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mdram 05-06-2016 03:20 PM

Directv II HD/4k
 
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A short explanation of DirecTV equipment as of 5/6/16

There are 4 types of receivers

1. Receiver - outputs a signal, has a single tunet (H-25, H-25, ect)
2. DVR - outputs a signal, has at 2 tuners (HR-24, HR-21, ect are 2 tuner models)
3. Genie - a special DVR with 5 tuners (HR-34,HR-44, HR-54) also used to feed mini's
Each Genie can have up to 8 minis attached to it, but can only feed 3 at a time.
4. mini - client box, no tuners. it must have a genie in order to work. (directv actually calls this a mini genie, but i will just use mini)
5. Genie 2 - a headless dvr with 7 tuners (hs17) used to feed minis
capable of 2 4k streams at a time. can feed up to 7 minis at one time

when a mini connects to a genie it uses a tuner, reducing the count of tuners available
to record.

for 4k
an hr-44 can feed on demand 4k mini(c61k)
an hr-54 can feed on demand and live 4k to a 4k mini(c61k)
hs-17 can feed on demand and live 4k to up to 2 4k minis(c61k) at one tme
note: A mini can be replaced by a Certified Directv Ready TV (an RVU client). RVU software is handled/updated by the tv manufacturer. The only official RUV connection method is to run a coax from the swm splitter to the tv, then use a deca to connect the coax to the tv ethernet port.

current rvu list
https://support.directv.com/equipment/4386

eventually a reverse band lnb will be needed for 4k (when is unknown at this time)

neither and hr-44 or hr-54 can output 4k via hdmi
the only unit that can is the c61k and it must have hr-54 or hs-17 to feed it the signal

the hs17 cannot output any signal on its own it must use a mini
you cannot have any other receiver or dvr with an hs17, only minis

for 4k guide info

Open the Guide, LEFT arrow into the Channel ID (like "104 DTV4K") and press the Info button. You will get a list of all upcoming shows on that channel. Works for all channels on Directv -- always has. I hated the Guide compared to the TIVO guide when we first got Directv, so I went looking for improvement and came up with this.

Another option, use the Guide on Directv.com: https://www.directv.com/guide?lpos=Header:1
It's the same Guide, but it is MUCH faster than the tv version.

updated 8/31/17

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P Smith 05-06-2016 10:19 PM

Only ONE C61k or DTV supporting RVU 4k TV could be watching 4k content !

turls 05-07-2016 02:06 AM

Is this the only good source for a DirecTV 4K Baseball Schedule going forward (without checking the guide constantly)? Is there a chance they will do different MLB Network games?

http://m.mlb.com/network/shows/?id=mlbn_showcase

So every game in May is a New York team :rolleyes:

Ken Ross 05-07-2016 11:20 AM

Unless I'm missing it, I don't see where it mentions these games as being broadcast in 4K.

The irony is that those who are probably most interested in the N.Y. games, can't watch them. :(

wco81 05-07-2016 11:48 AM

So when are they going to have a real 4K DVR with HDR, HDMI 2.x and H.265?

P Smith 05-07-2016 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 43857298)
So when are they going to have a real 4K DVR with HDR, HDMI 2.x and H.265?

never!
slice1900 brought enough arguments against it; wait for ATT server-client new development

mdram 05-08-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by P Smith (Post 43847978)
Only ONE C61k or DTV supporting RVU 4k TV could be watching 4k content !

forgot about that one, thnaks

StevenC56 05-08-2016 06:29 PM

Cancelled my order again. Received 2 phone messages from a person who claimed to be from Directv earlier in the week saying they were notified that I had some concerns about my upcoming install. (From my emails to Costco Customer relations no doubt} I checked the number and it wasn't from Directv, it was from a company called "Smart Circle". Apparently they have some big network that sells Directv at Costco, Sams Club, Walmart and more. Then I received another phone call today to confirm my appointment for tomorrow. Called Directv to cancel my install, and they couldn't do it because the order wasn't placed through them of course. The Directv agent told me they do in fact have their own installers, and he was well aware of the "Smart Circle" situation and their network of contractors. I'm going to contact AT&T to see what they can do since my Uverse bundle contract is up at the end of the month anyway. At least the I will be dealing with Directv instead of a 3rd, 4th, and 5th party companies/individuals. Had to call the Costco/Directv phone number to cancel.

