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Darbee DVP-5100CIE Image-Enhancement Processor at CEDIA 2014



Darbee first announced the next generation of its popular image-enhancement processor at CES last January, but now it's about ready to ship some time in the fourth quarter of 2014. The DVP-5100CIE (Custom Install Edition) offers the same processing as the original DVP-5000 Darblet in a rack-mountable housing with all connections on the rear panel, making it much easier to install. It also provides a USB port for field upgradability.

But perhaps the most important new feature is what Darbee calls PhaseHD technology, which assures bulletproof HDMI handshaking. Even better, it allows HDMI cable lengths up to 150 feet! The demo in Darbee's booth included an Oppo BDP-103 connected to a DVP-5100CIE with a 30-meter HDMI cable and another 6-foot HDMI cable from the processor to a Samsung 50" LED-LCD UHDTV; the image was rock solid with no sign of any HDMI problems, such as sparklies, which can appear if the cable is too long.

Like its predecessor, the DVP-5100CIE works on signals up to 1080p (not UHD), so the TV was doing the upscaling. The processor was set to 90%, and a vertical line swept back and forth across the screen with the processing engaged on one side of the line; this allowed viewers to compare the processed and unprocessed image. As I've come to expect from Darbee, the improvement in detail and depth was obvious, though perhaps a bit overdone; I generally set my Darblet at 50% or so.

In another part of the booth, an Oppo BDP-105D (with integrated Darbee processing) was playing footage from the Spears & Munsil HD Benchmark Second Edition Blu-ray on a Sony UHDTV; the TV's X-Reality Engine image-enhancement feature enabled. Again, a vertical line swept back and forth across the screen with Darbee processing active on one side of the line. The difference between the two images was not as dramatic in some cases, but obvious in others, such as sandy ground, flowers, and water. According to the company rep I spoke with, the Darbee circuit does not process parts of the image that don't need it, which is why it can work hand in hand with other processors.

The DVP-5100CIE will ship in the fourth quarter of this year for a list price of $499, and I'm sure it will find a home in many home theaters.

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Well, the price certainly is attractive. I thought it would be more like $1499. How well does this process work on 480i upscaled material? Does it do anything useful, or just add annoying artifacts?
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It doesn't do much on SD sources IMO (there are some who disagree). The effect is more noticeable on HD content.

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Would be more interested in this if it was future-proofed for UHD. My Darblet is working fine in the meantime.

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So is this just the same old Darblet we all know and love in a rack mount box?
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It doesn't do much on SD sources IMO (there are some who disagree). The effect is more noticeable on HD content.
OK, thanks. I still watch a lot of older SD material.

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So is this just the same old Darblet we all know and love in a rack mount box?
Yep - I believe that is what it tis (basically).
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Is there a plan for UHD darbee processor?
The darblet gave me a few extra years outta my 2008 Sony VW60.
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So is this just the same old Darblet we all know and love in a rack mount box?
Thats a lot of space left in the box then

Why didnt they make it a switch or matrix or splitter.
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So is this just the same old Darblet we all know and love in a rack mount box?
The processing is the same, but the new model adds PhaseHD, which allows amazingly long HDMI cable runs, up to 150 feet! Plus, it has a USB port for firmware updates.
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So is this just the same old Darblet we all know and love in a rack mount box?
Currently it's the same as the 5000 but with PhaseHD technology added so you can run up to 100ft HDMI. It will also be field firmware upgradeable with the possibility of having Kordz two-ended Neo:3 system.

I've requested a unit to be reviewed, just waiting for an OK from Adam or Larry.

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Use with Calibration

Hello,
I'm getting the SONY 850W 70" 1080P tv and I'm going to have it professionally calibrated. I'm going to purchase the new rack mountable Darbee 5100. Do I setup and use the Darbee before the calibration or after the calibration is done?

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It makes no difference. Darbee process doesn't shift your calibration at all

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I was excited to upgrade my Darblet until I found out that the 5100 still only has one measly HDMI input ... ... I've tried 3 different HDMI switchers (including my AVR) with my Darblet with no success ... sigh.

