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My recollection is Marsha Clark and Darden were equally inept. Won a nice size pool betting against all the necks in the office.
After watching Bugliosi's analysis of the prosecution's astounding blunders, I agree with you.
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I thought I remembered Vincent Bugliosi coming out of retirement and helping the prosecution during the OJ trial...trying to somewhat create a 'Dream Team' for the prosecution...for those who don't know who he is- he is most famous for prosecuting Charles Manson
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The O.J.: Made in America documentary reran on ESPN2 recently. Because my daughter and son in law liked it so much, I decided, at long last, to watch it. When I first posted to this thread, over a year ago, I explained that I gave up on watching the documentary because I thought it contained nothing I didn't already know, at least in general terms. My initial reaction still holds true with respect to the events arising from the murders of Nicolle Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. I admit, though, that I learned some interesting things I had not known about Simpson's Las Vegas kidnapping trial, which resulted in him receiving a 33 year sentence.

My overall take on the effects of the rise and fall of O.J. Simpson remains as it ever was: the combination of the murder trial jury having engaged in the most famous, and to my mind most outrageous, case of jury nullification in the history of American jurisprudence, and Simpson's sleazy conduct afterwards, combined to set set back race relations in the United States a generation.

Racial prejudice, fomented, and in some places encouraged, by our sad history of slavery, has been our national curse since the dawn of the republic. Just as I had thought black and white Americans might actually not only try to understand but listen to each other, O.J. his crime, his trial, and his actions after the trial, they instead retreated to their adversarial corners. This is our tragedy. I hope we can do better.
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We have to do better. If we are to continue as ONE nation.
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O.J. comes up for parole sometime soon in July. He could be tasting freedom very shortly.
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O.J. comes up for parole sometime soon in July. He could be tasting freedom very shortly.
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All indications are that O.J. Simpson will be granted parole Thursday when the Nevada Board of Parole Commissioners hears his latest appeal...while he wouldn’t be eligible to leave the Lovelock Correctional Center until Oct. 1, this should be the day Simpson, 70, has been dreaming of and working toward for nine years...

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Anyone know if there's a parade scheduled?

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His parole hearing is going to be steamed live on CBSSports.com and aired live on ESPN.


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His parole hearing is going to be steamed live on CBSSports.com and aired live on ESPN

they're treating this like the day his murder trial verdict was revealed...something tells me we won't get the same type of viewer numbers
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O.J. Simpson granted parole; will be free from Nevada prison by October

Simpson has been granted parole by a unanimous vote the Nevada Board of Parole Commissioners, and is eligible to walk out the gates of Lovelock Correctional Facility by Oct. 1 of this year...

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Glad he was granted parole. This sentencing was a payback for the judicial travesty that took place in 1995.
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Glad he was granted parole. This sentencing was a payback for the judicial travesty that took place in 1995.

yeah a 33 year sentence for a robbery conviction is beyond absurd...the sentence was not for the robbery but for his murder acquittal
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^ I hear the Jets are looking for a running back
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For those not paying attention in 1995, a sloppy investigation, a detective who committed perjury, and incomplete documentation of chain of custody of evidence were the primary reasons for the acquittal.

A travesty occurred when a detective in the case invoked the Fifth.

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What happened in 1995 was jury nullification. He killed two people in the most heinous way. While the prosecution made mistakes, the DNA evidence alone should have convicted him beyond a shadow of a doubt. He should spend the rest of his life in prison and I don't really care how he gets there. Al Capone didn't go to prison for murder, he got sent there for tax evasion. But the end result was the same -- he got sent away. Who can argue that wasn't justice done?
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Ashley Banfield interviewed Kato Kaelin yesterday and Kato said if he could give OJ any advice he said go live your life and stay completely away from the media and spotlight. Can he do it? I don't know do you think any of these fit the mold?


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Ashley Banfield interviewed Kato Kaelin yesterday and Kato said if he could give OJ any advice he said go live your life and stay completely away from the media and spotlight. Can he do it? I don't know do you think any of these fit the mold?


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They could have interviewed me and gotten the same advice. Not like Kato is telling us something new

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What happened in 1995 was jury nullification. He killed two people in the most heinous way. While the prosecution made mistakes, the DNA evidence alone should have convicted him beyond a shadow of a doubt. He should spend the rest of his life in prison and I don't really care how he gets there. Al Capone didn't go to prison for murder, he got sent there for tax evasion. But the end result was the same -- he got sent away. Who can argue that wasn't justice done?
I think the 33 year sentence in O.J.'s robbery conviction was an outrage. Of course, his acquittal in his murder trial was at least as big an outrage. The whole affair is a sad commentary on race relations in the US. Now that O.J. is out of jail, I hope that we can move on.

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if OJ was stupid enough to get away with murder and then still end up in jail for robbery years later who knows if he'll be able to stay out of trouble...seems like the life he once knew no longer exists and maybe a part of him needs the spotlight or maybe even a part of him is racked with guilt at committing those murders and is trying to punish himself...I have a feeling this isn't the last we'll be hearing from OJ...reality show next?
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He should spend the rest of his life in prison and I don't really care how he gets there.
As much as I disagree the 1995 outcome, the system is what it is. Which is why I can't go along with putting someone behind bars for an exaggerated amount of time just to satisfy my dissatisfaction with a particular verdict. That to me is just as much an injustice. If I'm going to be fair, I have to be fair across the board, not when something pleases or displeases me.
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No need to worry just like today I kept saying OJ shut up your going to sink yourself. He will be back in prison soon, you can change the color of a fabric but the fabric is set and he will always sink himself. He really isn't very bright.

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...I have a feeling this isn't the last we'll be hearing from OJ...reality show next?
There is already talk about a reality show for him as soon as he's released

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Lets not kid ourselves. It was more like Club Med for OJ than prison.

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As much as I disagree the 1995 outcome, the system is what it is. Which is why I can't go along with putting someone behind bars for an exaggerated amount of time just to satisfy my dissatisfaction with a particular verdict. That to me is just as much an injustice. If I'm going to be fair, I have to be fair across the board, not when something pleases or displeases me.

I accepted both verdicts the same.

I think the parole board had already decided to grant parole. OJ didn't seem too remorseful in his rambling statements and was justifying his actions. I think the parole board let him out so as not to be accused of unfair treatment. But, I think they meant what they said about OJ adhering to his parole conditions. I find it hard to believe OJ will not violate his parole at some point.
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...I kept saying OJ shut up...
Good advice for Kato, too.

Florida's a perfect landing spot to work on his golf game, perhaps he can obtain lifetime free health care for a celebrity endorsement of a certain hospital chain.

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Florida's a perfect landing spot to work on his golf game
I can say I've seen the way he plays golf and there's no way he can get better with that golf swing. You should say he can work on his short game. Like many celeb's and the rest of us, you either have "it" or you don't.

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I can say I've seen the way he plays golf and there's no way he can get better with that golf swing. You should say he can work on his short game. Like many celeb's and the rest of us, you either have "it" or you don't.
minor edit: ...you either get "it" or you don't.
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...I hope that we can move on.
O.J. Simpson's parole hearing is a ratings dud with 13.5 million viewers

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O.J. Simpson's parole hearing is a ratings dud with 13.5 million viewers

http://www.latimes.com/business/holl...721-story.html
Maybe there is hope that we really can move on at last. I have long had a case of O.J. fatigue and it appears that a lot of others have it too.

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