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Below is NBC's HD schedule for the Olympics.
Note that the opening ceremonies will be shown on
August 13 in HD, starting at 9pm, and not subject to a
24-hour delay. The opening ceremonies on the regular NBC
channel start at 8pm on August 13.

The closing ceremonies will be broadcast in HDTV on August 30,
the day after the Games end, but the HD broadcast concludes
at noon. The GOP convention opens on August 30. (Though NBC
stations are not carrying the convention in HDTV -- but HDNet is --
presumably the digital stations will offer an SD version during their
scaled back convention coverage that night. And I guess NBC's
stations need a little break between the Olympics and the
convention.)

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NBC ATHENS 2004 OLYMPIC GAMES

HDTV Schedule
- Subject to Change -


FRIDAY, AUGUST 13
9:00 p.m. - 1 a.m. (ET/PT)
Opening Ceremony

SATURDAY, AUGUST 14 - DAY 1
24 Hours
Opening Ceremony

SUNDAY, AUGUST 15 - DAY 2
24 Hours
Gymnastics, Swimming, Diving

MONDAY, AUGUST 16 - DAY 3
24 Hours
Gymnastics, Swimming

TUESDAY, AUGUST 17 - DAY 4
24 Hours
Gymnastics, Swimming, Diving

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 18 - DAY 5
24 Hours
Gymnastics, Swimming

THURSDAY, AUGUST 19 - DAY 6
24 Hours
Gymnastics, Swimming

FRIDAY, AUGUST 20 - DAY 7
24 Hours
Gymnastics, Swimming

SATURDAY, AUGUST 21 - DAY 8
24 Hours
Track & Field, Swimming, Diving

SUNDAY, AUGUST 22 - DAY 9
24 Hours
Track & Field, Swimming, Diving

MONDAY, AUGUST 23 - DAY 10
24 Hours
Track & Field, Swimming, Diving

TUESDAY, AUGUST 24 - DAY 11
24 Hours
Track & Field, Gymnastics

WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25 - DAY 12
24 Hours
Track & Field, Diving, Gymnastics

THURSDAY, AUGUST 26 - DAY 13
24 Hours
Track & Field, Basketball, Diving

FRIDAY, AUGUST 27 - DAY 14
24 Hours
Track & Field, Basketball, Diving

SATURDAY, AUGUST 28 - DAY 15
24 Hours
Track & Field, Basketball, Diving

SUNDAY, AUGUST 29 - DAY 16
24 Hours
Soccer, Track & Field, Basketball, Diving

MONDAY, August 30
Ends at Noon
Closing Ceremony
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thanks for the info.

The list of the events that they are showing has some huge holes in it,
like soccer, boxing, basketball, and others. Are they going to mix those in or whats listed is all they'll show?

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thanks for the info.

The list of the events that they are showing has some huge holes in it,
like soccer, boxing, and others. Are they going to mix those in or as you
understand it, whats listed is all they'll show?
Nope no mixing in those,these are the events that will be available in HD
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Any info when the individual segment broadcasts begin by day before the loop starts for the remainder of the 24 hours?
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So you can watch a 4 hour loop of the opening ceremonies in HD up to six times from 1 a.m. Saturday 8/14 to 1 a.m. Sunday 8/15?

Oh, joy.
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I don't get it. Is this the schedule for the NBC local stations on their OTA digital channel?

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There is only one HD feed for everyone. But since the SD feed is digital, which one were you talking about?
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Note that the opening ceremonies will be shown on August 13 in HD, starting at 9pm, and not subject to a 24-hour delay. The opening ceremonies on the regular NBC channel start at 8pm on August 13.
Does this mean that the HD broadcast will be one hour delayed from the live broadcast on the SD channel? Or that the SD channel will have an extra hour of coverage not shown on the HD channel?
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Does this mean that the HD broadcast will be one hour delayed from the live broadcast on the SD channel? Or that the SD channel will have an extra hour of coverage not shown on the HD channel?
It's not even live on the SD channel. Athens is about 7 hours ahead of East coast.
The actual opening ceremony, Athens Friday evening, is Friday East coast morning/noon. But you see it in East coast prime time, delayed. West coast will also see it delayed, 3 hours later, in west cost prime time.
HD is one hour delayed from SD. Confusing enough?
You will see the opening again 10 times the next day in HD.
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Confusing enough?
Not yet. Apparently, there is only one HD feed (no East and West), so Opening Ceremonies in HD will start at 6 PM Pacific Time, 2 hours before the SD version. 7 PM Mountain and 8 PM Central.
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Not yet. Apparently, there is only one HD feed (no East and West), so Opening Ceremonies in HD will start at 6 PM Pacific Time, 2 hours before the SD version. 7 PM Mountain and 8 PM Central.
Thank you for adding more confusion, TitanTV.com says both SD and HD opening ceremony on NBC starts at 8 pm west coast time !
I'll be ready at 6 pm just in case!
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Those of us near the Canadian border can watch the opening ceremonies (in SD) live on the CBC. The CBC schedule for Friday has coverage of the ceremonies beginning at 1:00 pm EDT.

