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hopefully HBO releases a small teaser for Game of Thrones final season before the Westworld finale this Sunday...even a small tease with no new footage or just dialogue would be great...GoT is the greatest show ever made and needs a long buildup/farewell to the final 6 episodes


-- and it got me thinking. GOT is right up there, but it may have been hindered by the last couple seasons when the books ran out. I'm still not sure I can argue against it. We have been inundated with fantastic TV for the last twenty or so years. My gut reaction is Band of Brothers at the very top, but man, there is a ton of contenders. What do you fine folks think?
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Game of Thrones
Breaking Bad
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other shows I can make a case for: Deadwood, The Wire, The Sopranos
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Honorable mention to The Sopranos and GoT.
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The Prisoner (the 1967 original with Patrick McGoohan, not the godawful AMC remake). It was the "WTF drama" of the 1960s. ITC made the series in the U.K. hoping to syndicate it worldwide as a follow-up to McGoohan's spy series. They thought they were gonna get some kind of "007 in a high-tech prison" premise; instead, McGoohan created a "Orwell meets Kafka and they drop acid" kind of scenario, unlike anything that came before it, and very influential on a lot of film and TV that followed. Worth checking out if you've never seen it; you'll freak when you realize it was made FIFTY years ago! CBS ran it as a summer "filler series," and they were so astounded by viewer response to it that they re-ran the 17 episode limited run series again the following year, something they had never done before.
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Penny Dreadful- in the Drama category.
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St. Elsewhere- Medical drama category.
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BSG and Firefly, for genre fans.
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Firefly, for genre fans.
Firefly was a great show but I think it only lasted 1 season with 13 episodes or so in total...that automatically disqualifies it in my books from consideration...a show should last at least 3 seasons before it can be in the discussion of best ever...
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Firefly was a great show but I think it only lasted 1 season with 13 episodes or so in total...that automatically disqualifies it in my books from consideration...a show should last at least 3 seasons before it can be in the discussion of best ever...
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-- and it got me thinking. GOT is right up there, but it may have been hindered by the last couple seasons when the books ran out. I'm still not sure I can argue against it. We have been inundated with fantastic TV for the last twenty or so years. My gut reaction is Band of Brothers at the very top, but man, there is a ton of contenders. What do you fine folks think?
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It's certainly on the list. Most of those eps still hold up well today. And what's really cray-cray is that Rod Serling wrote almost all the episodes, over a hundred I believe. And he was doing other work concurrently as well. Talk about prolific! He's like the Isaac Asimov of television.

And if I remember correctly, he didn't really want to go on-camera and do those lead-ins. He considered himself a writer, first & foremost. They had to talk him into it. But he was so perfect and iconic for that role, it's hard to imagine 'The Twilight Zone' without him doing them.
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It's certainly on the list. Most of those eps still hold up well today. And what's really cray-cray is that Rod Serling wrote almost all the episodes, over a hundred I believe. And he was doing other work concurrently as well. Talk about prolific! He's like the Isaac Asimov of television.

And if I remember correctly, he didn't really want to go on-camera and do those lead-ins. They had to talk him into it. But he was so perfect and iconic for that role, it's hard to imagine 'The Twilight Zone' without him doing them.
Serling was one of a kind. There will never be another. So many dark stories, but all carrying a core of humanity. As with all sci fi, he was able to take on issues that other shows could not even begin to address for fear of retaliation. Set in another world, Serling dared, and succeeded brilliantly.

Serling also employed Richard Matheson for quite a few episodes. I'm a big fan of his, as well.

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You have a point here. Very strong.
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Penny Dreadful- in the Drama category.
Hill Street Blues - Cop Show category.
St. Elsewhere- Medical drama category.
Outer Limits (1963-65) Early Sci-Fi category.
Haven't seen Veronica Mars or Penny Dreadful. Really that good? I'll have to check them out.
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Haven't seen Veronica Mars or Penny Dreadful. Really that good? I'll have to check them out.
Yep. Both very good. 'Penny Dreadful' was cancelled too soon; still had some life in it. So to speak. And Eva Green. Ooh la la!
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The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and 'Firefly' burned so very, very brightly, Troy.
Yes, it did. Unfortunately, it was on Fox, known for their inability to understand intelligent programming. I think the entire concept was fantastic, but Fox had no idea how to promote it. The name itself was so cryptic, nobody knew what the show was about until they "discovered" it, and by then it was too late. If they had named it similarly to "Star Trek", they could have had a hit on their hands.

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Yep. Both very good. 'Penny Dreadful' was cancelled too soon; still had some life in it. So to speak. And Eva Green. Ooh la la!
I do enjoy the Eva Green.
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Speaking of Firefly, how is it possible that Morena Baccarin just keeps getting better looking as she ages? She's got some fountain of youth hack going or something.
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I'm pretty sure we've done this before.
There are a lot of really great shows but the best all-time I will stick with my previous answer: The Wire.

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I agree about The Wire. However, I was just flipping around and came across some M.A.S.H. reruns. Maybe a bit dated but the writing was, and still is, above most of what is on television today.
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Yep. Both very good. 'Penny Dreadful' was cancelled too soon; still had some life in it. So to speak. And Eva Green. Ooh la la!
It also starred Timothy Dalton, Josh Hartnett and Sarah Greene among others.
They only made 27 episodes... but not a stinker in the lot!
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+1 while I enjoyed Firefly it really doesn’t hold up to the test of time imo great shows are ones that you can watch years after and enjoy. The space opera western seems a little hokey now.
The Wire while great along with the Sopranos the ride wading through was great but now that we know the outcome .... IMO by decade and genre are better than picking of all time the ones mentioned by others appeal to some but not everyone. GOT is a fictional period/mystical piece that plenty of people abhor plus the violence and the nudity although it doesn’t bother me but for some....
I agree with Twilight Zone and MASH but I will add Seinfeld because as a New Yorker they said the exact things that was on everyone’s mind for example whenever an apartment became available the first question is “ what’s the rent “.

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Not sure GoT would make my top 10, although it's clearly in the top 20. It got to where it is on a combo of high production values and popular appeal. I know few people who don't watch it, but even fewer who have ever rewatched an episode. It's more of a cultural phenomenon than a work of art - a lot of non-genre viewers got exposed to a genre show, which amplified its effect.

Twilight Zone, Firefly, Breaking Bad, BtVS, DS9, The Wire, Southland, White Collar, and if they go well The Expanse and Better Call Saul, in no particular order, make for a strong enough top 10 across the genres, IMHO. Picking one, BB has ticked so many boxes that it edges out The Wire.

Honorable mentions - where you have to exclude some bits, or the opposite, they didn't make enough: Dollhouse (we don't want one producer to make half the list, do we?), Dexter (minus the last season), True Detective (S01 only), Person of Interest (not sure about the last bits), Jericho (last season cut midway), TWD (early), Profit (old, canned), Top Gear (it's only technically "non-scripted").

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Jericho (last season cut midway)
Actually it wasn't. It was only renewed for the timited number of episodes to resolve things after the fan uproar. Peanuts anyone?

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