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Something for our Tifosi friends.






Some good engine sounds as well.
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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14...d-haas-f1-deal

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It looks like there is more to the Storey.
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Logo conflicts in F1.


The new Formula 1 logo and Futuro, a subsidiary of 3M that makes clothing intended primarily for athletes. Probably just a coincidence, but Futuro objected to F1 using it on their official clothing sold to fans.




F1 finally agreed not to use it on their clothing.


The F1 logo was designed by an expensive, big-time advertising agency. It was the winning logo of a reportedly 600 new designs. It also cost a lot of money for attorney fees to defend it. Team owners mostly preferred the original F1 logo and were unhappy about these big expenses which decreased their share of the profits.


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Whyte Bikes and Haas title sponsor, Rich Energy Energy drinks.




An obvious rip-off, no way it could be a coincidence. The courts agreed. Rich Energy has to stop using it.


It doesn't make any difference to Haas, because as of today, as reported here, Rich Energy has ceased their Haas sponsorship.
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IIRC Racefans had an article detailing the sanctioning fees for every track. I don't remember what you paid. I am pretty sure Monaco is 0. Bahrain, Baku and Abu Dhabi are pretty high.

I am not sure what COTA pays, but I was a little surprised that they get money from the Texas state government for holding the race.
Yeah, probably a trivial amount compared to what taxpayers pay for football and baseball stadiums. Though that's usually at the municipal and county level. Arlington TX footed $325 mil for Jerry World for example.
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I am not sure what COTA pays, but I was a little surprised that they get money from the Texas state government for holding the race.
It was a prerequisite for the GP to be awarded to COTA because it was required to help pay Bernie's fees.

However they have been denied the payment for the 2018 race due to not filing the proper paperwork: https://f1i.com/news/330784-cota-tak...ies-funds.html
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It looks like there is more to the Storey.
https://www.motorsportweek.com/joesaward/id/00534

Can you imagine how many F bombs are coming from Gunther Steiner?
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It was a prerequisite for the GP to be awarded to COTA because it was required to help pay Bernie's fees.

However they have been denied the payment for the 2018 race due to not filing the proper paperwork: https://f1i.com/news/330784-cota-tak...ies-funds.html
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Can you imagine how many F bombs are coming from Gunther Steiner?
"William Storey, an attention-seeking ZZ Top-lookalike figure" - LOL!
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Left side tires taking a beating. Grosjean facepalm and Ericsson an ocean away. Somebody must've got ahold of Chandhok. His over enunciation is almost gone. Kubica five seconds off the pace.
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What they haven’t told Gasley was RB fitted an ejection seat in his car. If he sucks out loud again, Horner will push the special red button added to his head set.
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What they haven’t told Gasley was RB fitted an ejection seat in his car. If he sucks out loud again, Horner will push the special red button added to his head set.
I was with you till you mentioned Horner hitting the button. As if Helmut would give THAT delicious job up to someone else.
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Rich Energy is such a joke, no-one has ever seen or tasted the drink, it's as if it doesn't exist.

Peter Windsor humiliated himself on his youtube channel, sucking up to "William Storey, an attention-seeking ZZ Top-lookalike figure".

I bet Williams are breathing a sigh of relief not to get their sponsorship last year. This weekend we are celebrating Sir Frank's 50-year tenure as a team principal. What an incredible achievement, which will surely never ever be beaten.

But onto much happier news. Lando Norris laughing in the press conference was hilarious! And it's the only press conference I've seen where ALL the drivers were laughing along - often there'd be at least one sat stone-faced (eg Nico Rosberg when the world's longest-ever question resulted in Vettel asking "sorry, can you repeat the question").



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I believe that is every race this year that Stroll and Losica have been outqualified by their team mate and haven't made it out of Q1.

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So now they are talking about refueling again during the races.

I would mandate large fuel tanks that would hold more than enough fuel for drivers to do the whole race and have left over fuel so that would end fuel flow restrictions and end drivers going slow to save fuel. The tanks would have to be full at the start of the race, so it would actually make the drivers go as fast as possible since the more fuel they burn the less the car will weigh and the faster they can go!!!

Also I would mandate drivers having to use all 3 tire choices so that they will have plenty of rubber and wont have to go slow to save tires to make one less pit stop. I want to see the race decided on the track with the drivers going as fast as possible, I dont want to see the race decided on pit stops.

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They did increase the fuel tank size. Some teams start with less than a full tank. Maybe mandating a full tank at the start might work.

While I like the idea of using all three compounds with two stops, it would probably mean that every team uses the same strategy.


One of the problems with drivers not pitting is the difficulty in passing on the track.
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While I like the idea of using all three compounds with two stops, it would probably mean that every team uses the same strategy.
They mostly use the same strategy anyway. The only real difference you see most races is top 10 do soft-hard and everybody else goes hard-soft because they can, and hard tires are better when the car is heavy with fuel. No sense wearing out your vulnerable softs with extra weight if you can avoid it.

