Originally Posted by Joe Jensen
What speakers do you folks recommend for ceilings in rooms where we will just play music?
I typically use Niles CM7BG (least expensive, good for background music), Niles CM7PR, and Speakercraft Profile AIM7 Two Series II. Origin Acoustics makes a speaker ring you can install in your prewire and then snap in/out any level of speaker you want, it's a cool system, would let you demo a couple different qualities on site. In general though, it's usually the WHA amp that could use some upgrading not the speakers. The CM7PR's are where I usualy find the sweet spot in cost and performance. IMHO speaker selection is very.... unimportant, so long as you just get something decent midgrade, it will be pretty similar. I'd just look to get the largest speaker with the smallest cutout, make sure it's reputable, and frameless grills are a must.
One option is to use control4 to pipe the TV audio to those speakers when watching TV. The other option would be a sound bar or other speaker setup that lifts out of the cabinet with the TV. Expecting a 46-55" TV.
This will actually depend on a coupel factors. Either option, soundbar or I/C speakers for sound will work fine, but the quetion is, does on cost way more than the other. If the lift you're using will operate up and down with a factory cable box remote (IR learning), then you can stick with the soundbar and you would not need to purchase an expensive remote for this zone.
However, if you already have to comitt to a remote for this zone because of the lift, then I suggest you use the I/C Speakers. They will already be there for the WHA system, just make them do double duty. Soundbar would be a couple hundred dollars, adding the sound to these speakers would probably cost about the same assuming that you already had the control in place for it.
Similar can be said for your master bedroom situation. I typically send the sound through the i/c speakers, but I understand your point about maybe wanting it to come from the TV. Depends a lot on the room size, etc.
I considered pulling flex duct everywhere but after reading a ton on the internet it looked like you needed 1.5" or 2" and it's pretty expensive. A couple of premium AV and automation companies suggested also adding fiber to every media drop as the cable is cheap. But the terminations are costly and apparently every few years the fiber changes. Also considered a 1" flex conduit with the media bundle. Thoughts on this?
I use 1 1/4" and it's not that bad when you're buying it in 100' or 500' rolls. Don't use fiber unless you really have a good reason to do so. "Future Proofing" is not a good reason. Very rarely is there a solution that only works on fiber, and doesn't have it's Cat cable counter part coming out shortly after and at half the price. See the video section of my wiring guide
, 2 Cat6, 2 RG-6 is sufficient. Put in the tubing if you want to feel good about it.
I bit more data, We will have a media/wiring closet that's 12 feet deep by 6 feet wide. It shares a wall with rear of the family room. All data wiring, lighting automation, automated shade wiring, security, cameras, etc will be run to this room. Likely add a dedicate mini split AC to keep it cool.
The mini split isn't necessary, there's way more than enough air volume in this room. You could also pull a/c lines here and just try it without it first, but I pretty much gauruntee it won't be necessary. Just seal the rack up, blow the hot air out the top, and the air coming in from the bottom will be plenty cool enough.