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post #31 of 140 Old 06-23-2018, 11:58 PM
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Hmm, somehow the forum ate my post.

I think Game of Thrones deserves a top ranking, it's definitely broken new ground for a fantasy epic in terms of scale.

I'd also go with The Wire, again, groundbreaking in a lot of ways and the shifting focus between different groups in the city, the police, the drug dealers, the press, the schools, city hall, etc, really helps it rise above.

The original Law & Order deserves a spot, especially the episodes with the original cast.

The Expanse has been groundbreaking as modern sci-fi.

Star Trek DS9 really brought Trek into the modern serialized era, and showed the darker side of the Trek universe without completely losing the ideals and hope that Roddenberry envisioned.
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Oh, and how could I forget:

The West Wing - still the best political drama of all time, and Sorkin's masterpiece (though I also enjoyed The Newsroom and Studio 60, brief as the latter may have been).

Honorable mention to Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown for the non-fiction travelogue category.

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50s
Alfred Hitchcock Presents
The Red Skelton Show

60s
Bonanza
The Andy Griffith Show
The Dick Van Dyke Show
The Carol Burnett Show
The Twilight Zone – Interestingly, TTZ never made the top 25 in ratings

70s
The Mary Tyler Moore Show
All in the Family
M*A*S*H

80s
Cheers

90s
Seinfeld

2000 - 2018
Lost – the ending aside
24
Justified
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Mad Men
The Sopranos
Breaking Bad


Impossible to list a greatest ever.
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Hey, that's no UFO. It's an official Aliens sighting! Where ya' been Tommy-boy?
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Hey, that's no UFO. It's an official Aliens sighting! Where ya' been Tommy-boy?

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NYPD Blue. I'm watching this show again now. Great TV.
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Twilight Zone. A ground-breaking, great series, though having watched all episodes recently, some of it really doesn't hold up.

NYPD Blue, which I've recently watched all the way through on Audience. What I think is interesting is how TV has regressed since this was shown.

M*A*S*H. Comedies don't get the respect they deserve.

In my opinion part of what makes these shows great is how much they were a product of the time in which they aired. I was particularly struck by this when watching Twilight Zone, but it is true for all of these.

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Don't be ridickulos cousin Larry. You are missed.

And no, I'm not nominating Perfect Strangers.
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+1000 for the mention of Justified. Best show I've seen, in the modern era.
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Twilight Zone. A ground-breaking, great series, though having watched all episodes recently, some of it really doesn't hold up.

NYPD Blue, which I've recently watched all the way through on Audience. What I think is interesting is how TV has regressed since this was shown.

M*A*S*H. Comedies don't get the respect they deserve.

In my opinion part of what makes these shows great is how much they were a product of the time in which they aired. I was particularly struck by this when watching Twilight Zone, but it is true for all of these.

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Bear in mind that they were cranking out 36 episodes a year, unlike the 10 episodes most shows currently produce in an entire year. In that light, I think TZ is even more remarkable.

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I feel like there are so many categories for something like this...

For dramas, my list would have to include: Battlestar Galactica, Southland, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, The Wire, Band of Brothers and Deadwood.
For Scifi: Fringe, Black Mirror and The Expanse (And that's quickly climbing the charts overall).
For genre mashups: Veronica Mars and Chuck.
For comedies: Veep, South Park, Archer, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia and Family Guy (The Good Place and Atlanta could join this list).

For animation: Legend of Korra, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Gargoyles, Animaniacs and Justice League/Unlimited/Batman.

For great shows that lasted 2 seasons or less: Firefly, Journeyman, Dead Like Me, Wonderfalls, Carnivale, Better Off Ted and Trophy Wife.

And then there are the shows which were brilliant at times but were shaky other times for various reasons: Community, Lost, Dexter, Futurama, Homeland, Weeds and The X-Files to name a few. There are even more shows like 30 Rock, 12 Monkeys, Stranger Things and Narcos that I really like but I don't quite have the same love for them as I do for those I listed.

And yeah, I know my list doesn't include older shows. I'm not a nostalgic person so when I go back and rewatch shows I used to love that love isn't there anymore. =(
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I feel like there are so many categories for something like this...

For dramas, my list would have to include: Battlestar Galactica, Southland, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, The Wire, Band of Brothers and Deadwood.
For Scifi: Fringe, Black Mirror and The Expanse (And that's quickly climbing the charts overall).
For genre mashups: Veronica Mars and Chuck.
For comedies: Veep, South Park, Archer, It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia and Family Guy (The Good Place and Atlanta could join this list).

For animation: Legend of Korra, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Gargoyles, Animaniacs and Justice League/Unlimited/Batman.

For great shows that lasted 2 seasons or less: Firefly, Journeyman, Dead Like Me, Wonderfalls, Carnivale, Better Off Ted and Trophy Wife.

And then there are the shows which were brilliant at times but were shaky other times for various reasons: Community, Lost, Dexter, Futurama, Homeland, Weeds and The X-Files to name a few. There are even more shows like 30 Rock, 12 Monkeys, Stranger Things and Narcos that I really like but I don't quite have the same love for them as I do for those I listed.

