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Luther / BBC / Idris Elba

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Series 5 (four episodes) premieres on BBC America June 2. Idris Elba plays DCI (Detective Chief Inspector) John Luther in London's Serious Crime Unit. By all accounts he is a brilliant detective that is incredibly dedicated to his job. Too dedicated many would argue. He is never able to decouple his private life from his work and every case takes over his existence until he is able to solve it and move on to the next case so he never really has what could be considered a productive private life.

I have enjoyed this series very much as a fan of smart detective/crime dramas, and Idris Elba is magnetic in the role. Definitely happy a new series is on the way.




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I have watched the previous series and looking forward to this one.

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I saw the ads during Killing Eve and then discovered all the previous seasons are on Prime. So I'll go ahead and record season 5 and watch whenever I can catch up. I'm generally not a fan of detective-type shows, but I've heard this Idris Elba guy is pretty good, and I liked the BBC's Sherlock series, though I'm sure Luther is very different.
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, but I've heard this Idris Elba guy is pretty good, and I liked the BBC's Sherlock series, though I'm sure Luther is very different.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about Idris Elba, but he friggin rocks! Been a huge fan since his portrayal of Stringer Bell on The Wire. I had no idea he was British until I finished The Wire (watched it via Netflix physical DVDs).

I love Sherlock. It might be my favorite show of all time because I love seeing super smart people do stuff. Luther is kinda in the same vein as that, but it has a much more different vibe. I think you'll like it for sure.
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I can't tell if you're being sarcastic about Idris Elba, but he friggin rocks!
It was intended as an understatement. He's huge! Like Benedict Cumberbatch doing the last season of Sherlock, it's amazing that Elba is still doing this TV show. He's kind of in demand now (another understatement ).
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It was intended as an understatement. He's huge! Like Benedict Cumberbatch doing the last season of Sherlock, it's amazing that Elba is still doing this TV show. He's kind of in demand now (another understatement ).
Gotcha. I figured as much but didn't want to assume. Yeah, as much as the US has been instrumental in the "golden age of television" over the last 20 years, I think the BBC has made a huge contribution as well. So many great shows with Sherlock and Luther being top tier IMO.
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S5E1 hit the ground running and didn't let you catch your breath at all. No recaps or "catch you up" type scenes. Just BAM! How about some Russian roulette to start things off? Not enough? Okay, later we'll throw in a ticking time bomb chained to a CI's head. Still not enough? How about a creepy masked killer on a double decker bus?

Oh, and guess who pops in at the last second as forces are converging on Luther? You'll just have to watch it...

I love this show. Smart, suspenseful, gritty, just great stuff.
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I'm glad to hear the new season is off to a great start. Though I had planned on taking my time watching the four previous seasons on Prime while recording season 5 to watch at a later date, with so much else on my viewing plate, I'm now halfway through the 16 total episodes from seasons 1-4. I thought being a crime-drama procedural, each episode would stand on its own, but this show was made to be binged even before bingeing was really a thing. I actually don't go out of my way for crime-drama procedurals unless there's something particularly unique or special about them, like the Sherlock series or AMC's The Killing. So it's saying something that I've been watching multiple episodes of this each week the past couple of weeks. If it wasn't for my temporary HBO subscription and Good Omens on Prime, I'd probably be just about caught up.
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Episode 2 continued at a slightly less frantic pace, but they are packing a lot into each episode.

One thing grating on me a bit: So these mob guys have come close to killing Luther three times now. This episode, something like five men are firing handguns into his attic as he is escaping through some secret escape hatch he has up there. That, coupled with the Russian roulette and explosive in the first episode, and they are clearly trying to kill him. So it baffles me that soon after he is having a casual conversation with their ring leader. In the interest of self-preservation I would think he should planning some sort of SWAT hit on this crew or something (you know, for attempted murder). I don't know. It just feels strange to have his life left up to fate, luck, whatever, so often by these guys. Does he value his own life anymore?

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Caught the first Ep last night and they're at it again with the breakneck pace, intrigue and fine acting. And then the surprise at the end. Loving it all over again.

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Well, they've certainly set up an explosive finale. My goodness episode 3 was stressful. Just great TV here. Given engagement here, definitely an underrated show.
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While I'm liking it and have always thought Alice was a great character, there seems to have been a lot that happened between seasons and also I prefer Luther as a detective more than a character out of Dashiell Hammett book. He doesn't quite fit that character.
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Well that was a break-neck pace, explosive, eventful season. This story-line could have easily stretched into 2-3 more episodes, but you never know what's happening behind the scenes with scheduling and budgets and all that, especially with someone like Elba involved. It's similar to why we ended up waiting years for new Sherlock seasons to come out.

Elba teased a movie as a way to wrap things up a bit more, and that would be welcome news for sure. I'm not finished with these characters, and I hope they aren't finished with us.

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Not sure I thought it was that good. The plot device of Luther lying to Alice when he had no reason to (or no reason to think that the lie wouldn't be uncovered anyway) was fairly poor. They've really pushed the character to be very shady rather than the dedicated police detective he started out as.
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Not sure I thought it was that good. The plot device of Luther lying to Alice when he had no reason to (or no reason to think that the lie wouldn't be uncovered anyway) was fairly poor. They've really pushed the character to be very shady rather than the dedicated police detective he started out as.
That's a good point on him lying to her. Perhaps having lost Benny and all the other stressful issues piled on he just did something careless. Rare for him but a sign of the cracks starting to show through. Similarly, the decline of his integrity has certainly been driven by extenuating circumstances and is maybe indicative of the unreasonable things people do out of infatuation or love. Not a happy ending by any stretch, but I never really saw him as that stereotypical heroic figure. He was always willing to "play in the gray" if the outcome was just (in his mind).
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The Luther series has been quality TV from the first season til this one. Yes, it has it's flaws like any series, but the acting, writing and overall production values are just top notch. And this past season moved along at a frenetic pace that kept me intrigued til the very end. And, that ending certainly left you wondering what Luther's future might be, given the dire circumstances he finds himself in.

I'm all in for a movie to see what fate has in store for him.

If a movie is not in the cards, I'll be watching for a new season of the perfect role for Idris Elba - DCI Luther !
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I like him on Wire; surprise he is still doing TV shows considering the number of major movies he was in, such as Alien, Pacific Rim, Avenger series, Molly's Game, etc.

Will check it out after Dark Season 2.
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I like him on Wire; surprise he is still doing TV shows considering the number of major movies he was in, such as Alien, Pacific Rim, Avenger series, Molly's Game, etc.

Will check it out after Dark Season 2.
Yeah, he's been doing Luther since 2010 and became a big star for other reasons during that process. My first exposure to him was in The Wire, which I watched via Netflix DVDs mailed to my apartment back in 2008/9. I watched that entire series never knowing he was British. I can't remember how I found out (honestly, maybe it was seeing Luther for the first time), but my mind exploded. His voice never once shifted in that show. Same with Dominic West as McNulty (or McNutty at Bubbles would say). I didn't know he was British either. However, I am in the process of rewatching The Wire (it holds up very well), and there are very quick, rare moments where you hear that accent come out with him but never with Elba. His voice work, from an authenticity POV, on that show is insane.
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Well, I liked the show during seasons 1-4 enough that I re-watched all the episodes on Prime. Finally finished Season 5 yesterday. Really enjoyed Alice Morgan’s return. I think there were some plot lines in Season 5 that stretched the imagination, but overall I enjoyed having four new episodes to watch. The ending was pretty grim, though.
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