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All the CW shows cater to the gay community. You can't watch a single show of anything without being forced to see guys kiss each other or the same with girls.
Forced? Is someone holding you down in front of the television and prying open your eyes Ludovico-style? Should we call the police?
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In the first few episodes of this season I saw, Ruby Rose didn't really pull off brooding or sulking well either—just bland. Maybe she got it down later in the series.
If anything, Batwoman is a lot less brooding than Batman. She's not tortured by her identity or her past the way Bruce Wayne is, and seems pretty well adjusted overall.

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Forced? Is someone holding you down in front of the television and prying open your eyes Ludovico-style? Should we call the police?
No, that's why I stopped watching all those ***** shows. But if you enjoy that sort of thing all the power to you.
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If anything, Batwoman is a lot less brooding than Batman. She's not tortured by her identity or her past the way Bruce Wayne is, and seems pretty well adjusted overall.
Agreed. I hope they don't go for another brooding, sneering treatment and/or actor. Give us someone we can actually like and engage with rather than just watch them sulk and pout their way through episode after episode.

Since they are taking a major swing to course correct I hope they are bold enough to consider someone with a completely different look, style and tone. I wouldn't mind a little more fun and a little less somber Season 2.

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Ruby Rose's Batwoman Exit: The Story Behind Her Shocking Departure

Although the actress’ sudden, surprising departure from The CW superhero drama after just one season was framed on Tuesday as her choice and her choice alone, sources confirm to TVLine that the split was — at best — a mutual one

“It wasn’t 100-percent her decision,” concedes a source close to the show. “It was a breakup. She wasn’t happy working on the show, and did that make her fun to work with? No. So everyone decided it would be in the best interests of the show, and for all concerned, if they parted ways. It just wasn’t a good fit.”

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The funny thing is, had the timing been very different, Crisis on Infinite Earths could have provided a perfect story-motivated excuse to recast the character. Just say that the Kate Kane from another universe overwrote the one on Earth Prime.
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The funny thing is, had the timing been very different, Crisis on Infinite Earths could have provided a perfect story-motivated excuse to recast the character. Just say that the Kate Kane from another universe overwrote the one on Earth Prime.
It's not too late. If Supergirl can bring in all the Brainy doppelgangers through some bar for aliens, no reason another Batwoman couldn't have been roaming the streets of Earth Prime's Gotham for the past half season.
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The articles are saying they want to recast with an LGBTQ actor, so if they don't mind a relative nobody, maybe look no further than Natalie Liconti (IMDb profile), currently playing Sterling in CW's In the Dark.
She has a pleasing mystery about herself on In The Dark which might suit her here... certainly could do worse. I dropped Batwoman after a few episodes as it was well below my demographics and not even well done (in my opinion) for their target market.
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She has a pleasing mystery about herself on In The Dark which might suit her here... certainly could do worse. I dropped Batwoman after a few episodes as it was well below my demographics and not even well done (in my opinion) for their target market.
With the recent reveal regarding her character, I suspect she won't be appearing in season 3 of In the Dark one way or another ...
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The articles are saying they want to recast with an LGBTQ actor, so if they don't mind a relative nobody, maybe look no further than Natalie Liconti (IMDb profile), currently playing Sterling in CW's In the Dark.
I hope they think a little more broadly than let's get a Ruby Rose look-a-like that is a more accomplished actor. Shaking off the whole tone and visual of Season 1 with a uniquely different recast would have me more interested in a second look.

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I dropped the show halfway through episode 1. When it returns with a new lead I'll check it out again. And no I'm not anti-gay, in fact I was not aware of sexual identity until reading this thread yesterday.
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She’s cute as a button and has a cool style but a great actress she is not. I was going to give the show a viewing until I saw the costume in an ad for the show. That head looks huge under that mask and the red hair is just wrong. She looks like Black Manta in drag. Oh, hoonnneeyyy!!! I just can’t. Life goes on. How many Batmans are we on now?

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What the "fans" were actually unhappy with was the network allowing an out lesbian actress to star in a TV show, much less to exist at all without being stoned to death, which was one of the milder things she was threatened with on social media.
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The CW's Batwoman Cast and Crew Stop By DC Daily - Rachel Skarsten + Caroline Dries


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Anyway, how many TV series have survived recasting the lead? Doctor Who, I suppose, but identity changing is built into the concept there. Beyond that, it almost never works out.
TV Roles Recast: 25+ Times a Show Changed Actors Midstream

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Interesting list. Still, not many of those were the series lead, arguably only Superboy, John-Boy, and perhaps Darrin from Bewitched.

