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I do not know how inclined you are towards any particular home automation system, but I can really recommend HomeSeer to integrate everything if you are not a seasoned programmer in Linux/C. It’s very easy and stable to work with and a fairly large community of developers and professional installers. I have been running Vera in parallel, but am seriously considering to migrate. It’s a bit odd to run full home automation off a music system (MPS4), so I have not done it yet 😁. HomeSeer is however better at some Z-wave devices so I have a small Z-wave network running off it too with integration between HomeSeer/MPS4 and VeraPlus...
The downside with HS has been their old UI, but they released HomeSeer mobile yesterday.

HomeSeer has 50% discounts in May and November and have very friendly trials. You could probably trial into May with extensions.
Hello, I have a RPi 3b+ and have installed homeseer and will see what i can achieve! I am also dusting off an old laptop and see what I can do with a windows machine as well.
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This is a great thread. The work all of you have done on the MPS4 is top notch!


I have a couple of questions for all of you GC enthusiasts...


1. Would you still put in a GC system with keypads today?


2. Are new GC components still available? (homecontrols show them in stock)


3. If not a GC, what system would you put in today that best approximates it?


Right now I have the monoprice WHA system (12 zones) in my house. It was a good value but it is somewhat limited in functionality. I would really like to have source control and metadata at the keypad. It looks like the GC/MPS4 combo does this well and then some... But I am several years late joining this party.

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I personally think a used GC represents good value for money, especially now that we have a roadmap and upgrade path for NuVo legacy products. Recently, someone was selling a GC, Amp, 8 controllers, and an MPS4v2 for $1000. By itself, that's fairly good value for a standalone music server and radio streamer.

I'd buy everything on eBay - there are complete systems that are on sale with some regularity. You'll save a lot of money that way. Thanks to the ongoing work here, I feel confident that I can keep my GC "modernized" for another 5-7 years.

MPS4 is another story - We have solved how to upgrade the MPS4 hardware to more modern standards, but the underlying Autonomics Software is no longer supported, and is only good for streaming so long as the streaming site APIs don't change. Spotify is already not working reliably, perhaps Pandora is next - who knows?

Now, if you add and install Homeseer for $175, you'll have Sonos and CCA NuvoBridge for HS already released (control/Metadata enabled - CCA is an additional $40 Homeseer PI), with the following features in the pipeline:
- AirPlay (Metadata only at first, hopefully control to follow)
- Sonos Menuing from the keypad
- Sonos Music Library keypad menu support.
- NuVo zone contol from within the Sonos app
- Alexa integration via Homeseer
- NuVo Player Portfolio integration Via Homeseer

This investment in Homeseer is the necessary component that will keep the GC working as you'd want it to for the next 5-7 years. The featureset will not be native, but it's close enough to make it work. The drawback is this - making it work requires knowledge of basic programming, and some patience - the software is not commercial class, with built-in installers. That said, it's fairly straightforward, and self-explaining in terms of how to install it (inho).

Feel free to ask any specific questions.


PS. I'm way behind in finishing the next release, so I've decided to cut a few features in order just to get it out there for the 2 or 3 people who may want to install it. There is also a standalone Sonos bridge which Joe maintains that is in Beta, which likely will require less fiddling to get working.
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I am making some progress in creating an Airplay device. Almost there...
Still having problems with the browser(?) caching the image.

Any ideas? Don't know much HTML...
HS3 can turn off caching but what we need is some way to force refreshing the image like the CCA does.

Here is the string that I use for the CoverArt:
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I have couple more questions:


1. Will the NV-E6GCP-DC (1 gang keypads) work on the Grand Concerto? I see some pictures of them that state on the back the they only work with 'NuVo Essentia G System'...


2. I don't use any of the big name streaming services but I do use a Grace Digital radio that is basically an aggregator and player of free streaming radio urls. Will the Music Port/Autonomics software play generic streaming radio urls directly and display metadata if available?

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[QUOTE=AlienWarlock;57633828]I have couple more questions:


1. Will the NV-E6GCP-DC (1 gang keypads) work on the Grand Concerto? I see some pictures of them that state on the back the they only work with 'NuVo Essentia G System'...