And yeah, I know my list doesn't include older shows. I'm not a nostalgic person so when I go back and rewatch shows I used to love that love isn't there anymore. =(

I forgot all about Dead Like Me. We loved that one.
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I forgot all about Dead Like Me. We loved that one.
That was one of those where the first season was really great, and then it spiraled rapidly downhill. At least for me. Been a few of those.
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Lee Harvey Oswald being murdered on live TV.
And don't forget it was wall-to-wall coverage for a full four days...

So in that category, in no particular order:

Watergate hearings
OJ Simpson trial
9/11
Princess Di funeral
Trump administration to date

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That was one of those where the first season was really great, and then it spiraled rapidly downhill. At least for me. Been a few of those.
I think some ideas only have so much room to fill out, no matter who's writing it.
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The Fall Guy. Might not be the best show ever. But in the comfort food category it's tops. Everyone, sing with me...

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One Step Beyond (1959-61)
Also had the best music.






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Haven't seen Veronica Mars or Penny Dreadful. Really that good? I'll have to check them out.
The first two seasons of Veronica Mars at least. The third was still good but the format change hurt it.
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The Good Wife
I agree. Certainly one of the best especially on the networks...

Why 'The Good Wife' Might Be Network TV's Last Great Drama

At its best, The Good Wife was a showcase for the advantages of longer seasons, and the mixture of ongoing drama and procedural bedrock that makes many network shows tick. There was room to experiment with the form — something it never got as much credit for as Breaking Bad or True Detective — and to let conflicts play out at a pace approximating real life. The weight of nearly a hundred episodes gave the fifth season's "Hitting the Fan," in which the tensions inside Alicia's law firm finally explode, an accumulated power that cable's more concentrated seasons can't muster.

The last time a season longer than 13 episodes won the Emmy for Best Dramatic Series was 2006; the last time one was even nominated was 2011. The Good Wife was that final nominee — to date, and possibly forever.

Non network it would be hard not to go with Mad Men. The pilot grabs you into its world and you never leave.

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Sopranos
Deadwood
Rectify
Breaking Bad
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Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea . Combat starring Vic Morrow and Rick Jason.
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Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, Combat, WKRP in Cincinnati, Barney Miller.
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M*A*S*H I still stop and watch episodes when I stumble across them. Working in restaurants through the early 90's I watched it every night after work. I can still tell the plot lines within about 5 seconds of every episode when they come on. Favorite episodes was when they killed off Henry and then when Col. Potter came aboard.

Surprised no one said Arrested Development, any show that you catch new stuff on the second, and third viewings is pretty good. Henry Winkler jumping the shark was pretty funny. Lines like "Theirs a good chance I may have committed some light treason" and "Illusion Michael, a trick is something a whore does for money"

Firefly was great too, too short but at least we got Serenity and to see River finally get it on.

Walking Dead introduced me to binge watching (started 3 seasons behind), I mean its got a follow up show that just talks about what just happened.

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M*A*S*H I still stop and watch episodes when I stumble across them. Working in restaurants through the early 90's I watched it every night after work. I can still tell the plot lines within about 5 seconds of every episode when they come on. Favorite episodes was when they killed off Henry and then when Col. Potter came aboard.
You and my dad. He was a doctor who served as an Army Medical Corps surgeon in the European theater in WWII. He watched every episode of syndicated MASH re-runs, countless times, and chuckled his way through each one like it was the first. His all time favorite show. Must have been the "inside baseball" knowledge he never spoke of.

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I don't have to remember "Everglades" and "Our Miss Brooks" since I've seen both recently on TV.

For a long time I thought I had just imagined a show with a cop jumping over alligators in a fanboat (coolest vehicle EV-AH! to a four-year-old me) to solve crimes. But then, there it was, on Decades, a Saturday special "Forgotten Shows".

Unfortunately, the fanboat just wasn't enough to carry the show through its horrible writing and leaden acting. Even worse, in one of the episodes the bad guy sunk the fanboat in the first 10 minutes, leaving the fanboat-less cop to solve the crime using his wits...of which he (actually the writers) only had half of...

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Speaking of Firefly, how is it possible that Morena Baccarin just keeps getting better looking as she ages? She's got some fountain of youth hack going or something.
Hubba, hubba! When Morena played Inara, she had to be one of the most beautiful women in the world. She's older but still one of most beautiful women around. Her goth look on Gotham was outstanding.
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When you're born on third base, the trip to home plate is relatively short. See also: Diane Lane, Sela Ward, Sharon Stone, Helen Mirren, etc.
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I'll take Sela, you can have the rest for yourself.

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The West Wing
Fringe (season 5 is iffy)
ST:TNG
Buffy (although may possibly be fading since there are current events references that do not stand the passage of time)
Chuck (for all you Nerd Herders out there)
24 ((first 5 or so seasons)
X-Files (same as 24)
Supernatural (same again - I know, i know, but a personal favorite of mine)
Babylon 5 (although tough to watch now since the special effects make it hard to upgrade series to HD)

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