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This is on my must watch, soooo can't wait for this.
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This is on my must watch, soooo can't wait for this.
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Henry Cavill reads the Witcher:






Writing the Witcher with Andrzej Sapkowski and Lauren Hissrich



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I'm glad to see that the author of the books, Andrzej Sapkowski, is not all uptight and overprotective of his work...he seems very laid back and willing to give the show the benefit of the doubt...unlike guys like Alan Moore who hates every adaptation of his work
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I have not read any of the books or played the video games, and basically know nothing about The Witcher going in. I've watched the first two episodes so far (Netflix screener) am utterly confounded by the show. Is it supposed to be a parody of Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones and so forth? Because the main character looks exactly like Legolas, while he literally wears a House Stark sigil on a necklace. There's a character introduced in the second episode who seems to be playing the Paul Bettany role from A Knight's Tale, including breaking the fourth wall to wink at the audience and joke about how he's there to deliver exposition. The tone of the show is all over the place, and the dialogue is filled with anachronistic modern slang. I don't really get what it's supposed to be.

My wife (who watched every single episode of Game of Thrones) rolled her eyes through this and said "Good luck" sarcastically when I told her I need to watch more episodes.

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I'm sick of all these endless teasers, trailers, reveals, promos, featurettes etc nonsense - whatever happened to just finding out there's something new and just bloody watching it for the first time without having had a million social media posts and blogs endlessly discussing and spoliing every minute detail beforehand !!!

I swear none of the classic and beloved movies/shows/books would ever have survived in the age of social media and attention spans measured in milliseconds while furiously checking your smartphone every 5s. And lets not even think about famous works of art, music in any decade before the 2000's etc etc.
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I swear none of the classic and beloved movies/shows/books would ever have survived in the age of social media and attention spans measured in milliseconds while furiously checking your smartphone every 5s. And lets not even think about famous works of art, music in any decade before the 2000's etc etc.
You're 100% wrong on that. There were lots of other books, shows, movies that were produced alongside those classics that didn't get revered through time because frankly, they weren't as good. Going back in time to the middle ages, even if people didn't have a ton of books to read they still had lots of other things to do like gather water, hunt, farm, etc.

Besides, you don't have to watch every teaser or trailer. I definitely don't. There are a ton of popular shows on streaming media and linear TV that I haven't watched due to time or lack of interest. There are other movies that I watched that I normally wouldn't have due to teasers/trailers/social media promotions, etc. Some pleasantly surprised me ("Mortal Engines," "Colossal," and "Six Underground"). Others made me wish for the two hours back ("Birdbox" and "Bright").

I'm going to check out "The Witcher" this weekend, and I hope I enjoy it.
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If I know a show or movie is something I'll check out regardless, I avoid trailers, teases, cast featurettes, reviews, etc., partly trying to have as little as possible spoiled. If it's something I'm on the fence about or I simply have no clue what it is, I'll watch a trailer to see if it's up my alley. Sometimes I can't avoid trailers, like TV ads during major sporting events. (For example, during Sunday's NFL games, I caught a Witcher trailer. No biggie, but I don't go out of my way.)

But mostly, when it comes to TV and stuff on the streamers, I make decisions based on what I read in these forums. I'm sure others have their own favorite ways (e.g., social media platforms, review sites, etc.) of learning about new content and making decisions about how to spend their time/money.

If anything, social media and online discussion forums have helped fuel the current "golden age" of so much good content. A lot of it simply wouldn't have been made without much less-expensive (than TV ads) internet ads, free word-of-mouth, and more accessible and affordable distribution methods. Sure, there's a lot of crap too. But there's always been crap. Bottom line, the entertainment industry certainly isn't hurting because of mobile devices and social media.
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I thought December was supposed to be a slow month for big TV releases...in the past December was when networks took a break...but in 2019 we have new seasons of The Expanse, Lost in Space, Witcher and The Mandalorian
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You're 100% wrong on that. There were lots of other books, shows, movies that were produced alongside those classics that didn't get revered through time because frankly, they weren't as good. Going back in time to the middle ages, even if people didn't have a ton of books to read they still had lots of other things to do like gather water, hunt, farm, etc.