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Interesting list. Still, not many of those were the series lead, arguably only Superboy, John-Boy, and perhaps Darrin from Bewitched.
It will be interesting to see how it ends up. The superhero genre asks its fans to suspend certain beliefs and even logic at times to roll with a narrative. This will be a good test.

I wanted the show to work, but 10 minutes into the first episode it already seemed 'off' and it felt like the lead casting was wrong. So, will others that wanted the Batwoman show to work come back and give it another look? I guess they will have a built-in interest generator for the Season 2 premiere even if it is just curiosity as to how they re-work it. They better nail the first couple of episodes if they want it to catch a second life and thrive.

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Farrah Fawcett left “Charlie’s Angels” after season one. Kate Jackson can live in her own fantasy for the rest of her days. People tuned in for Farrah Fawcett. Cheryl Ladd replaced her and proved to be a better actress than any other angel to work on the show, though I still think Shelley Hack was robbed. Ladd also had the best pair of “assets” of any other actress to work on the show, though Jaclyn Smith was the most beautiful and Tanya Roberts had killer abs and amazing eyes. But, I digress. No, Ladd didn’t play the same character. She played her younger sister. No big difference, she was the blonde. A better actress will take Ruby’s place and the interest in the recasting will carry the show through season two. They may be forced to get a relative unknown for the part as a bigger actress might not want the baggage that comes with it.
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if they come up with a narrative and backstory where Detective Rosa Diaz is the new Batwoman, I am definitely ALL IN for Season 2!! JK on the Rosa Diaz part, but Stephanie Beatriz is an intriguing consideration.


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A look back at Batwoman star Ruby Rose's two-year journey in the Arrowverse

Batwoman star Ruby Rose's historic run in the Arrowverse came to a surprising end when she announced her departure from the superhero drama Tuesday, just two days after the season 1 finale.

"I have made the very difficult decision to not return to Batwoman next season," the Australian actor, who played the title role, said in a statement. "This was not a decision I made lightly as I have the utmost respect for the cast, crew and everyone involved with the show in both Vancouver and in Los Angeles."

Rose didn't give a reason for her departure, and WBTV declined to comment beyond the joint statement it released with the CW and Berlanti Productions: "Warner Bros. Television, The CW and Berlanti Productions thank Ruby for her contributions to the success of our first season and wish her all the best. The studio and network are firmly committed to Batwoman's second season and long-term future, and we — along with the show's talented creative team — look forward to sharing its new direction, including the casting of a new lead actress and member of the LGBTQ community, in the coming months."

Her exit surprised many people, especially given the historical significance of the show. As Batwoman/Kate Kane, Rose was leading the first superhero show headlined by an openly gay character. Below, EW looks back on her two-year journey through the Arrowverse, from her casting all the way up to the crossovers she appeared in, and finally her exit.
August 2018

The Orange Is the New Black alum was cast three months after Arrow star Stephen Amell revealed that the Scarlet Knight would be introduced in the annual Arrowverse crossover and one month after the CW announced it was developing a Batwoman solo series.

"I'm also an emotional wreck.. because this is a childhood dream," Rose wrote in an Instagram caption after the news broke. "This is something I would have died to have seen on TV when I was a young member of the LGBT community who never felt represented on tv and felt alone and different."

According to Batwoman showrunner and executive producer Caroline Dries, Rose possessed an ineffable quality they were looking for when she auditioned for the part. "As cliché as it sounds, [she had] the X-factor," Dries said. "It's just that she has that aura of cool, nonchalant, somewhat aloof, mixed with charming and thoughtful and funny, that it just kind of all made sense for her to be Kate."

Unfortunately, Rose, who identifies as a lesbian and gender-fluid, faced almost immediate backlash after being cast in the part, which led to her deleting her Twitter account and disabling comments on Instagram.

"Where on earth did 'Ruby is not a lesbian therefore she can't be batwoman' come from — has to be the funniest most ridiculous thing I've ever read," Rose reportedly tweeted before her account went dark. "I came out at 12? And have for the past 5 years had to deal with 'she's too gay' how do y'all flip it like that? I didn't change. I wish we would all support each other and our journeys."

October 2018

The CW unveiled a first look at Rose in costume in Batwoman, and production on the 2018 crossover "Elseworlds" began in Vancouver, Canada. The three-hour event would mark Rose's debut in the cape and cowl before she (hopefully) spun off onto her own series. When EW visited the set of the crossover that month, Rose opened up about what playing Batwoman meant to her.