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Does the Darbe go between your AVR, and projector or is it used between your source, and AVR?
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Any further word on availability?
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Any further word on availability?
As posted in a different 5100 thread (there is more than one in this forum) it will start shipping in December.

http://www.cs1.net/products/darbeevi...VP-5100CIE.htm

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DVP-5100CIE "Custom Installer Edition


I signed up for the
DarbeeVision Indiegogo Campaign and got an email this morning that it is shipping next month, December

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Still waiting December is almost history any further word on a release date?
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Does the Darbe go between your AVR, and projector or is it used between your source, and AVR?

You can use it whichever way you want to use it. But there is only 1 input and 1 output. So if you connect to a source, none of your other sources will benefit. If you want all sources to have Darbee processing, you would have to have 1 5100 (or earlier model) Darbee processor for each source.


If you connect the output of the AVR or processor to the 5100, all output from the AVR or processor would be processed on the way to the video display. So most people would put it on the output of the AVR or processor.


The HDMI processing, though, would be more useful if any problematic source component, processor, or display could be connected to the 5100... I currently have a surround processor, a laptop, a video processor, and a projector that have finicky HDMI issues with each other... would be nice to get rid of all the issues with something like this but with just a single in and out, I'd need several of them.
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email on delivery status just received:

Dear Mark:

I am very sorry to report that we ran into a few more unforeseen problems that have set us back a few weeks in production and shipment. I am very sorry for the delay but it is looking like it will take a few more weeks before they are able to be shipped out. I know this is not good news to hear that there is another delay, but I am happy to tell you that the shipment date is near and that soon you will be getting an email from us with that tracking number for your brand new, fresh off the production line, DVP-5100 CIE. Again, I am very sorry for the delay. If there is anything I can do in the meantime please do not hesitate to contact me at any time.

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I have been told by my UK dealer that this unit will be shipping in the next 2 weeks.
I have been hearing two weeks for several months now...

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^^^

If you look back over earlier posts in this thread, you will see in November it was promised for December shipment: all I am saying is they have missed several promised dates...

I pre ordered one through the group funding and am anxious to see this product released

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email just received:

DVP-5100CIE Shipments Are Almost Ready

The end of the 5100CIE delay is nigh!
We have the cases in, and have begun assembly. There is some assembly time and testing that needs to be done, but we hope to be shipping within a week or two.

If you haven't already, and want to get your unit from the very first batch (supplies are very limited due to the large number of preorders), please send this PO form back to [email protected] with how many you would like, and where you want the unit(s) sent to.


I would also like to thank everyone for their patience, understanding, and support during the process of getting the DVP-5100CIE to market.

Feel free to contact me anytime by responding to this email or calling me at (714) 865-0691. Thank you very much for your time, and interest in our products and I look forward to hearing how much you love your new device. Have a great day.

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I received the same email. I have waited this long and I am skeptical that all the bugs have been worked out (assuming that is what caused the delays). I will wait to see how they are performing and place my order after everyone provides feedback.

I have a current Darbee Darblet and it is buggy regarding HDMI output / handshake issues. I am really hoping the inclusion of the Phase HD technology will allow me to use the 5100 with my JVC 4910 that has an approximate 30ft HDMI run.
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I'm getting the SONY 850W 70" 1080P tv and I'm going to have it professionally calibrated. I'm going to purchase the new rack mountable Darbee 5100. Do I setup and use the Darbee before the calibration or after the calibration is done?

Thank you
How close do you sit to your 70" screen? I sit 13.5 ft from my 2.39:1 projector screen (127" equivalent 16x9). The Darbee (I currently have the Oppo with Darbee processing built in) does give me the look of the image being razor sharp, but the effect will diminish as you move further from the screen. I love the fact that I can have a fairly large projector screen with an image that "tack" sharp.
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so here we are 4 weeks from the email that says they will start shipping in 1-2 weeks

anyone got their unit yet?

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im about to bag this, you would think they would realize its better to say its gonna be 6 months, then a couple more weeks every 2 months
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