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So with the latest Orville, we can conclude that Seth was influenced by the Star Trek TOS episodes "The Ultimate Computer" and "Court Martial," and any one of a number of the TNG "solve the mystery" episodes. The production company obviously laid out a LOT of $$$$ for studio sets in the "period piece" holodeck mid-20th Century backlot street scenes, too. Nice to see that the comedy seems to be balancing out the drama very well now. A real tour-de-force for all the alien makeup artists lately! I still can't stop laughing at that giant alien sunflower creature.

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Also influenced by "The Outcast" (Star Trek: The Next Generation).

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The scrambled/encrypted 3D image of the killer was cool techno eye candy.

Nice shield upgrade wargames, and I assume first eyes on that Moclan ship design, unless I forgot an earlier one.

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Like TOS Catspaw for Halloween, a holiday episode for Valentines Day re relationships (again)

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Really liked this episode. I'm not sure I got the giant flower though. In the future do people ask giant plant people to fix their relationships?
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When are we going to see Lt. Unk (the alien who gave Bortus the virus-laden porn files) again?
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When are we going to see Lt. Unk (the alien who gave Bortus the virus-laden porn files) again?
I suspect he was left on some prison planet after that incident.

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I suspect he was left on some prison planet after that incident.

Either that, or maybe Bortus just tossed him out an airlock into space.
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Really liked this episode. I'm not sure I got the giant flower though. In the future do people ask giant plant people to fix their relationships?
Looks like the whole quick scene with the giant flower creature was designed just to get Bruce Willis into an episode! It just amazes me how many "A-list" actors agree to do voice cameos on Seth MacFarlane's shows:

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I don't know, I think the teacher boyfriend is a lot cooler than Captain Ed. They should switch roles.
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The Orville manages to address social issues without beating us over the head with wokeness. I am just such a huge fan so well written.

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I don't know, I think the teacher boyfriend is a lot cooler than Captain Ed. They should switch roles.

Seth hasn't really gotten much screen time this season, the focus has been on the supporting cast... and that's a good thing
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The Orville manages to address social issues without beating us over the head with wokeness. I am just such a huge fan so well written.
Well, you must have a much harder head than I do, as I find this year to be one redundant "wake up" story after another. Hoping they lighten it up ... but that is probably not in the cards, as his history is not one of lightening it up ...
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Well, you must have a much harder head than I do, as I find this year to be one redundant "wake up" story after another. Hoping they lighten it up ... but that is probably not in the cards, as his history is not one of lightening it up ...
Same here. Feels like a lot of "how do current social issues apply in the future" storylines. I'm fully expecting a space wall being built to keep alien life forms out soon.
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Same here. Feels like a lot of "how do current social issues apply in the future" storylines. I'm fully expecting a space wall being built to keep alien life forms out soon.
How would you build a space wall? Since space is infinite, it would take infinite resources. Would we make the aliens pay for it, I wonder?

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Easy. Just go with a Tholian Web. That's if you can find any Tholians.



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Easy. Just go with a Tholian Web. That's if you can find any Tholians.



Yeah, but once they finish, you are trapped inside forever ... kinda extreme!

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Yeah, but once they finish, you are trapped inside forever ... kinda extreme!

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Those Tholians are harsh but effective.


Hmm, wonder how one of those nets would have fared against a Borg cube? "First we're going to cut it off, and then we're going to kill it,"
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How would you build a space wall? Since space is infinite, it would take infinite resources. Would we make the aliens pay for it, I wonder?
Not just the Tholians in TOS. ST:TNG did it too, with an episode about a Dyson Sphere. That's essentially a structure built around an entire star by a super-advanced species in order to harness 100% of their sun's energy. So, you could kinda' sorta' think of that as a wall.

TNG also did an episode about a space elevator (aka orbital tether). Some really smart guys theorize that would be the first teensy-tiny baby step in building a Dyson Sphere someday in the far, far future. And an elevator is something we could probably do in a few more dozen years. It would sure make space travel a lot cheaper, easier, and safer.
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Not just the Tholians in TOS. ST:TNG did it too, with an episode about a Dyson Sphere. That's essentially a structure built around an entire star by a super-advanced species in order to harness 100% of their sun's energy. So, you could kinda' sorta' think of that as a wall.

TNG also did an episode about a space elevator (aka orbital tether). Some really smart guys theorize that would be the first teensy-tiny baby step in building a Dyson Sphere someday in the far, far future. And an elevator is something we could probably do in a few more dozen years. It would sure make space travel a lot cheaper, easier, and safer.
Dyson sphere is a nice theoretical construct, but in practice, completely impractical. You'd have to come up with so much raw material to create the sphere, that the only way to do it would be to go to other solar systems and hijack a few of their planets, assuming you could find them with the proper raw materials.

Space elevators, on the other hand, should be doable. The question is, at what point is it economically viable? When will we be doing enough "business" in orbit to actually use it's capabilities?

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Dyson sphere is a nice theoretical construct, but in practice, completely impractical. You'd have to come up with so much raw material to create the sphere, that the only way to do it would be to go to other solar systems and hijack a few of their planets, assuming you could find them with the proper raw materials.
True. What's more likely is what Arthur C. Clarke described in, I think, 3001. Space elevators, 4 of them around the equator, eventually became solid structures, the "spokes" on a wagon wheel. The "wheel" of which spanned the planet like a giant ring. Obviously, it would take hundreds of years to build.

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Space elevators, on the other hand, should be doable. The question is, at what point is it economically viable? When will we be doing enough "business" in orbit to actually use it's capabilities?
First we'd have to make some advances in material science to come up with the cable material. Probably some carbon nanotube thingie. Then, it's a matter of finding a high-carbon content asteroid, bringing it back and placing it into geosynchronous earth orbit. You'd use robots to mine & manufacture the cable out of that big rock in orbit and let the finished cable drop to its anchor point on earth. Get another big rock to stretch out in the other direction as a counterweight.

Really, really smart guy & author Kim Stanley Robinson describes building one on Mars in his novel Red Mars. In that world, the Martian colonists built one first. It was easier there, because the gravity is so much less than on earth. (It was also sabotaged at one point by "Mars Firsters" which was a pretty thrilling passage. Someday somebody is going to film an adaptation and it's going to be awesome. )

It would take, I dunno, maybe 10 years to get it up and running? Then, space travel becomes cheap & easy since you build the spacecraft in orbit, avoiding the earth's gravity well that makes it so dangerous & expensive to get stuff up there.

So I guess it's kind of chicken & egg. Building an elevator will be crazy expensive and time-consuming. But once it's built, economies of scale take over and the solar system opens up for us. We could really do it now if we put our best minds to it. It's just a series of engineering problems and we're really good at solving those. The real problem is financing it, and finding the political will to undertake such a gargantuan task.
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I don't know, I think the teacher boyfriend is a lot cooler than Captain Ed. They should switch roles.
I don't know they are both pathetic soy boys, but the teacher is even worse. That opening argument on the holodeck [ Fox lot] was cringe worthy. They should learn from Isaac.

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Does anyone else get a Seaquest vibe with some of the music? This show is an emotional transporter back to my teens, neat how nostalgia plays such a big part in how we feel about something.

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This season feels like one long social justice explanatory. Not a political comment, just an observation.
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(already said, but character development/relationship/social issue stuff has always been a big part of Trek, though you need to balance it with the Doomsday Machines, Tholian Web's, Yesterday's Enterprise and Best of Both Worlds now and then)

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I like where this season is going... but I liked the direction this series was taking during the first season better...
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Oh good, its not just me then... Totally get the Seaquest vibe!
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