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Yellowstone on Paramount Network

Anyone considering watching this? My wife is begging me to (she loves westerns) but I am mixed. Will watch the premier and see what happens.


Kevin Costner brings Western cred to ranch drama 'Yellowstone'
By Bill Keveney, USA Today - Jun. 19, 2018

LOS ANGELES – Kevin Costner is no stranger to the wild West – on screen and in real life – and he returnsto itin Paramount Network’s modern-day Western "Yellowstone" (Wednesday, 9 ET/PT).

The 10-episode drama, filmed in Montana and Utah, is the 63-year-old actor's first regular TV role, after an illustrious film career that includes Westerns "Dances with Wolves," "Wyatt Earp," "Open Range" and "Silverado," along with such memorable films as "The Untouchables," "Bull Durham," "JFK," and, more recently, "Hidden Figures."

Costner's star power helps draw attention to the first drama series for the rebranded cable network, a show that cut its ties to its producer, The Weinstein Company, after Harvey Weinstein was accused of sexual assault and harassment late last year.

In "Yellowstone," he plays John Dutton, the widowed patriarch of a long-running Montana ranching empire who’s trying to preserve Yellowstone Ranch against threats from the government, developers, a Native American reservation and his four dysfunctional adult children.

However, the rough-justice days of "Earp" and "Silverado" are over, Costner says of his contemporary rancher, who’s not just a cowboy but a "CEO."

“The hardball rules out there aren’t flying anymore,” he says, explaining that Dutton’s bold, unilateral actions will be judged differently than in the past. “One hundred years ago, (his actions) wouldn’t have been investigated. (But) we can’t operate in a world like that anymore, and that’s a problem for John.”

He likens Dutton's questionable behavior to that of 'Devil' Anse Hatfield, his character in History's 2012 miniseries "Hatfields & McCoys," who shoots a man in the back. (Costner insisted on the plot, against the objections of producers.)

"I had to put my foot down and say, 'This is good for my character,' because you understand, if you can look beyond that moment, why that may have happened," he says of that Emmy-winning portrayal.

Costner’s iconic Western heroes, as well as those played by Clint Eastwood, influenced creator and director Taylor Sheridan ("Wind River"), who credits Costner's Oscar-winning "Wolves" with reviving the genre.

“We were entering an era where the Western had sort of died … and 'Dances with Wolves' relaunched the genre, and reinvented it to a degree,” Sheridan says.

However, it was Costner’s strong moral presence that made the actor indispensable.

“Occasionally, you create a character and a world, and it can only be populated by one person,” Sheridan says. “There’s an internal strength in him that even when he’s doing something bad you believe he’s doing it for reasons that are right to him. He has an internal moral compass that may or may not be aligned with what is legal. He helps me make an audience question who they’re rooting for, or why they’re rooting for someone doing things they don’t agree with.”

When asked whether viewers should root for Dutton, Costner reframes the question.

“I need to root for myself. I need to understand why I’m doing things. I need to have my own level of doubt,” he says. “There are a lot of us that come off really certain and then we close the door behind us and go, ‘Did I do the right thing?’ ”

Costner has a reverence for Westerns, citing John Ford classics ("The Searchers," "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" and "Fort Apache") as favorites, along with George Stevens' 1953 classic "Shane."

Costner doesn't see a connection between "Yellowstone" and his own Westerns, other than in quality, but there’s a bond from filming in the great outdoors.

“You can do a courtroom drama or wake up and look at the Continental Divide. You can look at being the same valley that Lewis and Clark went down and close your eyes and understand that probably at one time you’re standing in the Garden of Eden. moved my trailer out of base camp … to this little stream. I’m really happy with that environment,” says Costner, who has a 160-acre Colorado ranch.

Although he grew up in Southern California, the actor-director says he’s always imagined living the outdoor life. He's an “OK” horseback rider, but has developed the skills needed to portray a rancher or a baseball player, as he did in "Bull Durham" and "For Love of the Game."

“If you can’t throw a ball, you can’t do a baseball movie. You can’t out-act something you can’t do when it comes to athleticism,” he says. “There’s a certain ballet that’s so obvious, and when you’re on a horse, it’s the same thing.”

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I'm going to give it a shot. I love Gil Birmingham, and have been really liking Taylor Sheridan's stuff.
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For those on the west coast with Spectrum cable, Paramount channel is 116, formerly Spike TV. I didn't even know it existed before this.
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Note that Taylor Sheridan is attached to this show. This is no small thing.
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Yes I am going to give it a shot.
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Definitely all in on this one.
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I'm going to give it a shot too.
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Available to purchase for streaming at Amazon in SD or HD.
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When i saw the early trailer I had a déjà vu moment; it felt familiar to another show, Blood & Oil with Don Johnson from few years ago. Reviews have been brutal but keeping my fingers crossed for tonight's episode.


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When i saw the early trailer I had a déjà vu moment; it felt familiar to another show, Blood & Oil with Don Johnson from few years ago. Reviews have been brutal but keeping my fingers crossed for tonight's episode.
I think a lot of people like to pan Kevin Costner because they still see his entire body of work in Waterworld, The Body Guard and The Postman.

