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Last night my son watched a movie by himself, and said he did not notice the intermittent audio/video blanking, so maybe the firmware update I applied to the Radiance Pro on Wednesday changed something for my particular setup. We will have to wait and see now.



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Hey guys, got strange issue.
I'm playing ripped UHD disc from OPPO UDP-203 Network, its DTS VOL 22 demo disc, and it sends audio as Stereo, audio track is DTS-HD 7.1 however it does send it as Stereo.
I'm hooking it via Lumagen and Audio goes from Lumagen to my AVR DENON X3500H, I know this is not AVR issue as I can play the same source from X9S ZIDOO box and it does play in DTS-HD and not in Stereo, X9S is hooked via Lumagen and the same cable goes from HDMI OUT 1 to feed the audio, and AVR does receive it as DTS-HD.
Only from Oppo it does play stereo only, I've tried setting in Audio output settings to Bitstream, but absolutely the same, all movies are played in stereo.
I have latest firmware checked via network update.
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I had this problem where all my sources were sending two channel audio.

the fix was to use the shortcut (menu, 0943) which will report all audio formats back to the sources.

If that works, then you have to save.

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I had this problem where all my sources were sending two channel audio.

the fix was to use the shortcut (menu, 0943) which will report all audio formats back to the sources.

If that works, then you have to save.
The issue described I believe usually occurs if you don't have a device connected to the Audio only HDMI output, and are only using the Video+Audio HDMI outs - it causes a stereo only EDID to be sent to the sources. Is that what you are doing?

This seems counter intuitive to me; in the absence of a device attached to the Audio HDMI out I would have thought it would make more sense to copy the Audio part of the EDID from the active video HDMI. Having said that the workaround is relatively simple (menu command mentioned).
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There have been a few high-end audio processors that have had issues with the Pro audio output. These have been (as best we can determine) that the audio processor is not processing all needed audio interrupts for the Pro's "audio only" output (and instead depending on video interrupts to know when to change the audio mode which does not work with an "audio only" stream since the blank video carrying the audio does not change), or HDMI circuit designs that need an active cable because they cannot deal with the fast edge rates of the Radiance Pro audio only output. Or, as another example, one high end audio product's switch board (which is used in a number of high end audio products) was reporting that the 6 Channel PCM it was receiving was 6 channel PCM as it should, but only processing the left and right channels. Patrick figured out how to have the Pro output kick the audio processor switch board just right to wake it up and get it to not only report the 6 channels, but also to process all of them. Fortunately we have now worked around the audio processor audio issues we know about. I mention these in case something new pops up with a different product.

Finally, as always, I strongly recommend 18 GHz Certified HDMI cables for all connections. This includes the "audio only" output from the Pro even though it is running at an HD rate. This is because transmission-line theory says it is the edge rate that matters most for required cable quality, rather than video rate (which does matter but not as much). Also avoid passive HDMI cables less than 2 meters long (especially for audio) as the signal can be too hot due to cable EQ. I recommend Tributaries "Certified" 2 to 3 meter UHDP passives, or for the long run from the Pro output the Tributaries UHDT "Titan" cables.
Interesting.

I use a Monoprice certified 18 GHz HDMI cable from Radiance Pro audio only HDMI output to my Theta Casablanca IVA SSP. With the CBIVA having the prior HDMI 1.4 card, and now the current and latest HDMI 2.0 card, whenever I start up the SSP, I often find I need to turn it off from the back for a few seconds and then back on from the back, and then turn back on from standby on the front, to get an audio lock with DirecTV and sometimes other audio/AV sources as well. Jim, are you saying that this latest technology passive Tributaries HDMI cable may help this?

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Hey guys, got strange issue.
I'm playing ripped UHD disc from OPPO UDP-203 Network, its DTS VOL 22 demo disc, and it sends audio as Stereo, audio track is DTS-HD 7.1 however it does send it as Stereo.
There is an audio selection button on the Oppo remote which should allow you to switch music tracks.
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There is an audio selection button on the Oppo remote which should allow you to switch music tracks.
I have already resolved that issue, this was Lumagen.
The input HDMI config for audio been set to Passback, but my output is set to output 2 , I've set to common and all worked as expected, so now it detects audio from oppo as needed.
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I have that disc and when played from either my Oppo 203 or Panasonic UB820, my Denon X6400H reports DTS:X MSTR audio. Does the same issue occur if you play the physical disc instead of the UHD folder?

