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Dim Display / Pixelation Loss - NuVo OLED Control Pad [NV-E6GCP-DC] - Need Recos

Have a Grand Concerto 6 zone install from 6 years ago.

Have had to replace several NuVo E6G Control Panels NV-E6GCP-DC due to display going completely black, rendering panel unusable.

Panels in 3 zones are now either completely black or too dim to see.

Anyone else have this issue with this panel model number?


Looking in to NuVo panel replacements and only see 2 options:
1 - NuVo Decora OLED Control Pad NV-I8GCP
2 - Nuvo COLOR TOUCH PAD NV-CTP36-V2

Worried about buying another OLED panel because of the issues with the E6G.

Are the NV-I8GCP panels any better in terms of longevity and don't dim so quickly?

Or is it better to move to the color touch pad since it's an LCD display?
If it is better to buy the color pad, is it compatible with the GC system we have?

And, can we mix and-or match panels across the home?
We were thinking of buying one color pad for the area of the home we use the most and then buy the newer OLED for the other areas.

Thoughts?

Advice would be greatly appreciated here!
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I don't have any experience with the Essentia OLED control pads, but I've got 10 NV-I8GCP dual-gang OLED pads in my system, including one mounted outside, and their displays are all fine after 8 years...

You can mix and match the single and double-gang displays on the system. I wouldn't recommend the color LCD display as it's very expensive for the functionality. The GCP panels are easily found on eBay.

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Have a Grand Concerto 6 zone install from 6 years ago.

Have had to replace several NuVo E6G Control Panels NV-E6GCP-DC due to display going completely black, rendering panel unusable.

Panels in 3 zones are now either completely black or too dim to see.

Anyone else have this issue with this panel model number?


Looking in to NuVo panel replacements and only see 2 options:
1 - NuVo Decora OLED Control Pad NV-I8GCP
2 - Nuvo COLOR TOUCH PAD NV-CTP36-V2

Worried about buying another OLED panel because of the issues with the E6G.

Are the NV-I8GCP panels any better in terms of longevity and don't dim so quickly?

Or is it better to move to the color touch pad since it's an LCD display?
If it is better to buy the color pad, is it compatible with the GC system we have?

And, can we mix and-or match panels across the home?
We were thinking of buying one color pad for the area of the home we use the most and then buy the newer OLED for the other areas.

Thoughts?

Advice would be greatly appreciated here!
I have 6 control pads E6G 1-Gang Control Pad and two went black at 6 years and the one more almost too dim to read. Ordered two replacements fro Discount Home Automation website. They had the best price I could find. I don't call the installer when I am replacing a component whether its a NUVO keypad or an electronic pool Chlorine Generator. I figure I can just put new one in the place of the old one. As it goes they always make changes in six year period so new part not exactly "plug and play". I am having trouble configuring my new E6G's. I managed to get them to play but when I power it off the zone does not power off. If I hold down the OFF few seconds it kills all zones then I can turn on individually the zones I want back on. That's not a very good "fix". I found where a have downloaded the NUVO configuration software so I am going to connect laptop to the NUVO Essentia box and see what I can do. I have to first retrieve the current configuration from the Essentia hardware. I am thinking as I write this if my Dining Room Zone is configured why is that configuration not st ill in place for the new control pad. Unless the control pads hold the config and not the main NUVO box. DO YOU HAVE ANY advice for me? I can make it play the zone but when I push the OFF button on the new Keypad the light on the keypad goes out but the zone is still active until I hold down the OFF and get an ALL OFF. You can guess that if I cant make it go off without an all off that subject zone does not come on when I turn the keypad back on. I am able make it play again when I go into the keypad controls and select "Party" it starts playing again. As you can see I am in a quandary. I have a few more steps to take hoping I can load the whole system config software I down loaded.
Thank you for any help you give to me. Sounds like you been there and done that so have the knowledge now.
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I am having trouble configuring my new E6G's. I managed to get them to play but when I power it off the zone does not power off.
You need to tell the keypad what zone it's in. That's why they don't power on/off the individual zone. See the installation manual, but it's in the menu for the keypad: SETUP->ADVANCED SETTINGS->ZONE NUMBER

See page 24 of the manual...

If you don't have it, it can be downloaded here:

https://www.homecontrols.com/homecon...stallation.pdf

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I had the same issue with my Essentia E6G keypads, they alle died after 6-7 years. First dim and after a period of a year the OLED screens were black.



Even after 9 years now the OLED screen on my tuner is starting to pixelate and dim. I think it's the OLED screen quality which is the issue.