Besides, you don't have to watch every teaser or trailer. I definitely don't. There are a ton of popular shows on streaming media and linear TV that I haven't watched due to time or lack of interest. There are other movies that I watched that I normally wouldn't have due to teasers/trailers/social media promotions, etc. Some pleasantly surprised me ("Mortal Engines," "Colossal," and "Six Underground"). Others made me wish for the two hours back ("Birdbox" and "Bright").

I'm going to check out "The Witcher" this weekend, and I hope I enjoy it.
I have a policy not to watch any teaser/trailer, since most give away the whole plot and have the best scenes, in addition to having scenes not in the actual movie/show.

I only watch them once I read that the plot hasn't been spoiled. e.g. Top Gun Maverick, both the trailers, is how it should be done - generate plenty of excitement but dont reveal anything.
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Starts this Friday!!! Sure hope it is good as the trailers look and that Netflix really puts the money behind this. If successful, the amount of material available can span many, many seasons (assuming the actors/actresses are willing to come back). Time to stock up on the snacks and get ready to forget about sunlight for a few days.

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Starts this Friday!!! Sure hope it is good as the trailers look and that Netflix really puts the money behind this. If successful, the amount of material available can span many, many seasons (assuming the actors/actresses are willing to come back). Time to stock up on the snacks and get ready to forget about sunlight for a few days.
I wrote some initial observations above. I've now watched all five episodes that Netflix provided to me, and I wrote a couple more follow-up comments but decided not to post them. All I'll say is that it would be in your best interest to temper your expectations.

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this should be decent but it's not going to be the next Game of Thrones...Amazon's Lord of the Rings prequel series and Wheel of Time have way more potential...I don't even think this series can best the video game version (mainly Witcher 3: Wild Hunt)
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I wrote some initial observations above. I've now watched all five episodes that Netflix provided to me, and I wrote a couple more follow-up comments but decided not to post them. All I'll say is that it would be in your best interest to temper your expectations.
How much of a fan are you of the Witcher video games? Would you say huge, barely played, etc.? I wonder if that is going to impact people's view based on how much or how little they are invested into the games/novels.

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How much of a fan are you of the Witcher video games? Would you say huge, barely played, etc.? I wonder if that is going to impact people's view based on how much or how little they are invested into the games/novels.
I have never read a Witcher book or played a Witcher video game. One of my biggest issues is that it feels like the show is made exclusively for fans already familiar with the source material. The show drops countless references to people or things (all named with nonsense gibberish words) as if they're terribly important, with no context for what they are.

As a newcomer, the plot of this show makes close to zero sense. Most of the major characters exist in separate storylines or time periods that never connect to one another. The story skips around in big time jumps as if trying to compress 12 epic novels into a handful of TV episodes. And the tone can be deadly serious in one scene and downright silly in the next.

I've probably already said too much. I found the show very dumb and cheesy. Honestly, it has more in common with Xena: Warrior Princess than Game of Thrones.
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I have never read a Witcher book or played a Witcher video game. One of my biggest issues is that it feels like the show is made exclusively for fans already familiar with the source material. The show drops countless references to people or things (all named with nonsense gibberish words) as if they're terribly important, with no context for what they are.

As a newcomer, the plot of this show makes close to zero sense. Most of the major characters exist in separate storylines or time periods that never connect to one another. The story skips around in big time jumps as if trying to compress 12 epic novels into a handful of TV episodes. And the tone can be deadly serious in one scene and downright silly in the next.

I've probably already said too much. I found the show very dumb and cheesy. Honestly, it has more in common with Xena: Warrior Princess than Game of Thrones.
I am not sure I understand the constant reference on these shows not being the next game of thrones. I don't think every fantasy show has to be the next game of thrones and instead can just be a fantasy show. Sure some writers out there have made references to the next game of thrones being sought by various channels and that everyone wants one but I think a show can be successful on its own without the comparison's to game of thrones or that it is as popular as GOT.

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I really hope the aspect ratio is 16:9. I absolutely hate things made exclusively for netflix that arent in 16:9. when 99% of its viewing is going to be done ona 16:9 tv it just a stupidly douchy and "artistic" move for no reason. Movies have a logical reason movies made for tv dont.

