61k
replace the 44 with a 54
will cost $7 more a month


the hr22 can be replaced with an hr24 under warranty


the hr44/hr54/hs17 should all have the new guide



newest dvr is the hr24
newest 5 tuner genie is the hr54
its also has an hdmi out


the hs17 is the newest genie, and has 7 tuners and no hdmi out
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you need a c61k for 4k, its a client
you can replace an hdvr with it, and replace the hr44 with an hr54
you will lose 2 tuners, and 50 timers
timers are the number of series you can have setup to record



you can keep what you have and add the c61k
replace the 44 with a 54
will cost $7 more a month


the hr22 can be replaced with an hr24 under warranty


the hr44/hr54/hs17 should all have the new guide



newest dvr is the hr24
newest 5 tuner genie is the hr54
its also has an hdmi out


the hs17 is the newest genie, and has 7 tuners and no hdmi out

Thanks for the info. As I understand it, the HR54 can run 2 4k minis, but only one can be showing 4k at a time, correct?

Can the HR44 run an HDTV via HDMI at the same time as it is running 1 UHD and 1 HDTV via minis? That way I could install the HR54 on one of my HDTVs and use the 2 minis on the UHD sets and avoid additional equipment charges, I think.


Any reliability or PQ differences between the HR54 and HS17?
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Thanks for the info. As I understand it, the HR54 can run 2 4k minis, but only one can be showing 4k at a time, correct?

Can the HR44 run an HDTV via HDMI at the same time as it is running 1 UHD and 1 HDTV via minis? That way I could install the HR54 on one of my HDTVs and use the 2 minis on the UHD sets and avoid additional equipment charges, I think.


Any reliability or PQ differences between the HR54 and HS17?
hr44 cannot run a 4k client, the hr54 can. all clients can be 4k clients, but only 1 4k feed at a time



the hr54 has an hdmi for a hd tv


remember removing the hddvrs will lose 2 tuners each, and 50 timers each
and a mini uses a tuner from the hr54 for live tv, reducing its recording capability


you need to decide how many timers you have, and need
and how your recording will be used
i would never trade a dvr for a mini, its a downgrade imho


putting in an hs17 would require all dvrs to be replaced with minis
again from what you have i consider this a downgrade


to gain a couple of 4k channels just is not worth it at this time imho

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One benefit of the Genie 2 I had not really thought about is the quick boot time of the clients as they don't need to download satellite data. Last night our kitten squeezed behind the cabinet under the TV and managed to turn off then on the power switch on the power strip
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hr44 cannot run a 4k client, the hr54 can. all clients can be 4k clients, but only 1 4k feed at a time

you need to decide how many timers you have, and need
and how your recording will be used
i would never trade a dvr for a mini, its a downgrade imho

putting in an hs17 would require all dvrs to be replaced with minis
again from what you have i consider this a downgrade


to gain a couple of 4k channels just is not worth it at this time imho

Thanks again, mdram.
I meant HR54 earlier, but accidentally typed HR44. I have learned that HR44 will not meet my needs.


I didn't realize that the HS17 required all DVRs to be replaced with minis. That's a deal killer for me. No redundancy is a bad thing. I've had too many boxes fail, or not record a program for some reason. Anything really important I always record on 2 boxes. I want to maintain that capability. I sounds like my best option to keep most of my current functionality, but add 4k would be:


UHD OLED: HR44-500 --> HR54 with 4k mini
UHD PJ: HR22-100 --> 4k mini
HDTV: HR24-200 --> New HR24 (very sluggish)
HDTV: HR24-500 --> Keep it, works well


Do the 3-digit numbers in the model number designate recording capacity in any way?
Will the overall recording capacity of the new setup be equal or greater than the old?
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