I decided not to replace them as probably after 6 years it will be the same story. Since Nuvo didn't innovate last 10 years on a successor of this E6G, I think it's time to look for a complete replacement (i.e. Russound, ...) that can use the UTP keypad connection.
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I had the same issue with my Essentia E6G keypads, they alle died after 6-7 years. First dim and after a period of a year the OLED screens were black.

Even after 9 years now the OLED screen on my tuner is starting to pixelate and dim. I think it's the OLED screen quality which is the issue.
The little screens on the front of the Tuners is not the same type (or OLED) - but yes, my tuner's display is showing some uneven wear as well, but this is not unique to NuVo - my microwave oven, same 9-year age as my NuVo gear shows similar wear.

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I decided not to replace them as probably after 6 years it will be the same story. Since Nuvo didn't innovate last 10 years on a successor of this E6G, I think it's time to look for a complete replacement (i.e. Russound, ...) that can use the UTP keypad connection.
Well, they did create a successor - the whole Player portfolio... Which with the touchscreen displays now really does have the main feature set covered. But I agree that they did a poor job of providing an upgrade path for Essentia/Grand Concerto owners. You can swap out everything for Player products and keypads/touchscreens - but it's a full replacement, and yes, we'd all look at other products when contemplating that level of expense...

Which is a real shame because it would so simple for them to create a Player-based product to "update" the whole NuVoNet-based line - and I bet every NuVo dealer would reach out to their entire customer base to offer that! Especially folks that don't have the MPS4 server.

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NV-I8GCP 2.7” OLED

https://www.led-professional.com/pro...dio-controller.
Identified ID codes (see enclosed picture):
OS128064PK27MY0E50
Controller: SSD1325T6

Potential replacement (needs confirmation):
http://electronicicchip.sell.everych...-size-2-7.html
or
https://www.texim-europe.com/product...864ASYDT03-OSD
Requires no soldering.


NV-E6GCP-UK 1.0” OLED

Currently unidentified ID codes (See enclosed picture):
1350050000730AR
1010141030064
102399601q K04

Perhaps (thx @orlandojones111 )
OS128064PN10MY0B10
http://static6.arrow.com/aropdfconve...0040750_01.pdf
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@Bobone , everything in the Osram Pictiva line of components show as 'obsolete/discontinued' at DigiKey.

There are a few random Pictiva displays on eBay, but nothing matching.

My semi-dedicated theater: The EXASCALE CINEMA
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Put a compatible control system in front of the Nuvo and use your smartphone / tablets / desktop computer to control.
You can then integrate Lighting devices...then you can use a "lighting" switch pad to also control functions.
Or your handheld TV remote control...etc.
Much better long term solution than just replacing the "dumb" screens with another.
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@Bobone , everything in the Osram Pictiva line of components show as 'obsolete/discontinued' at DigiKey.

There are a few random Pictiva displays on eBay, but nothing matching.
For the 2.7”, I think this alternative could be available:
https://www.texim-europe.com/product...864ASYDT03-OSD
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I read your older post regarding replacement of the OLED displays which become dim (unreadable) for the Nuvo Essentia. Did you have luck replacing yours with your idea? I would PAY YOU to replace mine. Interested? I have about 16.


Thank you

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Nope, have not tried. But am very interested. Especially the 1".
The 2.7's looked feasible.

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I read your older post regarding replacement of the OLED displays which become dim (unreadable) for the Nuvo Essentia. Did you have luck replacing yours with your idea? I would PAY YOU to replace mine. Interested? I have about 16.


Thank you

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You can use a smartphone as a user interface device for a control system to manage the Nuvo plus a whole lot more.
The Nuvo old displays are too singular purpose for today's connected homes. not worth putting any time / cost into rejuvenation.
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Has anyone actually located where to buy OS128064PN10MY0B10? I've sent plenty of email requests to suppliers overseas (mostly Asia), but haven't received any replies... I'm keen to repair mine. I'm in Sydney Australia and purchased all of my Control Pads used from eBay (as we don't have many suppliers here at reasonable cost.)
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Maybe @orlandojones111 has some info?
I got stuck as well...
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I had a NV-I8GCP that suddenly developed a problem. The brightness wasn't a problem but the pixels were seemingly randomized and nothing was intelligible. Over several days, I tried cycling power multiple times and plugging it into different ports but nothing changed the symptom. After about a year, I plugged it back in just to check it again and the display was fine so I put it back into service. Perhaps a charge somewhere took a long time to drain.
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