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I've probably already said too much. I found the show very dumb and cheesy. Honestly, it has more in common with Xena: Warrior Princess than Game of Thrones.
Excellent! Xeno and Hercules are so much better than GOT. GOT is softcore porn for the masses.
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I have never read a Witcher book or played a Witcher video game. One of my biggest issues is that it feels like the show is made exclusively for fans already familiar with the source material. The show drops countless references to people or things (all named with nonsense gibberish words) as if they're terribly important, with no context for what they are.
Awesome, that's exactly what I was looking for.
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I am not sure I understand the constant reference on these shows not being the next game of thrones. I don't think every fantasy show has to be the next game of thrones and instead can just be a fantasy show. Sure some writers out there have made references to the next game of thrones being sought by various channels and that everyone wants one but I think a show can be successful on its own without the comparison's to game of thrones or that it is as popular as GOT.
This show wouldn't exist if not for the success of Game of Thrones, and it begs for comparisons to Game of Thrones in nearly every scene. The costumes and sets look like GoT hand-me-downs. The main character even wears a House Stark sigil around his neck!

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I really hope the aspect ratio is 16:9. I absolutely hate things made exclusively for netflix that arent in 16:9. when 99% of its viewing is going to be done ona 16:9 tv it just a stupidly douchy and "artistic" move for no reason. Movies have a logical reason movies made for tv dont.
Like a lot of Netflix originals, the aspect ratio is 2.0:1.

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Excellent! Xeno and Hercules are so much better than GOT. GOT is softcore porn for the masses.
To each their own. The show's not even really fun enough to be enjoyed as camp, IMO.

If the "softcore porn" aspect of GoT is what you objected to, I'm afraid you'll find that there's a lot of that in this show. It has tons of gratuitous nudity and sex (including full-frontal hunchback nudity, as if that's something anyone ever wanted to see). The violence and gore are also fetishized to a cartoonish extent.

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Awesome, that's exactly what I was looking for.
I'll be interested to see how you guys feel after watching a few episodes. Maybe it will do more for you than it did for me? We'll see.

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I wrote some initial observations above. I've now watched all five episodes that Netflix provided to me, and I wrote a couple more follow-up comments but decided not to post them. All I'll say is that it would be in your best interest to temper your expectations.


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This show wouldn't exist if not for the success of Game of Thrones, and it begs for comparisons to Game of Thrones in nearly every scene. The costumes and sets look like GoT hand-me-downs. The main character even wears a House Stark sigil around his neck!



Like a lot of Netflix originals, the aspect ratio is 2.0:1.



To each their own. The show's not even really fun enough to be enjoyed as camp, IMO.

If the "softcore porn" aspect of GoT is what you objected to, I'm afraid you'll find that there's a lot of that in this show. It has tons of gratuitous nudity and sex (including full-frontal hunchback nudity, as if that's something anyone ever wanted to see). The violence and gore are also fetishized to a cartoonish extent.



I'll be interested to see how you guys feel after watching a few episodes. Maybe it will do more for you than it did for me? We'll see.
Well thats truly upsetting to here. I much rather of had some super campy thing like Xeno/Her
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This show wouldn't exist if not for the success of Game of Thrones, and it begs for comparisons to Game of Thrones in nearly every scene. The costumes and sets look like GoT hand-me-downs. The main character even wears a House Stark sigil around his neck!
exactly...the Witcher novels have been around since 1994...the first Witcher game was released in 2007...GoT has made fantasy popular and since TV is a copycat medium everyone is now racing to put out the next GoT...Witcher never would have been made without the success of the HBO megahit...the books are not what I would call mainstream fantasy (I've only played the 3 Witcher games on PC)...even the games are not hugely popular and are not easy to jump into and play (Witcher 3 is the most mainstream)

that being said I think fans of the books/games will appreciate this Netflix adaptation more...as a side note the developer of those games CD Projekt RED have become extremely popular due to the Witcher series of games and their next big game is coming out in April and is one of the most anticipated titles for 2020, Cyberpunk 2077
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It has moments where it tries for that. Geralt's "barker" is a total comic relief character. Even Geralt himself can be a sarcastic a$$ who's constantly rolling his eyes at other characters. And the dialogue is filled with jokey modern slang (Geralt blurts out stuff like "Well, f**k me!" when something bad happens). But those moments clash pretty badly with other scenes that are played super-seriously.