Update: I created a UHD folder backup of my disc and played it with my Oppo. AVR reports DTS:X MSTR just like it did for the disc. Option button on the Oppo remote shows just one audio format: DTS:HD MA 7.1.

Oppo audio is set to Bitstream.
Secondary Audio is set to Off.
So now works great.
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I had this problem where all my sources were sending two channel audio.

the fix was to use the shortcut (menu, 0943) which will report all audio formats back to the sources.

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Hi Mark,

Thank you I've resolved that problem yesterday, exactly. This command sets to report common audio modes to all sources.
By default the Audio EDID is set to passback, this will only work when you connect Audio output from Output 1 on Lumagen to your AVR.
Now when I connected my Audio Output 1 to AVR, because I'm hooking from Monitor2 into Lumagen Input 3, I think there was that Loop issue described by Jim, so the work around was to hook Audio from Output 2 and Set Audio EDID to Report Common to all devices, this has resolved the audio problems for Oppo and also I'm able to see the Denon OSD and main menu from the Input 3 without Authentication loop issue.

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The issue described I believe usually occurs if you don't have a device connected to the Audio only HDMI output, and are only using the Video+Audio HDMI outs - it causes a stereo only EDID to be sent to the sources. Is that what you are doing?

This seems counter intuitive to me; in the absence of a device attached to the Audio HDMI out I would have thought it would make more sense to copy the Audio part of the EDID from the active video HDMI. Having said that the workaround is relatively simple (menu command mentioned).
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Hi Mark,

Thank you I've resolved that problem yesterday, exactly. This command sets to report common audio modes to all sources.
By default the Audio EDID is set to passback, this will only work when you connect Audio output from Output 1 on Lumagen to your AVR.
Now when I connected my Audio Output 1 to AVR, because I'm hooking from Monitor2 into Lumagen Input 3, I think there was that Loop issue described by Jim, so the work around was to hook Audio from Output 2 and Set Audio EDID to Report Common to all devices, this has resolved the audio problems for Oppo and also I'm able to see the Denon OSD and main menu from the Input 3 without Authentication loop issue.
Thanks guys. I always wondered why I needed to do this command to get multi-channel audio, and now I know.

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Thanks guys. I always wondered why I needed to do this command to get multi-channel audio, and now I know.
Yes, it is different I believe to how the 2143 used to work; if I'm honest I preferred the Audio EDID management setup in the older units as it was much more explicit; was nice to be able to arbitrarily toggle all the formats for a given input. The stereo thing got me when I first set up my unit, the Pro behaviour is quite counter-intuitive.
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I noted in the test pattern tech tips it states that "The test patterns can be used for calibrating displays and 3D glasses.."

I researched this lightly, and did find in the Radiance (non-Pro) manual the below mention, but it would appear this is for CRT projectors, and perhaps modern displays do not require any calibration of 3D glasses?

3D Glasses Adjust
When using the Radiance to control 3D glasses timing, such as with a CRT projector, this setting adjusts the timing offset of the 3D glasses. This delay is combined with the global delay setting under the MENU → Other → I/O Setup → 3D Glasses menu. This command has no effect if the 3D display is controlling the 3D glasses.

In the event that calibrating 3D glasses is possible / required on modern displays, does anyone know which specific pattern(s) would be used for this, and how that is accomplished? I assume the display 3D settings would need to be adjusted while viewing the test patterns.

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Hi,

as far as you know, will a horizontal keystone be implemented in the PRO?

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Is anyone using a Denon AVR-X3500H with the Pro?

I am experiencing intermittent audio/video blanking that lasts around 10 seconds with multiple sources.

I also have a 50 foot Ruipro hybrid fiber cable in between the pro and the AVR, so was thinking that component may be the cause. I am using an HDMI voltage inserter on the cable at the Pro output, because without it the video signal flashes repeatedly. I attempted to move the HDMI voltage inserter to the sink end (the AVR input) yesterday, but that caused constant audio issues.
I am probably duplicating other replies, but I recommend getting rid of the voltage-inserter between the Pro and the RUIPRO. The Pro has plenty of HDMI standby output power to drive the RUIPRO, and the inserter is nothing more than a discontinuity in the HDMI transmission lines. The discontinuity it creates may be the cause of your dropouts, and in any case is a bad idea for a 4k HDMI connection.

