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What sound signal is available from Directv's system. What I think I understand so far is that in the Genie client one can choose a Dolby digial output or a "Standard Signal" which is 2 channel stereo.
Is the Dolby Signal uniform across all channels or vary with the channel source?
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What sound signal is available from Directv's system. What I think I understand so far is that in the Genie client one can choose a Dolby digial output or a "Standard Signal" which is 2 channel stereo.
Is the Dolby Signal uniform across all channels or vary with the channel source?
Mono/Stereo/DDxx/Atmos...
All channels are free of selecting own format depending of the source.
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On the ESPN 4K game of the week yesterday, I could really notice the artifacting on Michigan's white uniforms, the broadcast seemed somewhat bitstarved. I wonder if D* was having bandwidth limitations given there were 3 live games in 4K simultaneously? The other 2 games looked fine, but I realize those are 1080p upconverts so perhaps not as much bandwidth demand.
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ATT/DTV have more sat bandwidth than could use; look at Gary Toma and Tom's tables at iamanedgecutter site
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Looks like there will be 21 NBA games in 4k HDR this year on Directv! https://watch.att.com/directv/4k/#top
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If that’s the case then they should increase the bandwidth on numerous HD channels where their PQ obviously lags some of the streaming services.
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If that’s the case then they should increase the bandwidth on numerous HD channels where their PQ obviously lags some of the streaming services.

they can only send what they get


not sure what that is compared to other services

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The Clippers-Mavericks game was nothing spectacular, just another uncompressed 1080p feed is what it appeared to me.
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The Clippers-Mavericks game was nothing spectacular, just another uncompressed 1080p feed is what it appeared to me.
I agree as I caught the third quarter by accident. Not that impressive in comparison to previous broadcasts.
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The Clippers-Mavericks game was nothing spectacular, just another uncompressed 1080p feed is what it appeared to me.
Agreed! It was very blurry and not impressive at all. It seemed like it got a little better towards the end of the game but still very disappointing. It still looked better than the fox sports HD broadcast in Dallas but their video/audio quality has always been horrible. I'm wondering if both the home and away team broadcasts use the same cameras? My guess is they just used the bad cameras that the Mavs broadcasts usually uses and just upscaled it to 4k. Hopefully the Lakers/Jazz broadcast is much better. They also added a Raptors/Rockets game for next Thursday that wasn't on the original NBAtv 4k schedule that was posted. I'm wondering why there's an NBAtv game next Thursday and no NBA on TNT that night.
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not sure what that is compared to other services
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I have a 2019 Samsung 8 Series 65” tv. It says to support HLG, but every time I watch a Directv 4K broadcast, I don’t get it in HDR. Has anyone else had this issue?
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i have a 2019 samsung 8 series 65” tv. It says to support hlg, but every time i watch a directv 4k broadcast, i don’️t get it in hdr. Has anyone else had this issue?
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i have a 2019 samsung 8 series 65” tv. It says to support hlg, but every time i watch a directv 4k broadcast, i don’️t get it in hdr. Has anyone else had this issue?
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I have a 2019 Samsung 8 Series 65” tv. It says to support HLG, but every time I watch a Directv 4K broadcast, I don’t get it in HDR. Has anyone else had this issue?
I have the KS8000 and it works fine. First, make sure the 4K program is actually an HDR program. Not all the 4K content is actual HDR.

Second, make sure you have UHD Color enabled for that particular input. This is done in the Samsung settings menu. It might be named differently for your particular model.

Lastly, make sure you didn't make any changes to your HDR picture settings.
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not sure what that is compared to other services
About a year ago I compared PQ of several streaming services, including DirectvNow, YouTube TV and one other whose name I’ve forgotten. All had better PQ on many of the same channels than Directv. The picture was often sharper & more detailed then D*, yet they were as clean as D*’s channels. If you need proof, simply grab a few of the available streaming apps (most at no cost) for some of the individual channels and compare them to their counterparts on D*. The problem with these is that you are forced to watch the commercials. Even my wife was able to see the difference.