mdram 05-09-2016 04:51 AM

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some third party are great, some not so great

StevenC56 05-09-2016 08:33 AM

Not willing to gamble. If something goes wrong with the install or purchase transaction, DirecTV won't even be able to help.

mdram 05-09-2016 09:25 AM

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actually once its installed, i do believe directv does the warranty work

StevenC56 05-09-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mdram (Post 43895154)
actually once its installed, i do believe directv does the warranty work

Not if the problem is due to improper installation.

markrubin 05-09-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by StevenC56 (Post 43898298)
Not if the problem is due to improper installation.

if you go direct with D*

I recommend you buy the protection plan (the basic plan for $7.99/month)

StevenC56 05-09-2016 11:32 AM

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if you go direct with D*

I recommend you buy the protection plan (the basic plan for $7.99/month)

What does the protection plan cover that wouldn't normally be covered? I'm not worried about the hardware-They will have to replace any failed hardware as long as I have service with them barring any damage from liquids or something of that nature.

mdram 05-09-2016 11:40 AM

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What does the protection plan cover that wouldn't normally be covered? I'm not worried about the hardware-They will have to replace any failed hardware as long as I have service with them barring any damage from liquids or something of that nature.

protection plan pays for shipping/tech visit to fix the issue
otherwise its @ $20 shipping and $50 per tech visit

StevenC56 05-09-2016 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mdram (Post 43898762)
protection plan pays for shipping/tech visit to fix the issue
otherwise its @ $20 shipping and $50 per tech visit

They have a tech come out for a simple Geni swap and charge $50? Uverse just ships you the replacement no charge and then pays for the return too.

mdram 05-09-2016 11:47 AM

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They have a tech come out for a simple Geni swap and charge $50? Uverse just ships you the replacement no charge and then pays for the return too.

they have been known to wave the fee

genie usually requires a tech visit, people have talked them into getting the replacement mailed, i did once.
but again, they charge $20 for that

markrubin 05-09-2016 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenC56 (Post 43898546)
What does the protection plan cover that wouldn't normally be covered? I'm not worried about the hardware-They will have to replace any failed hardware as long as I have service with them barring any damage from liquids or something of that nature.

they have more lawyers that write the fine print on what is covered or not: and they usually always have the final word...having the protection plan gives you a little more leverage, and a little more peace of mind dealing with what has become the worst bureaucracy you will ever have to deal with (yes worse than Comcast IMO)

based on what has happened to you so far, it may be a good investment...:)

MRM4 05-09-2016 12:46 PM

I just bought a new Sony 4k TV a few weeks ago and it's supposed to receive DirecTV 4k without a box (at least that's how I understand it). How does it work to get that programming? I currently have a HR-44 already on that TV and a mini in another room.

P Smith 05-09-2016 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MRM4 (Post 43900738)
I just bought a new Sony 4k TV a few weeks ago and it's supposed to receive DirecTV 4k without a box (at least that's how I understand it). How does it work to get that programming?

search and read about "RVU" here

CCsoftball7 05-09-2016 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MRM4 (Post 43900738)
I just bought a new Sony 4k TV a few weeks ago and it's supposed to receive DirecTV 4k without a box (at least that's how I understand it). How does it work to get that programming? I currently have a HR-44 already on that TV and a mini in another room.

You need to activate the RVU. Your TV and HR44 will need to be connected to the same network using a hard-wired connection, either through ethernet directly or via a Deca. You CAN activate it via chat/phone, but they may insist on a service call.

MRM4 05-09-2016 12:52 PM

Thanks.

mdram 05-09-2016 12:57 PM

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I just bought a new Sony 4k TV a few weeks ago and it's supposed to receive DirecTV 4k without a box (at least that's how I understand it). How does it work to get that programming? I currently have a HR-44 already on that TV and a mini in another room.

make sure its on the certified list.
some newer models are not yet

also its a $7 per month fee
and with an hr44 you cant get live 4k, only ppv/on demand stuff

see post #1

MRM4 05-09-2016 12:59 PM

It's a 2015 model (850C). I'll check with them on it.

mdram 05-09-2016 01:01 PM

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It's a 2015 model (850C). I'll check with them on it.

https://support.directv.com/app/answ...oes-it-work%3F


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