I can answer question #1 - Yes the 1 gang keypad works fine with the GC system. I have a three of them connected to mine. If i remember correctly, the 1 gang keypad is even in the GC install manual. A problem i read about, and now having with one of the small keypads, is the display on the keypad begins to dim over time. I have no idea why this happens as it doesnt seem to happen with the larger keypad. One of my small keypads is almost to the piont where it can not be read any longer because it is so dim. This, despite the fact the brightness is turned all the way up. Its taken about 4-5 yrs for this to happen to only one of the three i have.
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Hello, has anyone tried replacing the OLED screen in the keypads?
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Hello, has anyone tried replacing the OLED screen in the keypads?
With what? Just a straight repair job?

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With what? Just a straight repair job?
Yes, just a replacement of the screen rather than the whole unit.
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Yes, just a replacement of the screen rather than the whole unit.
Not me. Sorry. Have you found a source for them? I would assume they are custom.

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Not me. Sorry. Have you found a source for them? I would assume they are custom.
Well, the 2.7" keypads used Osram Pictiva OLED screens. The 1" seem to be some local (China) or some in-house (Nuvo technologies) screen, this may be the reason the 2.7 keypad screens still seem fine and the 1" ones degrade. The UK 1", which is what I have dismantled, uses ARM chips so I am wondering if I can find a replacement as a couple of my screens have faded. I have found a couple of candidates and will buy a couple of options and see what I can do.
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I think this idea is very interesting.

My Uk 1” are also becoming quite dim whereas most 2,7” are doing well.

Except for one 2,7 that is behaving strangely.
- if I have it at patch cord distance from the hub it works fine
- at around 5 meters it starts normal but then gets dimmer and dimmer and then goes dark after two days.

It has clearly been burnt, but the behavior is odd.

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Squeezebox has been added to the list of supported music servers in the upcoming release of Homeseer NuVoBridge. Squeezebox Server and player software is free, but the HS Squeezebox Plugin will run you $50 from the developer.
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Well I'm now the owner of a Nuvo system including an MPS4, T2SIR & Ipod dock. So far I only have 2 keypads but am in the market for more.


I got everything working properly in my bench test, but have one issue I can't figure out. For some reason, I can't reset the zone number for my two keypads. I tried to follow the directions from the manual below, but the 'Advanced Settings' menu option was greyed out. Any ideas on how to get around this?

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This procedure allows an addressed Control Pad to be moved
to a new location. Within the main menu of each zone, go to
Setup. Within the Setup options, scroll to Advanced Settings
and to Zone Number. All the used addresses will be grayed
out. Any available addresses will be accessible. Scrolling to None
will erase the current address of that Control Pad’s
zone. In this menu selection, the Control Pad can be reset to
any available zone.
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If i remember correctly, you have to push and hold the greyed out Advanced Settings option for 5 seconds. This is so its not accidentally selected.




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Well I'm now the owner of a Nuvo system including an MPS4, T2SIR & Ipod dock. So far I only have 2 keypads but am in the market for more.


I got everything working properly in my bench test, but have one issue I can't figure out. For some reason, I can't reset the zone number for my two keypads. I tried to follow the directions from the manual below, but the 'Advanced Settings' menu option was greyed out. Any ideas on how to get around this?
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Hello, has anyone used the autonomics MMS2 kit? This has nuvobridge installed and wondered if anyone has used this.
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If i remember correctly, you have to push and hold the greyed out Advanced Settings option for 5 seconds. This is so its not accidentally selected.

Thanks! That did the trick.


Also to answer my #2 question above... For streaming various random internet radio stations, the TuneIn 'app' on the Music Port does this well. As long as the stations you are interested in are listed on there.

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P300 Integration - first thoughts

So, I became a happy owner of a P300.

A nice little device with an associated app.
The device and functionality have been reviewed elseware so I will not, and really cannot at this point add anything new.

However, the integration with the Nuvo GC is important to me.

Legrand have made available a Plugin for free to the HomeSeer platform. The plugin works fine.
--> Have a look at the included screen shot to see which meta data and controls are available.

