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Kudos to the U.K.'s Sky TV, the producer of (and HBO's partner in) this, one of the very best docu-dramas, ever. Their attention to detail in this project, and the cast, were absolutely superb! R.I.P. to those who suffered and had their lives cut short by this tragic example of man's arrogant stupidity in his quest to "harness the atom," as a quaint 1950s Walt Disney science documentary put it.

Some folks may claim otherwise, but this disaster truly played a large part in the end of the Soviet Union government, which actually had been "circling the drain" for three decades since the invasion of Hungary in 1956. And consider this: prior to the Chernobyl accident, there had been other "serious" incidents involving Nuclear technology in the former U.S.S.R. and in the world's oceans, most of the details of which have remained secret. One of these appear to involve a device that unexpectedly "went critical" at a nuke weapons facility and resulted in something like 30 villages being erased from official maps.

As Russian comic Yakov Smirnoff used to joke: "what's the difference between the Lada (Soviet automobile) and the Soviet Union?...at least the Lada moves forward sometimes."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster
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Just a frightening series. I remember the alarms, especially in Europe, when the Chernobyl reactor blew up. Even with all of the news coverage, the old Soviet Union kept a tight lid on the truth. Last night's finale laid out the human and design failures in brutal detail and Jarrod Harris' tic-toc recitation of what happened was brilliant. I'm going to watch the finale again just for that if nothing else. One of the most terrible scenes was when just prior to the explosion, the control rods were going up and down in their lid like piano keys. HBO and the production team are to be commended for taking a risk in portraying a devastating and crucial event that happened almost 33 years ago. Emmy consideration is warranted.
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HBO should do a "Downwinders" mini series.

I'm pretty sure that affected many families.

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A thing mentioned in the clearing of the radioactive graphite on the roof. As the remote machine dropped on the roof died right away, they opted to use humans instead. But they could only be exposed for 90 seconds because of the intensity of the radiation. Their solution was to send 3800 people up the stairs to clear that roof of radioactive debris, by hand and shovel. That is hard to believe. A truly great series.
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A thing mentioned in the clearing of the radioactive graphite on the roof. As the remote machine dropped on the roof died right away, they opted to use humans instead. But they could only be exposed for 90 seconds because of the intensity of the radiation. Their solution was to send 3800 people up the stairs to clear that roof of radioactive debris, by hand and shovel. That is hard to believe. A truly great series.
That's a testament to the Russian people, who may have initially been deceived by the government blowing smoke up their backsides, but quickly realized the serious situation they were in and opted to sacrifice to "get the job done." The head of the miners was an excellent example, but so many, many other workers did what needed to be done at great personal risk.
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I think HBO could have done 10 episodes and still made a riveting portrait .. however, condensing it into 5 still packed a lot of entertainment and informational value into the show .. it's certainly one of the best, if not the best, Docudrama I've ever watched .. and I'm a fan of that genre if done right .. the added commentary on HBO GO after the end credits was also a very nice touch ..

I can't say enough good things about this mini-series .. a sad piece of History, yet must watch TV ..
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I think HBO could have done 10 episodes and still made a riveting portrait .. however, condensing it into 5 still packed a lot of entertainment and informational value into the show .. it's certainly one of the best, if not the best, Docudrama I've ever watched .. and I'm a fan of that genre if done right .. the added commentary on HBO GO after the end credits was also a very nice touch ..

I can't say enough good things about this mini-series .. a sad piece of History, yet must watch TV ..
***Couldn't agree more. Fabulous series in which the writer(s) and director(s) created an incredible presentation of the events, people, causes and ramifications of the Chernobyl accident with excellent pace. The creators also had to consider whether to use native language with sub-titles or go with English and a Russian accent. Some folks might not think it wasn't as "authentic" by choosing the latter but I think it worked out fine.

Truly a memorable series and one for the ages. Let's hope it reaps the commercial awards it so richly deserves.
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Just a frightening series. I remember the alarms, especially in Europe, when the Chernobyl reactor blew up. Even with all of the news coverage, the old Soviet Union kept a tight lid on the truth.
Coincidentally, this week I started reading "The Library Book" about the devastating fire that destroyed or badly damaged over 1 million books at the Los Angeles Central Library (worst library fire in US history). It happened the same week as Chernobyl. In the book the author highlights the fact that Chernobyl had dominated the US news reports so much, the library fire hardly got any coverage outside of Los Angeles, except of course in the Soviet Union.
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Kind of an interesting dichotomy here. I don't doubt this author is an expert on the subject matter, and I don't doubt her criticisms are completely founded. I still think it's a great miniseries that people should watch.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...terribly-wrong
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Kind of an interesting dichotomy here. I don't doubt this author is an expert on the subject matter, and I don't doubt her criticisms are completely founded. I still think it's a great miniseries that people should watch.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-c...terribly-wrong

Yes, it's quite a miniseries.