I recommend against fiber cables for connections carrying audio since they tend to have more jitter than metal only HDMI cables. I also recommend against such a long cable for audio. Audio is much more sensitive than video for HDMI. If you need to go 50 feet from the Pro for the output carrying audio I recommend the Tributaries UHDT "Titan" all metal cable. I do not have any jitter data on this versus the RUIPRO but I have noticed the HDMI connection locks faster using the UHDT than the RUIPRO. I believe this is in part due to it having less jitter, but might just be it is a clean signal. Either way I prefer the Tributaries Titan, especially for audio connections, while still recommending the RUIPRO as an excellent cable.

It sounds like you pass video through the AVR. I recommend the Pro drive the Projector/TV directly and not through the AVR. I suspect if you send video from the Pro to the TV/projector directly, and audio to the AVR, both using Titan cables, you will improve your reliability. Of course I cannot be certain, but this change in connectivity has resolved dropouts in other systems.
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If you need to go 50 feet from the Pro for the output carrying audio I recommend the Tributaries UHDT "Titan" all metal cable
What do you recommend for shorter distances...say 2 meters?
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I am probably duplicating other replies, but I recommend getting rid of the voltage-inserter between the Pro and the RUIPRO. The Pro has plenty of HDMI standby output power to drive the RUIPRO, and the inserter is nothing more than a discontinuity in the HDMI transmission lines. The discontinuity it creates may be the cause of your dropouts, and in any case is a bad idea for a 4k HDMI connection.



I recommend against fiber cables for connections carrying audio since they tend to have more jitter than metal only HDMI cables. I also recommend against such a long cable for audio. Audio is much more sensitive than video for HDMI. If you need to go 50 feet from the Pro for the output carrying audio I recommend the Tributaries UHDT "Titan" all metal cable. I do not have any jitter data on this versus the RUIPRO but I have noticed the HDMI connection locks faster using the UHDT than the RUIPRO. I believe this is in part due to it having less jitter, but might just be it is a clean signal. Either way I prefer the Tributaries Titan, especially for audio connections, while still recommending the RUIPRO as an excellent cable.



It sounds like you pass video through the AVR. I recommend the Pro drive the Projector/TV directly and not through the AVR. I suspect if you send video from the Pro to the TV/projector directly, and audio to the AVR, both using Titan cables, you will improve your reliability. Of course I cannot be certain, but this change in connectivity has resolved dropouts in other systems.


Thanks Jim.

I will try removing it again, but the two times I have tried to remove the voltage inserter previously, there is constant flashing of the signal on and off. I should probably try different HDMI inputs on the AVR to make it a thorough test.

The reason for testing the other inputs is that Denon has recommended in the past with other AVR’s to use the HDMI input that is physically closest to the output to mitigate issues with 4K HDR source devices.

I want the AVR volume display on my TV and am willing to live with some compromises to achieve that goal.

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What do you say Jim, frame-based intensity mapping as a nice Christmas gift???
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Interesting.

I use a Monoprice certified 18 GHz HDMI cable from Radiance Pro audio only HDMI output to my Theta Casablanca IVA SSP. With the CBIVA having the prior HDMI 1.4 card, and now the current and latest HDMI 2.0 card, whenever I start up the SSP, I often find I need to turn it off from the back for a few seconds and then back on from the back, and then turn back on from standby on the front, to get an audio lock with DirecTV and sometimes other audio/AV sources as well. Jim, are you saying that this latest technology passive Tributaries HDMI cable may help this?
No, the Tributaries cables will not help with the problem you describe, unless you also have dropouts while watching a program. Then it might help. However I think your issue likely missing HDMI audio interrupts in the Theta.

If you have a 9 GHz output available use MENU 0943 and a save to "enable common audio formats" (if you have not already. Entering this if already enabled goes back to pass-back audio EDID from device on Output 1).

Then connect the 9 GHz output to the Theta, and enable both audio and video on that output using the Output Setup Menu, and then Save. If the issue with the Theta is missing HDMI audio interrupt processing, you should then get solid audio switching.