The P300 (the app) makes it possible to access a complete music library. Either on USB or an external media source.
Unfortunately the Plugin does not seem to provide more than a top 10 list that you can curate with the app. This is a bit disappointing.
Maybe there is some other way? I will investigate.

Also enclosed is a comparison of the HomeSeer devices for a P300 and a CCA.
Thanks to prior work, integration with the Grand Concerto will be limited but very easy. Thank you for the PI Legrand!

A more advanced HSTouch app containing metadata and full transport control of zones should be possible,
but the limited access to the music library is quite unfortunate.
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I had a couple of people interested in the procedure for backing up / changing the harddrive of a Nuvo MPS4. I own a Nuvo MPS4 Elite with a 640GB harddrive and decided to change the drive (a Seagate model) before it failed, the point of failure being imminent, as the MPS4 drive turned out to be not even of the premuim types.

In order to make this work, you need to make a low-level copy of the original harddrive and install a new drive with the same or larger size. You can do it in the following steps:

0) Power down and unplug the power cord of the MPS4.
1) Open the cover and disconnect the old (Seagate) harddrive from the board of the MPS4.
2) Take a brand new (solid-state) drive of the same or larger size (I used a 1TB Samsung SSD).
3) Plug both drives into another computer (unpowered).
4) Prapare a USB drive as a boot drive with a stripped-down version of Linux, called clonezilla (clonezilla.org), designed for low-level disk copying.
5) Plug the clonezilla boot USB into the computer.
6) Power up the PC but DO NOT boot the operating system (Windows or other). Boot from the clonzilla USB instead.
7) Perform a full image copy of the MPS4 on the new drive. Clonezilla works with DOS-like linux commands you need to be familiar with.
8) Power down and disconnect all drives.
9) Install the new SSD into the MPS4.
10) Optional - you may want to install some additional RAM into the MSP4 as well. I found out mine had only 1 GB of RAM in it. So I put in an additonal 2 GB for a total of 3 GB. The slots are really first-gen, so you need to find the right chips. I think Windows XP (the operating system of my MPS4 Elite) does not use/recognize more than 3GB of RAM, so that was the maximum I could put in. If you have other ideas on how you could expand that - please feel free to share.
11) Put on the cover, plug in and boot the MPS4. It should boot up noticeably faster and smoother.

I strongly recommend deleting all of your music files from the original MSP4 harddrive before beginning the procedure, as it would be make the copying faster. You can add them back to the new drive afterwards. I also recommend creating a backup image of the original harddrive (with the clonezilla software) which you can keep on a USB somewhere just in case. That way, if you decide to experiment with your MPS4 and kill it in the process, you will be able to resurrect it in no time.

If you do not have an IT background, I strongly suggest you ask somebody with a solid computer engineering experience to do this. It is not a difficult procedure, but a certain minimum understanding of computers and operating systems is necessary.

Good luck!
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I had a couple of people interested in the procedure for backing up / changing the harddrive of a Nuvo MPS4. I own a Nuvo MPS4 Elite with a 640GB harddrive and decided to change the drive (a Seagate model) before it failed, the point of failure being imminent, as the MPS4 drive turned out to be not even of the premuim types.

Good luck!

Thanks for posting this very detailed instruction roadmap! One note I would suggest adding: Using XP with an SSD, just based on my limited knowledge, I think you may also need to periodically manually run some low level disk procedures which clean up the unclaimed sectors on the disk. Some people have reported a gradual performance slowdown without this step.

A few of us have successfully upgraded the MPS4 to Win 7/32, which can automatically handle the SSD sector cleanup. It requires a call to NuVo tech support to acquire the install password for the Autonomics software.
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App alternatives

Have not been been up to much lately as I seem to have found some sort of stability that most family members are happy with.

My MPS4 is now running smoothly again. It hosts 3-4 critical sw on top of Win7.
- the original autonomic music server / MPS4 player
- Homeseer HS3 for integration and special tweaks
- a port splicer (VSPE) for the internal Nuvo bridge
- Shairport-Sync providing an Airplay bridge

It’s nice to have gotten rid of the additional hw for Airplay and HS3!
The ChromeCast Audio is still very important, but gets power from the MPS4 USB. Almost “hw-fusion”
Everything starts up nicely after forced or voluntary power cycling.