"The fact that she is an outwardly gay superhero, which is something growing up I would've loved to have seen on my TV, was a big deciding factor as to why I was so passionate about the role," Rose said. "This [role] just meant a lot more to me because I could relate in so many ways and, at the same time, felt like this was a job that would give me a purpose every day coming into work beyond just getting to live my dream, which is acting, and would be far more rewarding than anything I've done in the past."

Her Arrowverse peers were also excited to have her join their world. "I don't think there could be a better person for it than Ruby," Amell said during that same set visit. "We shot a scene with her last night, and her exchange with Grant [Gustin] was just, 'Oh, okay, this is Batwoman.' I think people are really going to appreciate it when [they see it]."

December 2018

The "Elseworlds" crossover aired on the CW, with Rose popping up in all three parts. The Arrow hour, which was part 2, featured her most prominent appearance because she interacted with Oliver Queen (Amell), The Flash's Barry Allen (Gustin), and Supergirl's Kara Danvers (Melissa Benoist) and was part of a major action sequence set during a prison break at Arkham Asylum.

January 2019

In the wake of the crossover, the CW gave Batwoman a pilot pickup order.

May 2019

The network officially ordered Batwoman to series, with Rose in the lead role. She would be joined by Rachel Skarsten (Alice), Camrus Johnson (Luke Fox), Dougray Scott (Jacob Kane), Nicole Kang (Mary Hamilton), Meagan Tandy (Sophie Moore), and Elizabeth Anweis (Catherine Hamilton-Kane).

June 2019

During an interview for EW's annual Pride issue, Rose shared what she took away from the backlash to her casting almost a year earlier.

"I came to the States to get into acting, and I couldn't even get a manager or agent, so I made a short film based on my life because I had the time to do it," she said. "I put it online, just to say, 'This is something I wanted to do,' and it went viral, which I didn't ever expect. And then I got an opportunity to audition for Orange Is the New Black because they wanted to have a gender-neutral character. But I've also gotten backlash. And that's when you realize you have to keep up with the terminology. When I got cast as a lesbian in Batwoman, I didn't know that being a gender-fluid woman meant that I couldn't be a lesbian because I'm not a woman — not considered lesbian enough."

She continued: "My initial response was 'Pfft!' And then I was like, 'Wait. Let me just figure this one out. How do I right this wrong, because if someone out there is upset by this, I need to know why and how to fix it.' That's when I sort of said, 'I'm a woman that identifies as a woman. I'm not trans. But if being gender-fluid means that I can't identify as a woman at any point, then I guess I can't be that.' Maybe I need to make up another term, one that doesn't step on any toes. One where I can be fluid in my gender, but also a lesbian, because otherwise I'm not sure what I am."

July 2019

Production began on the first season of Batwoman. "It has a completely different feel than any other job that I've done before," Rose told EW at the time. "I wake up and I feel a lot of gratitude and excitement for what's going to come in the day ahead."

Playing Kate Kane also gave her an opportunity to flex new acting muscles. "I feel like up until now I haven't really been given the opportunity to play a character that has these dynamics of such severe trauma and such heartbreak and betrayal and loss. She's heavy. She has a really heavy heart for a lot of very valid reasons," Rose said. "I actually said to Caroline — it only hit me during the pilot — 'I am so thankful that you are the first person to believe in me as more than an action star, or even in the mean girl rock star [in] Pitch Perfect.' No one up until now has really been like, 'Yeah, you know what, you can play a real person with all these things going on and dealing with more than just being kickass.'"

September 2019

In an Instagram post, Rose revealed that she had emergency surgery months earlier because she injured herself while performing stunts on Batwoman.

"I broke my neck, basically, on the show," she told Jimmy Fallon on The Tonight Show. "I did a stunt for a very extended amount of time — for like seven hours — and we thought I broke a rib or just fractured a rib, and that was six to 12 weeks of healing," she continued. "So then I had six to 12 weeks of chronic pain and just kept assuming that was what it was until I kept seeing the doctors and they're like, 'It's your neck, it's your neck. It just radiates into these places because of nerve endings.'"

October 2019

Batwoman premiered Oct. 6. Two weeks later, the CW gave it a full season order, bumping the episode count to 22.

December 2019-January 2020:

Rose joined the rest of the Arrowverse's heroes in the highly anticipated crossover "Crisis on Infinite Earths" and played a significant role in all five episodes.

May 2020

Two days after Batwoman's (early) season 1 finale, Rose announced that she was leaving the show. Neither Rose nor WBTV or the CW gave a reason for her departure, though the network and studio promised they would cast another member of the LGBTQ community in the part.