In my case, I think he's been excellent in pretty much every Western genre production he's done, namely Open Range, Silverado and Dances with Wolves.
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I saw the premier episode and I’m buying in. Cardboard characters don’t scare me off.
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I only made it an hour. I just can't keep my eyes from closing anymore. I'll catch the rest tonight. Yeah definitely some cardboardness to the characters. I don't care about that if it's done well (see Billions). I'll give it enough episodes to find it's way.

I don't usually make technical comments, but I thought the sound mix was really grating at times. Music plus dialog plus environment sounds all seemingly at the same volume at the same time. Not pleasing.
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I only made it an hour. I just can't keep my eyes from closing anymore. I'll catch the rest tonight. Yeah definitely some cardboardness to the characters. I don't care about that if it's done well (see Billions). I'll give it enough episodes to find it's way.

I don't usually make technical comments, but I thought the sound mix was really grating at times. Music plus dialog plus environment sounds all seemingly at the same volume at the same time. Not pleasing.
Don't give up on it. I had been looking forward to this one because of all the great work the show's creator and director, Taylor Sheridan, has done as both a writer, Sicario et al. and a director, for example, Wind River, which I watched again last night. I loved the two hour premiere episode. The show has no heroes, only victims of each other's misdeeds. It is almost overwhelmingly sad but also very smart. In my estimation Yellowstone is must see TV.

As for the music, I thought the use of Ken Burns' familiar Civil War theme, Ashokan Farewell toward the end of the episode was very effectively done.
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Interesting premiere, it could have been better but it could have been way worse. Sure there were issues, but I think I will stick with this one. It was bloody then I thought it would be. Kevin does such a good job in his western/western-like roles, that is his wheel house for sure.

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Interesting premiere, it could have been better but it could have been way worse. Sure there were issues, but I think I will stick with this one. It was bloody then I thought it would be. Kevin does such a good job in his western/western-like roles, that is his wheel house for sure.
The show's Greek tragedy aspects were what drew me in. The new chief, the developer, and the rancher are all their own worst enemies but don't know it and do awful things as a result, which produce disastrous unintended consequences. I couldn't take my eyes off of it. I agree that Costner is wonderful as the rancher.

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Did anyone feel a bit of Longmire in this? Developer, Indian Res. etc..


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Absolutely! The first thing I thought of when I saw the Res and the Indian casino was how central both had been to the Longmire series. If Yellowstone is even close to as good I'll be more than satisfied. It is certainly off to a good start, though.
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Absolutely! The first thing I thought of when I saw the Res and the Indian casino was how central both had been to the Longmire series. If Yellowstone is even close to as good I'll be more than satisfied. It is certainly off to a good start, though.
Glad I am not the only one that saw the relationship. I have high expectations for this series with Costner leading the charge. I was hoping to see more of Danny Huston, but looking at IMDB credits him with only 1 episode. Too bad since I feel his presence would have been great in a bad guy (seedy developer) role.


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Its a common theme in every western state these days. Casinos brought a lot of money and everything that comes with it.
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Its a common theme in every western state these days. Casinos brought a lot of money and everything that comes with it.
Only in reference to Longmire would I agree. Damnation, Godless and The Son, which I would say are western themed shows do not centralize around casino. I will say though that those shows are all in a different time era where casinos didn't play a big part in society.


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Thoroughly enjoyed the 2-hour premiere. I enthusiastically look forward to seeing where this goes...
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I thought it was pretty decent. I couldn't place where I've seen the daughter(Kelly Reilly) , but later remembered she is in Amazon show ("Britannia") that had an excellent season 1. She also dropped a few F bombs, as well as a bit of nudity there which surprised me, as I wasn't sure what station this show was on when I watched it via DVR. I'll keep watching for now, as it held my interest so far.
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Kelly Reilly's British accent kept slipping out. That made me laugh.

I actually thought this thread would be filled with comments on the aspect ratio. I understand the letterboxing when a theatrical film is shown on TV, but something produced for television? I guess it's all for the feel of a widescreen western and I'm okay with that. But if they're going for the feel, then get the $%#@ bug out of there.
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I can't look at Kelly Reilly without thinking of the late Chrissy Amphlett from the Divinyls.
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Yeah, I like Reilly and think she is doing a terrific job as the rancher's hard-as-nails daughter. Her American accent, though, does tend to come and go. This just goes to show that for every Hugh Laurie or Damien Lewis who can play Americans utterly convincingly, there are a dozen other Brits who struggle with an American accent from time to time. Claire Foy had the same kind of problem with her performance as an American in Steven Soderbergh's Unsane. Otherwise, though, she was great. I'll cut good actors some slack it they are talented.

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Yeah, I like Reilly and think she is doing a terrific job as the rancher's hard-as-nails daughter. Her American accent, though, does tend to come and go. This just goes to show that for every Hugh Laurie or Damien Lewis who can play Americans utterly convincingly, there are a dozen other Brits who struggle with an American accent from time to time. Claire Foy had the same kind of problem with her performance as an American in Steven Soderbergh's Unsane. Otherwise, though, she was great. I'll cut good actors some slack it they are talented.
Poppy Montgomery and Jesse Spencer will have a little Aussie slip through now and again. Wasn't a problem on "House," but it makes me chuckle on "Chicago Fire." And I wonder if it's not that the director missed Reilly's slip, but that - of all the takes of a particular scene - the one with the tiny slip was the best.
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