Each episode showed, the line, "Inspired by real events", and I usually take that to mean that this is fiction in the setting of real events with the potential of some small and not-so-small liberties from the truth.



The Chernobyl podcasts on the YouTube HBO channel were quite interesting and in them the author had stated several places where the show deviated from actual events and also where the show was rather accurate but not what we in America would expect.
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***Couldn't agree more. Fabulous series in which the writer(s) and director(s) created an incredible presentation of the events, people, causes and ramifications of the Chernobyl accident with excellent pace. The creators also had to consider whether to use native language with sub-titles or go with English and a Russian accent. Some folks might not think it wasn't as "authentic" by choosing the latter but I think it worked out fine.

Truly a memorable series and one for the ages. Let's hope it reaps the commercial awards it so richly deserves.
I think this show was mainly viewed in english speaking nations such as the US and Great Britain. I believe the producers of the show debated whether to use English or Russian. They were worried about using Russian and having the characters sound like Boris and Natasha. I believe that was detailed in the followup to Episode 1 on HBO GO.

this documentary should definitely win some Emmy awards. Jarrod Harris' speech in the finale detailing what happened at the plant was brilliant.

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I think this show was mainly viewed in english speaking nations such as the US and Great Britain. I believe the producers of the show debated whether to use English or Russian. They were worried about using Russian and having the characters sound like Boris and Natasha. I believe that was detailed in the followup to Episode 1 on HBO GO.

this documentary should definitely win some Emmy awards. Jarrod Harris' speech in the finale detailing what happened at the plant was brilliant.
***But I liked Boris and Natasha. Especially Natasha.
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A review by the NY Times:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/03/a...nobyl-hbo.html

and the 'chief designer' of Pripyat:

https://www.atlasobscura.com/article...efore-disaster
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***Horse#hit review by the N.Y. Times, IMHO. Yes, Hollywood does fictionalize a lot of things. But what is totally lost in this review is the impact Chernobyl made on people’s lives and the superb acting throughout the series. And, I learned a great deal about the accident that I never knew before that IS factual.

A holier than thou review right down to the core.
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If this show doesn't win some awards then something is seriously wrong in Hollywood. Outstanding series with a great conclusion. Very powerful show.
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Russians aren't very happy about this mini-series, and now here's the result:

https://bgr.com/2019/06/05/chernobyl...cia-spy-story/

Perhaps we'll learn that a suspicious American moose and squirrel were seen in the vicinity of the Chernobyl Station just before the accident.
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Russians aren't very happy about this mini-series, and now here's the result:

https://bgr.com/2019/06/05/chernobyl...cia-spy-story/

Perhaps we'll learn that a suspicious American moose and squirrel were seen in the vicinity of the Chernobyl Station just before the accident.
Autocrats are very fond of real "fake news". Where would they be without it?
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Russians aren't very happy about this mini-series, and now here's the result:

https://bgr.com/2019/06/05/chernobyl...cia-spy-story/

Perhaps we'll learn that a suspicious American moose and squirrel were seen in the vicinity of the Chernobyl Station just before the accident.
I can't find the link, but I read a piece yesterday on how the mini-series has sparked growing interest in Chernobyl tourism ..

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I can't find the link, but I read a piece yesterday on how the mini-series has sparked growing interest in Chernobyl tourism ..

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***That's interesting that folks are "flocking" to Chernobyl. With all that radioactivity - - I don't think this would be on my "bucket list." But if the Russians say it's safe - - then....
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Didn't "Grand Tour" take a spin through there last year?
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***That's interesting that folks are "flocking" to Chernobyl. With all that radioactivity - - I don't think this would be on my "bucket list." But if the Russians say it's safe - - then....
It's been on my radar for a while as a cool spot to visit. Only a small area is hot, they wouldn't take you there, and it's all time-weighted anyway. The biggest risk is disturbing dust and dirt and breathing or ingesting it.
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That's a testament to the Russian people, who may have initially been deceived by the government blowing smoke up their backsides, but quickly realized the serious situation they were in and opted to sacrifice to "get the job done." The head of the miners was an excellent example, but so many, many other workers did what needed to be done at great personal risk.
Well, there's a different sense of volunteerism in a country like Russia.

Here, someone asks for volunteers and a bunch of people show up. In Russia, they say "you volunteer, you volunteer, you volunteer...."

In some cases, dangerous or not, it's still a better option than hanging out in a bread line where you don't actually get any bread.
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Yeah, I'd go, maybe I could find a nice chunk of graphite that was missed in the cleanup, to bring back.
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Yeah, I'd go, maybe I could find a nice chunk of graphite that was missed in the cleanup, to bring back.
That would put some pep in your pencil!
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Well, I would be wearing some lead underwear for that trip, thats for sure.
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