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Pay for the Directv protection plan.
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Uh, no. I do have the plan, told the CSR I wanted the upgrade that was part of that plan, she said that was fine but it required a new commitment. I asked what the value of the plan was if that was the case, she told me it was free shipping on a replacement DVR, that was about it. Told me I'd be better off dropping the plan and just paying the $20 shipping fee.
It also covers free service calls (otherwise $99.00). Several times in the past, I've had technicians out to the house to work on or replace the satellite dish or replace/run new inside wiring.

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Yeah, that is an advantage for some. I do all my own installs - I don't trust the sloppy work many installers do. Aiming the dish is not that hard, and it's pretty easy to pop in a new LNB, did that a few times - you can get the latest and greatest on ebay for $25. I much prefer all my wiring be run in wall cavities, I'd never allow them to string wires across the exterior of my home as I've seen done 90% of the time. I'm the exception I know, but there really isn't much to go wrong with the system other than a bad LNB, switch/swim or receiver. Problem solved by swapping them out, all pretty easy to trouble shoot - at least for me.
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Yeah, that is an advantage for some. I do all my own installs - I don't trust the sloppy work many installers do. Aiming the dish is not that hard, and it's pretty easy to pop in a new LNB, did that a few times - you can get the latest and greatest on ebay for $25. I much prefer all my wiring be run in wall cavities, I'd never allow them to string wires across the exterior of my home as I've seen done 90% of the time. I'm the exception I know, but there really isn't much to go wrong with the system other than a bad LNB, switch/swim or receiver. Problem solved by swapping them out, all pretty easy to trouble shoot - at least for me.
I would assume it has something to do with being with Directv for 25 years but IDK. When 4K came out I was able to get Genie 700 and 4K client WITHOUT extending my contract as I would not have done it otherwise given the paltry 4K content. Rep said it was benefit of protection plan.
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I much prefer all my wiring be run in wall cavities, I'd never allow them to string wires across the exterior of my home as I've seen done 90% of the time.
That's strange. You show MI as your home. I've lived there, and thought most homes had basements. Hard to believe that 90% of the homes in your area have wires across the exterior of the house. Where I am now in Ohio, pretty much everyone has basements and there are basically no visible outside wires. My outside wire is less than two feet from dish to entry into wall/foundation.

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I would assume it has something to do with being with Directv for 25 years but IDK. When 4K came out I was able to get Genie 700 and 4K client WITHOUT extending my contract as I would not have done it otherwise given the paltry 4K content. Rep said it was benefit of protection plan.
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That's strange. You show MI as your home. I've lived there, and thought most homes had basements. Hard to believe that 90% of the homes in your area have wires across the exterior of the house. Where I am now in Ohio, pretty much everyone has basements and there are basically no visible outside wires. My outside wire is less than two feet from dish to entry into wall/foundation.
I've been with D for about 18 years. When one of my HR24 units died a few months ago I had a long discussion with a couple of people at D none would budge.


As for basements - yes most homes do have basements but not all and not all sections of the house have basements. I do, but still vividly recall my anger quite a few years ago when Comcast came out to hook up cable and ran a wire from the back of the house that was brick and stapled it across a section of siding and then drilled a hole through the siding to get the cable into the house. I had told them I wanted the wire through the brick into the basement, but odds are they didn't have a masonry bit so they said screw it and messed up my siding. I did make them come out and correct it, but I had to look at a plug in a very viable area
for years until I replaced the siding.

Regardless most installers get paid by the job and want to do as many as possible in a day, they are not going to spend time fishing wires through walls and such. They will do things the fastest way possible.
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I would assume it has something to do with being with Directv for 25 years but IDK. When 4K came out I was able to get Genie 700 and 4K client WITHOUT extending my contract as I would not have done it otherwise given the paltry 4K content. Rep said it was benefit of protection plan.
Just be sure.. Genies servers are HR34/44/54 and HS17, while the -XXX designator is a code of manufacturer.
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I would assume it has something to do with being with Directv for 25 years but IDK. When 4K came out I was able to get Genie 700 and 4K client WITHOUT extending my contract as I would not have done it otherwise given the paltry 4K content. Rep said it was benefit of protection plan.

rep messed up
the equipment is free, but you still should get a contract with any upgrade.
heck you may actually have one.
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Just be sure.. Genies servers are HR34/44/54 and HS17, while the -XXX designator is a code of manufacturer.
As I said, having been with Directv 24 plus years, I know their system pretty well. I did ask a question about PQ on 500 vs 700 though; it was on HR54. I think it’s redundant now to list the first part of model number on HR44/54 or HS17 for a new install.

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the equipment is free, but you still should get a contract with any upgrade.
heck you may actually have one.
Customer retention can do almost anything they want within reason. I don’t think they messed up and I keep up with contact length.

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As I said, having been with Directv 24 plus years, I know their system pretty well. I did ask a question about PQ on 500 vs 700 though; it was on HR54. I think it’s redundant now to list the first part of model number on HR44/54 or HS17 for a new install.

