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what is Kraft doing going to one of those seedy massage parlors and soliciting??...that's what the average Joe does...Kraft could have had some 5 star girl come to his home or hotel...Goodell should suspend him for 5 games for violating the personal conduct policy
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That's what I was telling someone else! With the kind of money he has he could get a high-class call-girl delivered anywhere and no one would be the wiser. But instead he had to go down there and get caught. That's what happens when you're cheap!
Correct. He could have went to Eros and spent the money. I believe there is also a site to get in touch with porn stars. There are more than a couple of those down here.

But literally the best thing to do is head out of country. He could have went to Brazil and worn little Kraft to the nub and no one would have been the wiser.

I wonder if he was a frequent visitor to this "spa" or if someone told him about it.
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I wonder if he was a frequent visitor to this "spa" or if someone told him about it.
during a 6 month undercover operation he was caught on camera during two different visits...so it wasn't just a one time thing...he probably was a frequent visitor prior to the sting operation
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Correct. He could have went to Eros and spent the money. I believe there is also a site to get in touch with porn stars. There are more than a couple of those down here.

But literally the best thing to do is head out of country. He could have went to Brazil and worn little Kraft to the nub and no one would have been the wiser.

I wonder if he was a frequent visitor to this "spa" or if someone told him about it.
Kind of hard to be discrete when you arrive in town on a big-ass Red, White, and Blue 777 with 6 Lombardis on the tail. :-)
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If you read the articles and the location of the 'strip mall' (how ironic), it doesn't take a genius to figure out who told him about that place.
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during a 6 month undercover operation he was caught on camera during two different visits...so it wasn't just a one time thing...he probably was a frequent visitor prior to the sting operation
Well, with the new laws he should have been more careful.

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Kind of hard to be discrete when you arrive in town on a big-ass Red, White, and Blue 777 with 6 Lombardis on the tail. :-)
LOL, that may be true, but he is hardly the only rich person up there.

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If you read the articles and the location of the 'strip mall' (how ironic), it doesn't take a genius to figure out who told him about that place.
I looked up the location, but I didn't see any dead give away unless you are talking about Trump. I am no fan of Trump, but I doubt he knew about that one. There are probably half dozen "spas" between his place and Jupiter.

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Not to be political but its too bad this is even an issue. The puritanical ethos in this country is smothering. It shouldn't be a crime.
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Old man Kraft was set up by the rest of the AFC East who are tired of losing. It was of course spearheaded by the Dolphins. Lol
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I looked up the location, but I didn't see any dead give away unless you are talking about Trump. I am no fan of Trump, but I doubt he knew about that one. There are probably half dozen "spas" between his place and Jupiter.
They are close friends who spend a lot of time with each other, they dine together, they travel together. I can't imagine Bob Kraft saying to his driver, "This looks like a nice place, pull over and let's take a look," but if you say so...
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Not to be political but its too bad this is even an issue. The puritanical ethos in this country is smothering. It shouldn't be a crime.
I don't have an issue of whatever goes on between two 'consensual' people, that is their business. However, because this is a "Human Trafficking" issue (which is a big problem down here in FL) one party was more or less forced into doing something that they may have not wanted to do, and I have an issue with that.

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I don't have an issue of whatever goes on between two 'consensual' people, that is their business. However, because this is a "Human Trafficking" issue (which is a big problem down here in FL) one party was more or less forced into doing something that they may have not wanted to do, and I have an issue with that.
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Ya human trafficking makes this an entirely different thing. I just hope he had no idea about that aspect. Otherwise, make it legal and protect the women.
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Not to be political but its too bad this is even an issue. The puritanical ethos in this country is smothering. It shouldn't be a crime.
The crime appears to be that it is part of a larger sex trafficking operation with girls being transported against their will fron China to work as sex workers. Not a good thing.
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Not to be political but its too bad this is even an issue. The puritanical ethos in this country is smothering. It shouldn't be a crime.
Except that these women are virtual slaves. Now, if they were doing it of their own free will (and reaping the financial benefits thereof) then I would agree.

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The 'sting' was about trafficking, but that isn't what Kraft was charged with. These are two different issues.
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The 'sting' was about trafficking, but that isn't what Kraft was charged with. These are two different issues.
True, but I don’t think they can overlook crimes on the books during the sting. I don’t agree with the laws but that doesn’t make them less applicable especially to someone who is wealthy and well known. Blind justice and all that jazz. Personally, I don’t think much of it other than it shows a certain above the law appearance by someone who should know better. No one cares or says anything about the unknowns on the list, but they are charged.
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This article in Sports Illustrated by Michael Rosenberg sums it up pretty well I think...
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But I'm more concerned how Cardo's taking the news?

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I don't have an issue of whatever goes on between two 'consensual' people, that is their business. However, because this is a "Human Trafficking" issue (which is a big problem down here in FL) one party was more or less forced into doing something that they may have not wanted to do, and I have an issue with that.
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Ya human trafficking makes this an entirely different thing. I just hope he had no idea about that aspect. Otherwise, make it legal and protect the women.
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The crime appears to be that it is part of a larger sex trafficking operation with girls being transported against their will fron China to work as sex workers. Not a good thing.
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Except that these women are virtual slaves. Now, if they were doing it of their own free will (and reaping the financial benefits thereof) then I would agree.
I missed this angle on it. I simply saw a headline on ESPN and thought that this shouldn't be news. Of course, if there is sex trafficking and sex slaves that is a completely different story. Sorry, I didn't do my due diligence before posting my opinion. I agree with all of you.

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It should be noted that before we get all self righteous with guys, a female friend pointed out nail salons. It may not be sex, but how many of those women are doing the work against their will?

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Strange I say. Super Rich guy is in Jupiter (I know that place - client lives there) and goes on a NK Run instead of having something delivered in a very discreet manner. WTF!
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It should be noted that before we get all self righteous with guys, a female friend pointed out nail salons. It may not be sex, but how many of those women are doing the work against their will?
You're not really trying to equate working in a nail salon to forced prostitution, are you?
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This article in Sports Illustrated by Michael Rosenberg sums it up pretty well I think...
"And Robert Kraft allegedly played a role in that. The question for Kraft, and for the NFL: What role, exactly?"

That sums nothing up. Except if you're summing up modern media jumping on story lines before they're fleshed out. Jesus.

The guy's wife died of cancer years ago, now he wants a "Happy Ending" with no strings attached and now he's maybe a sex trafficker?



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Uhm.. let's get back on topic. Football.

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"And Robert Kraft allegedly played a role in that. The question for Kraft, and for the NFL: What role, exactly?"

That sums nothing up. Except if you're summing up modern media jumping on story lines before they're fleshed out. Jesus.

The guy's wife died of cancer years ago, now he wants a "Happy Ending" with no strings attached and now he's maybe a sex trafficker?
Last comment, as the quote was addressed to me and the link I provided above... Rosenberg was not accusing Kraft of being a sex trafficker. But it's certainly in the realm of possibility he knew who these women were, and why & how they were there. It would be pretty naive of him if he didn't, no? Should "modern media" just ignore the story? So far, nobody is accusing him of anything except what the police have accused him of: patronizing this "business".
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Last comment, as the quote was addressed to me and the link I provided above... Rosenberg was not accusing Kraft of being a sex trafficker. But it's certainly in the realm of possibility he knew who these women were, and why & how they were there. It would be pretty naive of him if he didn't, no? Should "modern media" just ignore the story? So far, nobody is accusing him of anything except what the police have accused him of: patronizing this "business".
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