Batwoman is expected to return in January on the CW.

https://ew.com/tv/ruby-rose-batwoman-exit-timeline/

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Two days after Batwoman's (early) season 1 finale, Rose announced that she was leaving the show. Neither Rose nor WBTV or the CW gave a reason for her departure, though the network and studio promised they would cast another member of the LGBTQ community in the part.

Batwoman is expected to return in January on the CW.

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I am still perplexed as to why this wasn't recast after the pilot was shot. 10 minutes into the pilot episode this show seemed off and mostly due to the lead actor.

It is not that uncommon for recasts to happen after a pilot episode. The Neighborhood on CBS replaced two of the leads with Max Greenfeld and Beth Behrs after the pilot was shot and a first look trailer had been released with the two original actors for their upfront presentations.

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The writers/producers need to watch Supergirl. Those little chunks of Kryptonite that they had was certainly not what remains of it. There is a boatload of it on the Supergirl series. Sigh!

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I noticed that too but I’m guessing that the shard that showed up in BW was the only piece of left from Krypton (besides the one that Kara gave to Kate) and the ones in Supergirl was manufactured by Lena.
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Ruby Rose Speaks Out on Batwoman Exit: 'It Wasn't an Easy Decision'

Former Batwoman star Ruby Rose has taken to social media to thank fans for their support…and to hint at why she and the show parted ways in the first place...

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Former Batwoman star Ruby Rose has taken to social media to thank fans for their support…and to hint at why she and the show parted ways in the first place...

https://tvline.com/2020/05/27/ruby-r...lained-recast/
I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision knowing that she'll probably never work in Hollywood again beyond a small guest role on a minor streaming series. Thankfully for her there's still Canadian and Australian TV.
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I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision knowing that she'll probably never work in Hollywood again beyond a small guest role on a minor streaming series. Thankfully for her there's still Canadian and Australian TV.
I suspect part of the reason she wasn’t happy was because of the time commitment of doing a series that was preventing her from taking movie roles. She didn’t play any major characters but she was in a couple of big name movies. She probably liked the schedule of working on a movie for a couple of months and then move on to the next thing versus doing a series for a lot longer time day in, day out.
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I suspect part of the reason she wasn’t happy was because of the time commitment of doing a series that was preventing her from taking movie roles. She didn’t play any major characters but she was in a couple of big name movies. She probably liked the schedule of working on a movie for a couple of months and then move on to the next thing versus doing a series for a lot longer time day in, day out.
By most accounts, she was miserable on the set and the crew hated her. Just not a good working environment, not to mention all the hate she'd been attracting on social media. Considering that most of these Arrowverse shows run for seven or eight seasons, she was looking ahead to a long stretch of unhappiness in front of her. It's hard to blame her for bailing when she saw an opportunity.

I'm sure she'll find work again, though probably not in anything with as much visibility.

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I suspect part of the reason she wasn’t happy was because of the time commitment of doing a series that was preventing her from taking movie roles. She didn’t play any major characters but she was in a couple of big name movies. She probably liked the schedule of working on a movie for a couple of months and then move on to the next thing versus doing a series for a lot longer time day in, day out.
She had to know what the time commitment was going to be. Read any article from anyone leading one of these CW Arrowverse shows and everyone of them talks about what a time commitment it is to be the lead in one of them. Pick up the phone and talk to others before saying yes and then acting surprised that leading a television series is a serious time commitment. This sounds like PR spin to try and recover some dignity and and future acting work.

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She had to know what the time commitment was going to be. Read any article from anyone leading one of these CW Arrowverse shows and everyone of them talks about what a time commitment it is to be the lead in one of them. Pick up the phone and talk to others before saying yes and then acting surprised that leading a television series is a serious time commitment. This sounds like PR spin to try and recover some dignity and and future acting work.
Being told that it's a time commitment and actually living that experience day in and out are two different things. Scoring a series lead must look like the biggest break in the world to an up-and-coming actor, but the reality of it is not very glamorous. If she was unhappy and nobody wanted her there, why would she stay?

It's funny seeing the same people call her a terrible actor and also lambaste her for leaving the show. Which is it? Do you want her to stay or want the role recast?

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Being told that it's a time commitment and actually living that experience day in and out are two different things. Scoring a series lead must look like the biggest break in the world to an up-and-coming actor, but the reality of it is not very glamorous. If she was unhappy and nobody wanted her there, why would she stay?

It's funny seeing the same people call her a terrible actor and also lambaste her for leaving the show. Which is it? Do you want her to stay or want the role recast?
I think that is why you should do some due diligence and talk to others already leading a similar series. I can't recall anyone in the thread lambasting her for leaving the show. It sounds like she was let go, so that is not a fair criticism.

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