500 vs 700 should not be any pic difference
its a diff manufacturer, but same specs


first part of the model is the most important

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good luck with that
a guy on a diff forum was told the same thing, he ent back and looked at the order confirmation, and sure enough a 2 year contract

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So what plan/equipment should I be looking for if I want the best 4K picture...

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So what plan/equipment should I be looking for if I want the best 4K picture...

c61k is the only 4k option
paired with an hr54 or hs17


the 54 allows use of hr24's if you already have them

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paired with an hr54 or hs17

the 54 allows use of hr24's if you already have them

This would be my first experience with DirectTV.

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how many tvs do you want? how many 4k?

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how many tvs do you want? how many 4k?

One in the main living area and another in a side room.

Both are 4K.

And I don't really record/DVR anything.

On a side note - does DirectTV still require a dish? I thought they were talking about getting rid of the dish for DirectTV years ago...

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One in the main living area and another in a side room.

Both are 4K.

And I don't really record/DVR anything.

On a side note - does DirectTV still require a dish? I thought they were talking about getting rid of the dish for DirectTV years ago...

for 2 4k feedsm hs17 and 2 c61k's


and directv uses satellites, so yeah you need a dish
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And for 4K, you need coax connection, wireless does not exist yet. If it ever will, I don’t know.
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and directv uses satellites, so yeah you need a dish
DIRECTV NOW (now called AT&T TV NOW) allows streaming

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DIRECTV NOW (now called AT&T TV NOW) allows streaming

yes, and so does netflix


but they are both diff services and not included in the directv cost


since the question was asked about directv, i answered about that service

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DIRECTV NOW (now called AT&T TV NOW) allows streaming
I believe the conversation revolves around D*'s 4k offerings which, TMK, aren't included with ATTTVN (we do need a better abbreviation for that..)

To the issue of the rest of DirecTV's offerings: no, you don't *need* a dish. Just about everything will stream from DirecTV's site or from the individual channel's app or website. For all intents and purposes, you could take your dish down, put your receiver in a box and still enjoy most of what's available via satellite. Even easier if you have an HTPC. However, that doesn't help with all of D*'s 4K stuff.

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To ALSO be fair, I had RZC on my main screen and the Game Mix on one of the others, this past Sunday. Don't recall any pixellation. I did see one game freeze twice but Andrew Siciliano called attention to it, leading me to believe it was from the network as I kinda doubt he can see my TVs. I have also seen freezes and glitches on individual games within Game Mix, but not Game Mix, itself. IOW, I'll see one game freeze or drop out while the other 7 continue on. I have also witnessed occasions where all of one network's games will glitch, but the other net's games look fine. Not saying there's not an issue, but I am saying I didn't experience anything that stuck in my head as a DirecTV problem. I'm usually the first one to go look at the sky (this IS Florida, after all) or take a glance at my signal meters any time I see anything amiss.

Maybe it's because I have older gear?? That said, I will pay closer attention, this Sunday.
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Looks like DirecTV added another live 4K channel. I don't recall seeing 109 before!

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Looks like more native 4K college games coming...

NEW YORK – Oct. 10, 2019 – Beginning this weekend on Oct. 12, ESPN will deliver select regular season college football games live in native 4K resolution as part of the “Samsung QLED 4K Game of the Week.” This agreement with Samsung, who serves as production collaborator and presenting sponsor, kicks off with Saturday’s matchup between No. 7 University of Florida and No. 5 Louisiana State University at 8 p.m. ET on ESPN and DIRECTV on channel 107.9at*. This “Samsung QLED 4K Game of the Week” live telecast marks the first in a package that includes six college football games this season, as well as a 4K feed that will be part of ESPN’s “Megacast” presentation of the College Football Playoff National Championship Game on Jan. 13, 2020......

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the ESPN 4k game is already loaded into the DirecTV guide / channel 107 Sat night .

also the 4k chart has been updated
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I posted a year or so ago on this site that it would take a major sports network getting into 4K programming before it really takes off; I even mentioned ESPN. Looks like they are putting their toe in the water with this partnership deal. Once they go on their own as ESPN 4K, I see the 4K channels exploding as live sports hit the 18-49 audience sweet spot for advertisers.

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Now we just need Monday Night Football in 4K.
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Sportscenter in 4k would be amazing. Also hoping NBA on TNT goes 4K at some point. That's my favorite sports regular season broadcast to watch.
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, I see the 4K channels exploding as live sports hit the 18-49 audience sweet spot for advertisers.
Not to quibble, but - outside of enthusiasts such as us - not enough people will flock to view a sporting event just because it's in 4k to move the ratings needle enough to justify a hike in ad prices. It's the same total number of viewers with a handful viewing in 4k. Can't make any more money through advertising as it's that total number they sell. Therefore, the expense of the 4k production must be recovered some other way, such as backing from set manufacturers or providers such as AT&T.

For a large-scale rollout, MPVDs have to have the bandwidth to carry the channel and customer equipment that can display it. Additionally, those MPVDs have to be able to absorb higher carriage fees as the networks offering the option are most certainly going to want additional income for their effort.

There'll only be an "explosion" of 4K live sports if there's money to be made from doing it or money to be lost from NOT doing it. Neither condition is in play, yet.
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