Furthermore I now have a P300 that is also integrated through Legrand’s plug-in to Homeseer. I am still figuring out if/how it could provide me with additional functionality.

So far I get metadata to the keypads from all the sources above including the P300 and can control sources pretty smoothly.

My next step is (perhaps) to try to improve the app user interface.
So far I use the original MPS4 Nuvo App combined with streaming apps such as Spotify.
Works fine, but the MPS4 app is not perfectly integrated.

I see a few alternatives:
- add Sonos as @xs10shl has done, and work from there. Works fine afaik.
- try to improve the P300 app. Unclear if possible? Anyone have documentation?
- use some sort of standard app platform/framework to integrate everything. I could use HS3TOUCH, but am not convinced that it will be good enough. Ideas are most welcome?
- improve the Nuvo MPS4 app. Possibly by working with the database or other settings.
- do an app from scratch. This is too difficult for me. Especially as the alternatives above look nice.

Any ideas or comments?

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Any ideas or comments?

I added function stubs for NuVo Portfolio player support in my code, so you can define up to 3 portfolio players and have all the function work. That said, I can't finish the code because I don't have a player - perhaps you can give it a go. I've spent a little time and made it simple to add support for basically any Homeseer Plugin that plays music. It's not a generic interface, but simple enough to use that adding a few additional conditional statements in a few scripts will make any new player type work.



As far as a single UI goes, I've kind of punted on that, but I do support a default UI configuration in HS3Touch and HS3 Mobile. These are not great products, but it's a start. Since Sonos is my Go-to app, I've embedded that app with functions that I need to control NuVo. The Macrobuilder code will basically work with any music App that allows for a creation of a playlist, but for now I've only tested it with Sonos.
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Anyone know anything about Spotify URLs?

In the database they are typically very long:
Code:
spotify://www.spotify.com/aHR0cDovLzEyNy4wLjAuMTo4MC9JUHJvdmlkZXNBdWRpb1N0cmVhbS8/c3I9U3BvdGlmeSZpZz0yZjExNTYxMi04ZWIxLTQxNTgtODk1ZS1hMTdhODc1NjNhMTkmcGU9WVRBeU9EUTRaRFF0WWpZMk15MDBaR1l6TFRoaE9ESXRZV1E1TmpjMU9XSXlZMlExWDFOdmRYSmpaVE5BUVdSdGFXNXBjM1J5WVhSdmNrQXdNQzB3TUMwd01DMHdNQzB3TUMwd01BPT0mYWN0PVlteHBaR2RoY21RJTNEJmFpZD1jM0J2ZEdsbWVUcGhiR0oxYlRvelVHUkpOM1E0WTNWSGVtbFJOelpRTW05dlJuQlMmdGlkPWMzQnZkR2xtZVRwMGNtRmphem94YVhGNGF6VXhialo1ZVdNMlQwbFlkVGRrV0RodiZhcnQ9c1l6dzhxWVlCUlV1d1pwVFdTRWdwanVPWG5VJTNE
The first 3/4 of above is identical for all songs.
I was hoping that the last part would be similar to the URL found from the "modern" Spotify track URLs as can bee seen below:

HTML Code:
https://open.spotify.com/track/6QfS2wq5sSC1xAJCQsTSlj
I am hoping to "repair" the MPS4 playlist function. Should be possible if I can only get the right format...

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Spotify playlists in MPS4

Problem perhaps solved...
Some database entries are Base64-encoded twice!

“Repairing” Spotify playlists “should” now be feasible...

Just need to:
- download Spotify playlist URIs in a systematic way
- inject them into the database correctly (and w/o getting them overwritten by some CRC check...)
- build/adapt Nuvo menus

EDIT:
- I can now replicate Spotify playlists that work and can be saved in the MPS4 at will.
- Slightly manual process. May need help to automate it.
- should be feasible on all non-modified original MPS4s if you enable read/write access to the files.
- any interest?

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Album art

Can someone tell me if other images than from the MPS4 (including online content) have ever turned up on the Nuvo app?

- Nuvo Tuner?
- iPad dock?
- NNA?
...