I have seen enough to know I have seen too much. (A League of Their Own)
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Let me add to the confusion. If you have cable or OTA on the West Coast, you will probably see the HD delayed to 8 or 9PM. If you have satellite, you will see it at 6PM, two hours BEFORE the SD broadcast. So much for no ratings competition....

At least they get to see upfront how much the ratings are affected by HD.
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I just can't believe KNBC would preempt their local programming (especially news) to run the 24-hour HD Olympics loop. Or are they going to relegate the local schedule to a different digital subchannel?

Or are they going to run limited Olympics on the analog channel, and the 24-hour HD loop on the digital channel?

I'm just trying to figure out where to find this supposed 24-hour HD Olympics loop.

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Although limited in scope, perhaps the coverage for the selected HD events will be deeper.
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Let me add to the confusion. If you have cable or OTA on the West Coast, you will probably see the HD delayed to 8 or 9PM. If you have satellite, you will see it at 6PM, two hours BEFORE the SD broadcast. So much for no ratings competition....
Assuming the west coast affiliate has a method of time shifting HD. If the affiliate has no method of time shifting the HD, they will have to simply pass through the single NBC HD feed beginning at 6 PM.

Or, they can join it in progress at 8 PM. But that would be truly awful.

I suppose a third possibility is to have zilch between 6 PM and 10 PM PT and wait for the HD loop of the opening ceremonies to begin repeating at 10 PM PT. Perhaps this is what some will do just to "increase analog ratings."

Having the option to view HD Olympics via satellite could be a real advantage over OTA/Cable if affiliates decide to time shift or interrupt NBC's HD Olympic programming. (So much for affiliate "exclusivity.")
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Originally NBC did have medal round soccer on their HDTV schedule - what happened?

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Bob,

What I read was the men's gold medal game only would be in HD. And the list above does show soccer for 8/29.

Remember, the HD showing is delayed 24 hours from the analog showing.
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Since CBC is the only network that regularly does live coverage of the Olympics wherever they are held, ultimately CBC HDTV coverage of the Olympics would be the best.

Their SDTV LIVE coverage of the opening ceremonies of this Olympics is at 10am PDT/ 1pm EDT. Their daily LIVE coverage begins each day at 4am PDT / 7am EDT.

CBC is gearing up to for some regular HDTV broadcasting later this year of early next (that is when their first HDTV truck will be ready). So, hopefully by the next winter Olympics CBC will be able to broadcast in HDTV.

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Bob,

What I read was the men's gold medal game only would be in HD. And the list above does show soccer for 8/29.

Remember, the HD showing is delayed 24 hours from the analog showing.
I missed that ... all I saw has basketball, basketball, basketball ... personally even though I am not a big soccer fan, I would like to see less basketball and more soccer!

However, I am please to see what we are getting, which is 8 hours a day, which is double what we got for the last Winter Olympics ... just wish it wasn't delayed so long. Oh, well there are the next Winter games!

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Do I remember correctly having read somewhere that the daily 8 hour HD loops will begin at 4AM, Noon and 8PM Eastern time?

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That appears to be correct. I just checked NBC's web site at http://www.nbcolympics.com and went to the TV Listings section. When I selected for "NBC HDTV" only, it presented two days worth of schedule.

Saturday is all repeats of the opening ceremony. Sunday shows an eight-hour schedule of stuff starting at 1 a.m. Pacific Time.

One caution -- the listings aren't localized by default, and there's nothing on the page to indicate what time zone the schedule shows. There's a button to "localize the site." Click there to get local times, plus (it appears) local olympics-related features.

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Do I remember correctly having read somewhere that the daily 8 hour HD loops will begin at 4AM, Noon and 8PM Eastern time?
This is correct according to the Excel spreadsheet I just took a look at.

So the first actual competition events in HD (after Opening Ceremony is looped in HD) will begin at 4AM ET/3 AM CT/2AM MT/1 AM PT on Sunday 8/15, proceeding for 8 hours. Then the loop repeats beginning at 12PM ET/11AM CT/10AM MT/9AM PT, and again at 8PM ET/7PM CT/6PM MT/5PM PT.

And so on, and so on, and so on...
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Opening Ceremony in HD, according to the Excel file:

Eastern Time Zone: 8PM Review of Salt Lake in HD; 9PM Opening Ceremony

Central Time Zone: 7PM Review of Salt Lake in HD; 8PM Opening Ceremony

Mountain Time Zone: NO review of Salt Lake in HD; 7PM Opening Ceremony

Pacific Time Zone: 8PM Review of Salt Lake in HD; 9PM Opening Ceremony

So, at least according to the spreadsheet, Pacific Time zone affiliates do NOT get the same HD feed as ET/CT/MT affiliates (for the Opening Ceremony only-- this changes once actual competition begins, and all time zones get the same feed at that point).