Again, this is all IMO. Maybe some of you will like it better, but the show really didn't work for me.

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How about this...Lord of the Rings paved the road for Game of Thrones
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Again, this is all IMO. Maybe some of you will like it better, but the show really didn't work for me.
how is Henry Cavill as Geralt?...a lot of fans of the books/games weren't sold on his casting when it was first announced...what about the action?...I hear it does have some impressive sword fighting sequences
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how is Henry Cavill as Geralt?...a lot of fans of the books/games weren't sold on his casting when it was first announced...
First off, Cavill looks completely ridiculous in his Legolas cosplay. That look was pretty iffy even for Orlando Bloom at age 24. Cavill is way too old to pull it off.

I don't have any reference for what the character is supposed to be like, but the TV show tells us that Witchers have no emotions. Basically, Cavill sleepwalks through the show, giving little to no performance at all. He growls all of his dialogue like Christian Bale doing the Batman voice. Occasionally, he'll make a really catty comment to make fun of someone. That's about all there is to it.

The only interesting character in the show is Queen Calanthe, and the show makes her storylines a confusing mess.

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There is one pretty impressive sword fight in an early episode, but most of the action scenes are just Geralt swinging his sword at a bunch of CGI crap. The monsters are cheeeeeeesy.

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First off, Cavill looks completely ridiculous in his Legolas cosplay. That look was pretty iffy even for Orlando Bloom at age 24. Cavill is way too old to pull it off.

I don't have any reference for what the character is supposed to be like, but the TV show tells us that Witchers have no emotions. Basically, Cavill sleepwalks through the show, giving little to no performance at all. He growls all of his dialogue like Christian Bale doing the Batman voice. Occasionally, he'll make a really catty comment to make fun of someone. That's about all there is to it.

The only interesting character in the show is Queen Calanthe, and the show makes her storylines a confusing mess.
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There is one pretty impressive sword fight in an early episode, but most of the action scenes are just Geralt swinging his sword at a bunch of CGI crap. The monsters are cheeeeeeesy.
Thanks for all your pre-release insights on the show. It sounds like a hot mess. I'll probably check out the first episode, but if it doesn't grab me, because I have so much backlog of critically acclaimed shows on NF, I don't see myself sticking around long to see if it gets better. Do you plan on watching the back half in spite of everything you've seen thus far?
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Thanks for all your pre-release insights on the show. It sounds like a hot mess. I'll probably check out the first episode, but if it doesn't grab me, because I have so much backlog of critically acclaimed shows on NF, I don't see myself sticking around long to see if it gets better. Do you plan on watching the back half in spite of everything you've seen thus far?
Honestly, I don't know. I usually feel compelled to see these things through, but I've got a lot to do before the holidays.

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This show wouldn't exist if not for the success of Game of Thrones, and it begs for comparisons to Game of Thrones in nearly every scene. The costumes and sets look like GoT hand-me-downs. The main character even wears a House Stark sigil around his neck!
The Witcher has always wore that sigil and it is exact replica of what he wore. He wore it LONG before GOT show ever came out. Of course he has it on, they are being faithful to the game/novels. If they didn't fans would criticize them, those that never played the game/read the novel will of course think it is similar but the Witcher was first.

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First off, Cavill looks completely ridiculous in his Legolas cosplay. That look was pretty iffy even for Orlando Bloom at age 24. Cavill is way too old to pull it off.

I don't have any reference for what the character is supposed to be like, but the TV show tells us that Witchers have no emotions. Basically, Cavill sleepwalks through the show, giving little to no performance at all. He growls all of his dialogue like Christian Bale doing the Batman voice. Occasionally, he'll make a really catty comment to make fun of someone. That's about all there is to it.

The only interesting character in the show is Queen Calanthe, and the show makes her storylines a confusing mess.

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There is one pretty impressive sword fight in an early episode, but most of the action scenes are just Geralt swinging his sword at a bunch of CGI crap. The monsters are cheeeeeeesy.
So, what you're saying is that this show is a masterpiece.

Can't wait to watch this and then finally dump Netflix until maybe next season. Maybe Netflix will have a stand-up special featuring Geralt.
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