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Can someone tell me if other images than from the MPS4 (including online content) have ever turned up on the Nuvo app?

- Nuvo Tuner?
- iPad dock?
- NNA?
...

Just based on my research, the Autonomics App does not honor the AlbumArt flag setting for any non-MPS4 NuVoNet-enabled sources, but my testing was not exhaustive to all the NuVo products. There is never an AlbumArtAvailable call from the App in the log file for anything other than the MPS4 sources. Perhaps there's a setting I missed, so I'm not ruling it out.

What I'm curious about is if there's a way to dupe the database into showing a picture anyways. The first way you've already discovered is to replace the unavailable.jpg with he cover. Perhaps there's a way to force a reload in the DB, or to create a setting in the DB which points to another file that HS controls.
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Major Announcement: THE MPS4 HAS NATIVE AIRPLAY

You are NOT going to believe this! It is the most well kept secret of our little jewel.

Goto:
- on original WinXPe, C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Autonomic Controls\
- on Win7, C:\ProgramData\Autonomic Controls\
"Show hidden files"

Edit: MCE Control Server.xml
Change: airPlay="true"
HTML Code:
  <Sources>
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_A" oName="Channel_1a" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source1" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_B" oName="Channel_1b" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source2" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="true" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_C" oName="Channel_1c" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source3" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_D" oName="Channel_1d" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source4" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
  </Sources>
</Configuration>
INCREDIBLE!!

Transport control (almost) works:
- Rewind, Previous and Next works fine
- But, Pause crashes the Airplay connection for me

Album art comes nicely.

I have not tried to set a password (Airplay is exclusive anyway)

Sound appears stable and good.
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You are NOT going to believe this! It is the most well kept secret of our little jewel.

Goto: C:\ProgramData\Autonomic Controls\
Edit: MCE Control Server.xml
Change: airPlay="true"
HTML Code:
  <Sources>
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_A" oName="Channel_1a" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source1" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_B" oName="Channel_1b" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source2" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="true" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_C" oName="Channel_1c" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source3" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_D" oName="Channel_1d" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source4" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
  </Sources>
</Configuration>
INCREDIBLE!!

Transport control (almost) works:
- Rewind, Previous and Next works fine
- But, Pause crashes the Airplay connection for me

Album art comes nicely.

I have not tried to set a password (Airplay is exclusive anyway)

Sound appears stable and good.
What a gem! I'm going to try it when I get home!
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You are NOT going to believe this! It is the most well kept secret of our little jewel.

Goto: C:\ProgramData\Autonomic Controls\
Edit: MCE Control Server.xml
Change: airPlay="true"
HTML Code:
  <Sources>
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_A" oName="Channel_1a" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source1" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_B" oName="Channel_1b" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source2" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="true" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_C" oName="Channel_1c" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source3" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
    <source enabled="true" name="Music_Server_D" oName="Channel_1d" deviceId="a02848d4-b663-4df3-8a82-ad96759b2cd5" pos="Source4" formFactor="" gain="Variable" airPlay="false" airPlayPassword="" ctrlUri="" />
  </Sources>
</Configuration>
INCREDIBLE!!

Transport control (almost) works:
- Rewind, Previous and Next works fine
- But, Pause crashes the Airplay connection for me

Album art comes nicely.

I have not tried to set a password (Airplay is exclusive anyway)

Sound appears stable and good.

So the feature exists in its entirety except for a check box in the config page to set a flag to 'true' in an xml file? It seems like that it was left off due to apple licensing reasons rather than technical reasons. And then the developers left the code in as an easter egg for someone to find.

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You are NOT going to believe this! It is the most well kept secret of our little jewel.

I was unable to duplicate your success. I'm not seeing a NuVo AirPlay output added to my phone. Does this work independently for you without the 3rd party Airplay server you already installed on your MPS4? Also, for some reason, your xml source config contains a few extra items that I don't have. AirPlayPassword is not present and settable in my config file - mysterious.



Perhaps you can explain your settings a little more exactly - do you have the NuVoBridge enabled for the given output, and assigned to a source? Any other config changes you've made? Any other software you've installed on your MPS4?
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