Originally Posted by Joe Fernand
'This just popped up on youtube..'
- lots of useful features for the Installer market, still has to use 'visually lossless' compression though
Joe and others:
You have been very helpful. I am also in the same Journey. Finally upgraded to 4K with an incredible OLED. I have all my gear in the closet and had the same concept of only using TV as a monitor, thus just needed to send video from basement to TV.
But the new TVs have great streaming Apps and my receiver (only a couple of years old) does not support HDR. Yes, I will upgrade but all in, I always like to future proof and thus was looking for the ideal HDMI extender with 444 and ARC support for a reasonable price.
I went through the trouble of moving my receiver from the basement and connected it directly to the TV via HDMI to set a baseline. CEC works perfect (turn on TV, also powers Denon and changes Denon to TV audio). ARC also works great. Denon reports receiving Dolby Digital+5.1 from TV (even though I have read ARC only supports Dolby Digital). Thus LG + Denon on HDMI is a good marriage and it set my baseline. I was hoping the extenders would be transparent (work like the HDMI Cable). They are not.
Tried 2 of them so far, one from Monoprice, one from AV Access, both under $250. The one from Mono did not even do CEC well even though support said it would do ARC. The one from AV Access worked better but can only send PCM 2.0 signal from the TV back to the receiver, very frustrating. I have tried this with CAT6 cables, HDMI 2.0 cables, all short runs with my receiver next to the TV, thus I do not think cables are my problem. And again, it works, but it is only able to send PCM 2.0 back from the TV to the Denon receiver. I am emailing back and fwd with support. They say ARC does not support higher than Dolby Digital, not DD+ even though I see it working when I connect the TV directly to the receiver. May be my receiver and TV are using eARC to be able to send dolby digital+?. My Denon AV-x2200W is not supposed to support eARC. LG Oled does.
To be clear video and audio from the Denon to the TV work perfectly. I have not spent much time watching video from the Receiver to TV but what I have seen looks very good. I can not test HDR because my receiver wont pass HDR (or at least that is what Roku said when I plugged it to the Denon Receiver). When setting up the Roku, it actually tests if it will support the video you ask it to transmit and when plugged to the receiver it said it could not pass HDCP 2.2. When I plug the Roku directly to the TV, it passes every test.
Thus the best solution I can think of right now is to:
1 Get a new receiver that supports HDR and all latest video formats.
2 Connect all sources to new receiver and receiver to TV (go back to TV as a dumb screen).
3 Connect audio out of TV to the receiver via optical. The HDMI Extender from AV Access has optical in and out (have not tried that yet) that would allow to send Dolby Digital 5.1 back to receiver when using the TV apps. HDMI's promise of "one cable" went down the drain, dusting off those Toslink cables I almost throw away a couple of weeks ago.
Before paying $1000+ for an HDMI extender with good ARC from Atlona or Gefen, I am better off upgrading my receiver to a newer model that supports all video formats and route all sources this way. When my wife and kids want to use the TV apps (it is simpler to be honest), they can just listen to Dolby Digital.
Any other ideas why the extender may be only supporting PCM 2.0 back from TV to receiver?