If this does not help try going back to the audio-only output but insert a 1-to-2 1080p HDMI splitter. Use the 2 meter Monoprice from the Pro to the splitter, and another Monoprice 2 meter from the splitter out 1 to the Theta. If this helps then the issue is a transmission line issue in the HDMI input of the Theta.

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What do you recommend for shorter distances...say 2 meters?
For passive HDMI cables I recommend:

Always use 18 GHz Certified cable no matter the actual connection speed.

Never use less than a 2 meter passive. HDMI has static cable EQ which is designed for longer cable so the signal on a shorter cable can be too hot for the receiver. This is especially true for audio and I likely have one or more systems a month where going from a 1 meter to a two meter passive fixes the issues.

For 4k I recommend a 2 to 3 meter length using an 18 GHz HDMI cable.

I recommend against longer than 3 meter passives with some exceptions. This is actually more an input design issue in products than a cable issue. For example I have a number of tests using an eight-meter 18 GHz passive HDMI cable from sources to the Radiance Pro at 18 GHz and it passed my testing. However the same source and cable to TVs has not worked at 18 GHz. Note this is not an exhaustive test by any means. Also, please understand I do not recommend using an eight-meter passive for 18 GHz, but in some cases a 4 or 5 meter 18 GHz passive cable can be used for well designed products at 18 GHz.

[EDIT]: I see I didn't make specific recommendations. For 2 to 3 meter passive I recommend Tributaries UHDP cables. They are excellent both mechanically and electrically and not outrageously expensive. I really like the way the UHDP cables are retained in the HDMI jack. Based on how good I think they are Lumagen is now a dealer for Tributaries cables. I also recommend the Ethereal Velox, and the Monoprice 18 GHz certified HDMI cables. There are other good 18 GHz certified cables, but these are the three I recommend.
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I don't like to post schedules since things always take longer than expected.

That said, we are making progress on dynamic tone mapping. So there is a chance for the first "Alpha Level" dynamic tone mapping release will be this year. Certainly not a "schedule" and it may be into next year before we have this in a release. Sorry that's the best i can give as to time frame.

Note that as I have said before there will likely be ongoing tuning releases since this is a rather difficult task.
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I noted in the test pattern tech tips it states that "The test patterns can be used for calibrating displays and 3D glasses.."

I researched this lightly, and did find in the Radiance (non-Pro) manual the below mention, but it would appear this is for CRT projectors, and perhaps modern displays do not require any calibration of 3D glasses?

3D Glasses Adjust
When using the Radiance to control 3D glasses timing, such as with a CRT projector, this setting adjusts the timing offset of the 3D glasses. This delay is combined with the global delay setting under the MENU → Other → I/O Setup → 3D Glasses menu. This command has no effect if the 3D display is controlling the 3D glasses.
This feature was specific to CRT projectors.

For digital projectors and TVs the 3D glasses timing is controlled by the projector or TV.

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I don't like to post schedules since things always take longer than expected.

That said, we are making progress on dynamic tone mapping. So there is a chance for the first "Alpha Level" dynamic tone mapping release will be this year. Certainly not a "schedule" and it may be into next year before we have this in a release. Sorry that's the best i can give as to time frame.

Note that as I have said before there will likely be ongoing tuning releases since this is a rather difficult task.
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as far as you know, will a horizontal keystone be implemented in the PRO?

Thanks.
I requested this a long time ago. The answer I got was: " It is not easy to implement"

For us cinemascope users that would be an absolute fantastic feature....
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Arrow FW Beta 111518

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php...ncepro_updates

Beta 111518
Improves or fixes several deficits in image based auto aspect detection.
Fix for sometimes missing MaxCll detection from HDR sources and also cases of not changing the colorspace when HDR/SDR changes occur.
Added another rs232 report for only SDR/HDR under Other: I/O Setup: RS-232 Setup : Report changes.
If set to SDR/HDR 'S' or 'H' will be output on rs232 for SDR or HDR respectively.
Please continue giving us your detailed feedback on issues via email at [email protected] .
Update time ~5 minutes @230k from previous firmware

EDIT:

** NOTE: Don't install 111518 ***

Beta 111618
Fixed saving bug in 111518.
Improves or fixes several deficits in image based auto aspect detection.
Fix for sometimes missing MaxCll detection from HDR sources and also cases of not changing the colorspace when HDR/SDR changes occur which were issues in 1101-111018 firmware.
Added another rs232 report for only SDR/HDR under Other: I/O Setup: RS-232 Setup : Report changes.
If set to SDR/HDR 'S' or 'H' will be output on rs232 for SDR or HDR respectively.
Please continue giving us your detailed feedback on issues via email at [email protected] .
Update time ~5 minutes @230k from previous firmware


Bug with 111518
Saving menu changes caused units to hang and corrupted the configuration.
If you've updated to 111518 already then don't save any configuration changes and to update you'll need to do a bootloader update which means unplugging power, then replugging power and starting the update utility in ~10 seconds.
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Some problems. 1.85 aspect ratio doesn't work anymore, sometimes saving data configuration hangs the Radiance and you have to unplug from AC, image has a permanent black border in top and and bottom.
Tried to restore previous firmware but it hangs while "UsingFPGA loc00". I tried normal and Forced.
Does anybody have an idea how can I restore it to previous firmware?
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if it can be helpful, here is the log:

Status: Connect to Lumagen Video Processor...
Status: Set communication speed...
Status: Connected
Status: Checking firmware version...
Status: RX fw ver = 1161300, rd:01161300
Status: TX fw ver = 1000900, rd:01000900 txlen=286720
Status: NTX fw ver = 1001200, rd:01001200 txlen=286720
Status: 01001200 SW Rev:111518 Serial:3487 baud rate:115200
This updater is Rev:111018
This updater is Rev:111018
Status: Checking the mode of communication...
Status: We are in normal operation mode
Using FPGA loc:00
Status: erase failed.
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Now it can't definitely save configuration any more. It always hangs on "Press 'OK' to confirm saving configuration Saving…..please wait"
I have to unplug AC
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You need to make a bootloader firmware restore.

1. Turn the Radiance power off by unplugging the AC power cord or unplugging the power cord from the back of the Radiance.
2. On the PC double click (run) the download utility.
3. Choose the correct Com port.
4. Plug in the Radiance power cord.
5. Within 10 seconds, click “Start” to begin the download.
6. The firmware update will start updating which can take a couple minutes. The PC
utility will finish and tell you when it’s done.
7. If the utility finishes with and error; just turn the Radiance off, then back on and
rerun the download utility
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You need to make a bootloader firmware restore.

1. Turn the Radiance power off by unplugging the AC power cord or unplugging the power cord from the back of the Radiance.
2. On the PC double click (run) the download utility.
3. Choose the correct Com port.
4. Plug in the Radiance power cord.
5. Within 10 seconds, click “Start” to begin the download.
6. The firmware update will start updating which can take a couple minutes. The PC
utility will finish and tell you when it’s done.
7. If the utility finishes with and error; just turn the Radiance off, then back on and
rerun the download utility
Thank you Eventidal, you solved it! It downgraded perfectly but I had to reload a configuration backup because colors were completely nonsense like cross-processed film.

Thank you very much for your help.
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Arrow FW Beta 111618

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php...ncepro_updates

Beta 111618
Fixed saving bug in 111518.
Improves or fixes several deficits in image based auto aspect detection.
Fix for sometimes missing MaxCll detection from HDR sources and also cases of not changing the colorspace when HDR/SDR changes occur which were issues in 1101-111018 firmware.
Added another rs232 report for only SDR/HDR under Other: I/O Setup: RS-232 Setup : Report changes.
If set to SDR/HDR 'S' or 'H' will be output on rs232 for SDR or HDR respectively.
Please continue giving us your detailed feedback on issues via email at [email protected] .
Update time ~5 minutes @230k from previous firmware


Bug with 111518
Saving menu changes caused units to hang and corrupted the configuration.
If you've updated to 111518 already then don't save any configuration changes and to update you'll need to do a bootloader update which means unplugging power, then replugging power and starting the update utility in ~10 seconds.

HT: Oppo UDP-203 -> Lumagen RadiancePro 4446 {18 GHz input x2 & 18 GHz output x1 cards} - "new (112818 FW)" 18 GHz microcode - parallel outs to --> [Audio: Denon 5308CI] --> [Video: JVC RS520 FW v30.1]
HT Details: link
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