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So in process of designing smart home for house we are buying. I do like the Ubiquiti cameras but they are a tad expensive. Anything else a slightly less expensive that performs well? Thanks.

Seems like Swann or Reolink might be good alternatives.

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Did you decide on an automation controller yet?
That is the first decision.
Cameras comes later if you want things to be compatible.

Automation control system then NVR, then camera, then wiring, then installation. In that order.
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Did you decide on an automation controller yet?

That is the first decision.

Cameras comes later if you want things to be compatible.



Automation control system then NVR, then camera, then wiring, then installation. In that order.


Dahua International models

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www.ipcamtalk.com




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yes. this and only this.

Ubiquiti cameras are not worth the price.
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So in process of designing smart home for house we are buying. I do like the Ubiquiti cameras but they are a tad expensive. Anything else a slightly less expensive that performs well? Thanks.

Seems like Swann or Reolink might be good alternatives.
Swann cameras are locked down to their brand only.
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smooth thanks. going to use either Alexa or Google home hub..if that's what you mean by controller.
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smooth thanks. going to use either Alexa or Google home hub..if that's what you mean by controller.
I would say that's more of a user interface than a true automation controller. Borderline.
But it will get you started. Don't be surprised that you later want to upgrade to a true automation controller.
The problem with that is you would have purchased the expensive stuff (rest of devices) that go with one ecosystem and no other ecosystem is completely compatible. Which then means you will be removing, throwing away, ebaying hardware and redoing stuff.
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I third the recommendation for Dahua cameras and the ipcamtalk forum.

In this instance, I don't agree with camera choice being subservient to NVR and automation controller or hub. Cameras have a very specific purpose and many cameras are simply junk for that purpose. If you can't see well enough to identify someone in broad daylight, much less twilight, much less dark, then you might as well stick a fake camera up there for the deterrent effect and save yourself a whole heck of a lot of money on the rest of the system. Megapixels are near meaningless.

Start with what the proper locations are at your property for cameras. Then figure out the proper camera for the task at that location (ability to ID a face, motion detection, 24hr backup recording, license plate ID, night performance with or without lights etc.). Then look at your cameras and automation controller and see what options there are for NVR that can bridge that gap, if desired. Not that unusual for someone to have a reasonably capable automation system that their security cameras aren't a part of.

One recommendation would be to check out Blue Iris as a software based NVR system. Will handle most any camera and can interface with lots of automation systems, so a pretty good and inexpensive tool to bridge that gap.
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thanks all. Dahua seems to get reviews. Hikevision does as well.
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I third the recommendation for Dahua cameras and the ipcamtalk forum.

In this instance, I don't agree with camera choice being subservient to NVR and automation controller or hub. Cameras have a very specific purpose and many cameras are simply junk for that purpose. If you can't see well enough to identify someone in broad daylight, much less twilight, much less dark, then you might as well stick a fake camera up there for the deterrent effect and save yourself a whole heck of a lot of money on the rest of the system. Megapixels are near meaningless.
The assumption to that recommendation was if one wanted the system to be integrated.
If you don't care about that, then you don't need to plan it as a system.
But what happens very consistently as non-informed users buy stuff and then get more and more interested and get tired of all the seperate "apps" and want to integrate. Then, invariably find that no automation controller integrates with everything so likely some do dad (like a camera, like an NVR) ends up having to be swapped with something that does integrate.

This story is happening more and more as people are now becoming aware of "home automation" having been introduced by Google, HomeDepot, Samsung, Amazon and are then dissatisfied with evolving it beyond the basics.
Our "job" is to help bridge those gaps. It starts with good planning up front to minimize misdirection and rework.
Then certainly you need a system that is up to the task that won't break the bank.

BlueIris is a great tool to help integrate disparate cameras and automation systems. We use it often. Wish there was a Linux build. And also wish that someone would write some neat 360 stitching capability for it (while I was on the wish tangent ).
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No arguments there. If there were a lot of great camera options it would make that easier. But there aren't. Just a couple of brands that do the job well, and dozens that are junk. Unfortunately a lot of what you find in packaged systems is junk.

Yeah, Linux BI would be nice. Not really any good Linux based software VMS unless you want to pony up the $$$$$ for commercial grade.
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I would say that's more of a user interface than a true automation controller. Borderline.
But it will get you started. Don't be surprised that you later want to upgrade to a true automation controller.
The problem with that is you would have purchased the expensive stuff (rest of devices) that go with one ecosystem and no other ecosystem is completely compatible. Which then means you will be removing, throwing away, ebaying hardware and redoing stuff.
Thanks. Are there any good controllers out there that are less expensive than Control4? Thanks

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Thanks. Are there any good controllers out there that are less expensive than Control4? Thanks
There's gobs of controllers cheaper than C4. Like, most of them.

I'm running Homeseer on a Windows machine. I like it, but it really depends on what you need and what you feel comfortable with.

I'll second (or third) the recommendation for IPCAmtalk.com. It's a great forum. I have another Windows machine running Blue Iris with about 6 or 8 cameras now. It's a work in progress, but I'm very pleased with it.
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While Ubiquiti networking products are a great ecosystem, I’ve read quite a few gripes about their IP cams, especially given their added overhead cost.

I use a usg, have 5 AP’s, and two managed (overkill) switches, but I rely on a Blue Iris windows box for my 16 cameras and I love it.
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