In other words, the PT HD feed of the Opening Ceremony is delayed 3 hours from the ET feed, as one would expect with normal prime time programming. So the HD version will be one hour behind the analog version, like it will be for ET viewers.

But that is NOT true of Mountain Time or Central Time zones. In Mountain Time, they will get to see the HD version starting one hour before the analog version; in Central Time, the HD version will begin at the same time as the analog version.

At 1AM PT, West Coast HD feed replays the one hour Salt Lake review.

At 5AM ET/4 AM CT/3 AM MT/2 AM PT on Saturday 8/14, the loop synchronizes for all time zones and remains that way for the rest of the Olympics. (No separate, time adjusted HD feed for West Coast affiliates.)

Of course, things change and the Excel file is dated 7/14/04.
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I guess NBC's stations need a little break between the Olympics and the
convention.
Why? Is their HD equipment powered by treadmills? Guess that explains the low power transmissions at some stations... they just don't have enough people.
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Bell ExpressVu will be picking up WHDH DT Boston on channel 345 so we should get the opening ceremonies at 6pm PDT here on the west coast.

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Opening Ceremony in HD, according to the Excel file:

Eastern Time Zone: 8PM Review of Salt Lake in HD; 9PM Opening Ceremony

Central Time Zone: 7PM Review of Salt Lake in HD; 8PM Opening Ceremony

Mountain Time Zone: NO review of Salt Lake in HD; 7PM Opening Ceremony

Pacific Time Zone: 8PM Review of Salt Lake in HD; 9PM Opening Ceremony
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What's the excel file? Is this just for OTA, will west coast people watching it on satellite still get it at 6PM?
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Pacific Time Zone: 8PM Review of Salt Lake in HD; 9PM Opening Ceremony

In other words, the PT HD feed of the Opening Ceremony is delayed 3 hours from the ET feed, as one would expect with normal prime time programming. So the HD version will be one hour behind the analog version, like it will be for ET viewers.

At 1AM PT, West Coast HD feed replays the one hour Salt Lake review.

At 5AM ET/4 AM CT/3 AM MT/2 AM PT on Saturday 8/14, the loop synchronizes for all time zones and remains that way for the rest of the Olympics. (No separate, time adjusted HD feed for West Coast affiliates.)

Of course, things change and the Excel file is dated 7/14/04.
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What's the excel file? Is this just for OTA, will west coast people watching it on satellite still get it at 6PM?
So, if there is indeed a HD feed for West Coast, then it will be ET/PT. This will affect OTA and cable only as satellite is on a single-feed HD feed (not mirror of local station). The Excel sheet is mentioned here:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/showt...36#post4180536

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Or, they can join it in progress at 8 PM. But that would be truly awful.

I suppose a third possibility is to have zilch between 6 PM and 10 PM PT and wait for the HD loop of the opening ceremonies to begin repeating at 10 PM PT. Perhaps this is what some will do just to "increase analog ratings."
This was currently my thought based on system capabilities, hold the HD feed start on the West Coast affiliates until a later time (either in the middle of the ceremonies or until its restart).

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I just can't believe KNBC would preempt their local programming (especially news) to run the 24-hour HD Olympics loop.
Almost all (if not all) affiliates are pre-empting local programming (which isn't much beyond Olympics anyway) on the HD to this special network provided HD feed. (Hence the FCC waivers and special positioning on satellite).

In any case, my current expectation is that the first mentioned "Excel" reference is likely correct. A special feed of the opening ceremonies will start on the West Coast at 9pm Pacific for OTA and cable. It is doubtful that most people can get home by 6pm to see the feed (although, this is personally what I was hoping to do). Satellite folks don't have this issue. Sucks to be cable/OTA in this case, but one must remember that it is all delayed in the first place. Three more hours isn't going to do much.

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Maybe this will confuse or clarify:

Interesting XLS worksheet posted by a KNTV employee (local NBC O&O) on Yahoo's HDTV-in-SFBay group (must become a member to access) showing actual broadcast times for the HD content.

Generally speaking, the "original broadcast" will be 8 hours long, beginning at 1am pacific and 4am eastern, showing events from the previous day. This 8 hour loop will then be rebroadcast 3 times.

Exceptions include:

1. The broadcasts on Aug. 18 and 20, which are six-hour loops starting at the same time and rebroadcast 4 times.

2. Opening ceremonies, which is a four hour show starting the evening of Aug. 13th (9 eastern, 8 central, 7 mountain, and 9 pacific) and is rebroadcast throughout the next day (the 14th)

3. Closing ceremonies, a four-hour show originally broadcast on Aug. 30th, starting at 1am pacific, 4 eastern, and rebroadcast once.

Actual content listed on each broadcast is the same available on NBC's Oly web site.

Assuming this is true, this would indicate that the HD stuff will be delayed past the SD broadcast (which we understood to be the case) but not a full 24 hours. If you are a night owl you can just hold off a few hours and catch it 'almost live'!
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I just can't believe KNBC would preempt their local programming (especially news) to run the 24-hour HD Olympics loop.
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