The only reason I didn’t switch, was the lack of a physical DVR. I’ve never been a fan of cloud-based DVRs. So with all the supposedly available bandwidth, PQ is still being throttled on many channels. I’m not saying the PQ is bad, but until you compare it with a streaming service you won’t be aware of the difference. It is what it is.

BTW, my comparisons were viewed on top-notch OLED TVs.
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I have a 2019 Samsung 8 Series 65” tv. It says to support HLG, but every time I watch a Directv 4K broadcast, I don’️t get it in HDR. Has anyone else had this issue?
I have the KS8000 and it works fine. First, make sure the 4K program is actually an HDR program. Not all the 4K content is actual HDR.

Second, make sure you have UHD Color enabled for that particular input. This is done in the Samsung settings menu. It might be named differently for your particular model.

Lastly, make sure you didn't make any changes to your HDR picture settings.
Thanks for the reply! HDR works fine with any other source (all sources into my pioneer elite which share a common out to tv). When watching Thursday night football on channel 105 directv, I only get a 4k signal but no HDR. It’s kinda driving me crazy..
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About a year ago I compared PQ of several streaming services, including DirectvNow, YouTube TV and one other whose name I’ve forgotten. All had better PQ on many of the same channels than Directv. The picture was often sharper & more detailed then D*, yet they were as clean as D*’s channels. If you need proof, simply grab a few of the available streaming apps (most at no cost) for some of the individual channels and compare them to their counterparts on D*. The problem with these is that you are forced to watch the commercials. Even my wife was able to see the difference.

The only reason I didn’t switch, was the lack of a physical DVR. I’ve never been a fan of cloud-based DVRs. So with all the supposedly available bandwidth, PQ is still being throttled on many channels. I’m not saying the PQ is bad, but until you compare it with a streaming service you won’t be aware of the difference. It is what it is.

BTW, my comparisons were viewed on top-notch OLED TVs.





what was the resolutions sent by each service? and by directv?
it not necessarily a throttle if they only get and pass on 720p, and you get 1080p from the streaming service

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what was the resolutions sent by each service? and by directv?
it not necessarily a throttle if they only get and pass on 720p, and you get 1080p from the streaming service
the resolution is not enough !
add to that interlaced or not; frequency (fps); bandwidth … at least for correct comparing
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the resolution is not enough !
add to that interlaced or not; frequency (fps); bandwidth … at least for correct comparing



the rez should tell you if its interlaces 1080i vs 1080p


but yeah, more info is needed.
you can stream 4k from someplace and say its better than the 480 sent by directv/dish ect


without knowing whats being compared, its useless info

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About a year ago I compared PQ of several streaming services, including DirectvNow, YouTube TV and one other whose name I’ve forgotten. All had better PQ on many of the same channels than Directv. The picture was often sharper & more detailed then D*, yet they were as clean as D*’s channels. If you need proof, simply grab a few of the available streaming apps (most at no cost) for some of the individual channels and compare them to their counterparts on D*. The problem with these is that you are forced to watch the commercials. Even my wife was able to see the difference.

The only reason I didn’t switch, was the lack of a physical DVR. I’ve never been a fan of cloud-based DVRs. So with all the supposedly available bandwidth, PQ is still being throttled on many channels. I’m not saying the PQ is bad, but until you compare it with a streaming service you won’t be aware of the difference. It is what it is.

BTW, my comparisons were viewed on top-notch OLED TVs.
I can see that as a possibility. I have noticed that with a few channels I regularly watch. It's becoming noticeable on some of my locals as well versus OTA.
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what was the resolutions sent by each service? and by directv?
it not necessarily a throttle if they only get and pass on 720p, and you get 1080p from the streaming service
1080p for both. Obviously some stations use 720p natively, but the comparisons I did were ‘like for like’.
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1080p for both. Obviously some stations use 720p natively, but the comparisons I did were ‘like for like’.
the only thing on directv that is 1080p is ppv
1080i and 720p are the norm
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the only thing on directv that is 1080p is ppv
1080i and 720p are the norm
Didn't those resolutions go away with the disabling of "Native On"?

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