A better idea would be to get rid of mandatory tire choices. You used to see teams try a two stop all-soft strategy vs a one-stop soft-hard strategy. Not any more.

I'm not sure if an extra stop is viable anyway, the crawling speed they call a pit lane speed limit has significantly increased total pit stop time.
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I'm not sure if an extra stop is viable anyway, the crawling speed they call a pit lane speed limit has significantly increased total pit stop time.
Yes; this is the reason that the teams prefer one-stops now. They have realised that:
  1. driving more slowly and conserving the tyres for one stop, is overall quicker than
  2. pushing hard to use the tyres and doing two stops.

So the whole field drives slowly for the whole race! Everyone agrees this isn't what we want so see!

The problems are, and always have been, the difficulty in following closely for any length of time. Interesting to note from a comment at the last week (can't remember which commentator said it) - this year's new simpler front wings have helped the drivers follow each other a bit, and in doing so moved the problem onto one of the other causes instead: their front tyres overheat like crazy when not in clean air. So that aero problem was successfully addressed, and it's no longer the reason that they don't follow closely.

Re-fuelling I really hate. I don't want to see a succession of sprints with all the overtaking done in pit stops. Forcing more pit stops with a rule change, I really hate. Again it means that the teams will do overtaking in the pits and not bother doing what they were forced to do in Austria. BOTH of these are the typical FIA method of ignoring the real problem and inventing stupid work-arounds which do not address the problem (and in fact, allow the core problem to "bed in").

Fortunately I think that enough people are against re-fuelling that it won't happen, not least for cost reasons. At a time when F1 is trying to reduce costs to help teams stay in business, it's incredibly expensive to cart those rigs around the world as well as the unnecessary extra danger. I hope that sanity prevails, Ross Brawn is allowed to produce his 2021 spec as they said they would let him, and we go from there.

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............The problems are, and always have been, the difficulty in following closely for any length of time. Interesting to note from a comment at the last week (can't remember which commentator said it) - this year's new simpler front wings have helped the drivers follow each other a bit, and in doing so moved the problem onto one of the other causes instead: their front tyres overheat like crazy when not in clean air. So that aero problem was successfully addressed, and it's no longer the reason that they don't follow closely.......

Whilst this is a factor I think that most of the drivers are simply not competent enough to overtake except under easy, clear circumstances.
The ban of testing means they lack experience in tough wheel to wheel racing in an F1 car and hence they don't like to take the risk of going for even a 50-50 overtake.
As you point out, their tyres heat up, the grip level changes and the aero effects are different than in clean air and they start to freak out.

Most of them simply lack the confidence to try except under ideal circumstances.
For every one modern F1 driver who can race wheel to wheel there are 5 or 6 who don't have a clue, including those who have won multiple grand prix and been "racing" for years.
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I attended the NYC Formula E race yesterday. Here are a few of my initial observations.
Action on the track - Yes, plenty of it compared to what we see in F1 today. Cars remain in closer contention than F1.
By the way, Buemi still seemed to control the complete race.

Track comment - too narrow
Viewing - This is the bad part. Extremely limited sight lines and only 2 grandstands which were not in optimal viewing areas.
Still find fan boost and attack mode too artificial. My feeling is just let them race.
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I attended the NYC Formula E race yesterday. Here are a few of my initial observations.
Action on the track - Yes, plenty of it compared to what we see in F1 today. Cars remain in closer contention than F1.
By the way, Buemi still seemed to control the complete race.

Track comment - too narrow
Viewing - This is the bad part. Extremely limited sight lines and only 2 grandstands which were not in optimal viewing areas.
Still find fan boost and attack mode too artificial. My feeling is just let them race.
Cool, thanks for that. I watched the race and parts of it were carnage I was looking for crowds, and genuinely couldn't see many people. The need for fences I understand, but to then cover up the waist to head-height parts of the fences with advertising means that no-one can ever stand behind those fences (even at a safe distance) and watch the action! It seems insane. A couple of tiny grandstands flashed past.

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Cool, thanks for that. I watched the race and parts of it were carnage I was looking for crowds, and genuinely couldn't see many people. The need for fences I understand, but to then cover up the waist to head-height parts of the fences with advertising means that no-one can ever stand behind those fences (even at a safe distance) and watch the action! It seems insane. A couple of tiny grandstands flashed past.
Correct. There were 2 tiny grandstands and even though we sat high up in the stands we could barely see the cars and very little of the track (less than 50 yards). Much of our viewing was on the large display screen.
In addition, the pre race hosts seemed like they were catering to a pre teen audience not true race fans. The pre race entertainment was a group of "break dancers."

Conclusion is that, if I continue to follow Formula E, it will be on TV as then at least you have a better view of the action.
By the way, it appeared to me that much of the "carnage" was due to the narrow track.

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