[quote=ahard;57366446] Ok. But I still don't understand the 'problem'. If you're connecting a Chromecast to the speaker what functionally are you losing that you wouldn't get with the Chromecast? [\QUOTE]
Any functionality that is built into the speaker itself that is not paprt of the feature set of chromecast. Let's just take the most obvious one:
* physical preset buttons. Does the chromecast have these? The 1,2,3,4,5,6 buttons on the top. That is, can I press a single button on the chomecast and have it play my favorite local radio station? My wife doesn't want to use voice, she's right there, it's easier for her. If not then you lose this functionality of chromecast is in aux. Because now when i press the button the speaker I lose aux and the power of chromecast, but if I keep it in aux I cant use the buttons.
[QUOTE]Streaming wise you're not loosing any functionality. And you're getting a much more stable connection than you'd get with Bluetooth and you're taking your phone or tablet out of the equation once the connection is established.[QUOTE]
Yeah. This isn't a problem. I'm not sure which traditional whole-home audio solutions you're referring to, but the more traditional whole-home audio systems typically work with integrator based home automation systems. Those traditional systems do work with Alexa and Google Home via the home automation system. Again, all of thess whole-home audio systems are streamers. Streamers by themselves weren't smart to begin with. They become smart when combined with voice control and home automation scenes.
I think this is what I'm referring to. I'm trying to make a distinction between the established players that had one purpose: to do whole-home audio and those smart devices that came in that added whole-home audio as a secondary feature.
'Traditional Whole-home' audio = pre-smart-device whole-home = Sonos, Bose, etc (the non-smart, kind)
'Smart devices' = Alexa, Chromecast which can be turned into whole-home systems
Sir or ma'ma.
It's sir'. And i think you meant mam (or madam)
You aren't "losing" any features when you connect a Chromecast Audio 'puck' to a speaker that has a aux input. The only "features" of such speakers are their ability to play music by connecting a external source. And of course it is a Chromecast speaker. I'm still not sure what features of these speakers that have an aux input you're losing when connecting a Chromecast. A little research into speakers reveal that many of them are just your standard speaker. If you're referring to losing Bluetooth I'd just say that you don't need Bluetooth to stream audio if you have a Chromecast connected. That's pointless.
Maybe the issue is what I mean by 'lose'. Here's what I mean. With chromecast plugged into aux in my bose SoundTouch:
1) Press a presset button to play favorite online radio station
2) Now say 'ok google play spotify'
Notice: spotify doens't play because aux isn't active, one has to manually change over (this is what I mean by LOSE, and something that wouldn't happen with an integrated speaker)
From the other direction
1) 'ok google play spotify' (with aux active) -> spotify plays
2) press '2' on remote or speaker to play favoritte local radio station
Notice: now aux has been disabled.
More examples below...
There are physical buttons on Chromecast speakers.
Are there preset buttons? Like does it say buttons 1 to 6 for all my wifes favorite local radio channels?
[QUOTE]Again you don't need bluetooth to stream when you have Chromecast. Chromecast is a streamer. It is pointless to use Bluetooth to stream when you have Chromecast. Chromecast is a more stable connection for streaming than Bluetooth. Why would you need to stream with Bluetooth when you have a Chromecast? You wouldn't need to.
Chromecast will only stream from chromecast supported apps/device. Here's the situation:
1) I have a ebookreader on my laptop running linux that I really like but it doesn't support chromecast (ie there is no chromecast button) Furthermore, there is no 'streaming' site to go to, this is a local collection of 100 small audio files on my laptop read through my favorite audiobook reader
2) with a bose or sonos sytem you can stream ANY audio to the entire house nto jsut chromecast supported apps.
Unless there is a bluetooth input connection into one of the pucks I dont' nkow about (I only have chromecast tv).
(I've alctually tried a similar with chromecast tv on an android device and chormecast breaks the audiobook players 2x function and I tried to find ANY audiobook player that would do 2x through chomecast and couldn't find any.)
I don't think this would work with the pucks (at least the chromecast audio puck I'm considering, correct me if im wrong). Situation:
I have a record player i want to stream to the entire house. I need to plug it into an aux that will stream to the entire house. I only have pucks into dumbspeakers. Since all aux are occupied, I have no place to plug my record player to play
Yes, yes, yes, yes
I should note. (And correct me if I'm wrong.) That, again this works only with chromecast enabled apps or devices. Say for example I have a video game on my laptop or my phone that does not support chromecast. With Sonos and Bose anything that is goign through the audio out can go to the hosue, with chomecast unless I actually plug a a puck into the device or maybe try a hack by running a browser with 'cast desktop' (which Im sure would ruin the ramerate).
When you say presets I think presets like a radio where you have your favorites stations programmed to certain buttons. You don't set presets with streamers. You can ask the voice assistant to play your favorite playlist from your favorite streaming service. You can create routine in the Google Home app so that it plays your favorite play or a radio station from Tunein or Iheart at a certain time or day. But you don't walk about to a Chromecast speaker, press a button and you preset station begins to play.
I wish I had rep to post images and it would be very clear. Just google 'bose soundtouch' and nlook at the top of any of the devices. There are buttons 1,2,3,4,5,6. These are the ones my family uses often and my wife finds it much more fast and convenient than using her voice.
Well actually, Amazon has started selling Chromecast again. In my home I have Alexa and Google Assistant devices, but I find myself using Google Assistant more. It's more accurate weather. It's better at answering questions and it controls all of my smart home devices just like Alexa. The added benefit is that it also controls my Chromecast Audio and Chromecast video setup. I also use scenes from my home automation system in conjunction with my Chromecast Audios via Routines in the Google Home app to create music scenes.
Google Home works with Ecobee.
Yes I'm leaning towards Google these days--it's just more widely supported. I just have a complicated setup (a home docker/vm rackmount for the house running zoneminder for security cameras, plex/hdhomeruns for video, homeassistant for custom home automation and a few other things) and I already know that I'm goign to have to code up a lot of scripts for customized situation and I'd rather not do this for both Amazon and Google, but it's lookign mroe and more like I might have to do that.