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What's the deal with this latest bunch of firmwares? Can't recall seeing so many replacements so quickly. Not sure I want to update.
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FW updates 062217-062617

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http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php...ncepro_updates

Beta 062317
(replaced 062217 due to small osd issue)
Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause of loss of video output.
Fixed a bug causing output mask not to work.
Improvements to HDR intensity mapping.
Please continue giving us your detailed feedback on issues via email at [email protected] .
Update time ~1 minutes @230k from previous firmware


Is there a way we can sign up to get notified of updates?
Since not tied into a network notification, need to check AVS or the primary support site to see it.

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7/2/17 6:30pm - That FW just left screen (after I just updated it on Lumagen). FW must have been pulled for another one?
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some folk are having problems with it. they are working on fix
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http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php...ncepro_updates

Beta 062517
(replaced 062217-062317)
Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause of loss of video output.
Fixed a bug causing output mask not to work.
Improvements to HDR intensity mapping.
Please continue giving us your detailed feedback on issues via email at [email protected] .
Update time ~1 minutes @230k from previous firmware
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http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php...ncepro_updates

Beta 062617
(replaced 062217-062517)
Fixed a display EDID issue that would prevent Pro from automatically using an 18Ghz output mode for some displays (Sony5000 projector being notable case) so the Pro would use 4k60 with 420 color when it should of used 4k60 422.
Fixed an issue that could sometimes cause of loss of video output.
Fixed a bug causing output mask not to work.
Improvements to HDR intensity mapping.
Please continue giving us your detailed feedback on issues via email at [email protected] .
Update time ~1 minutes @230k from previous firmware
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What's the deal with this latest bunch of firmwares? Can't recall seeing so many replacements so quickly. Not sure I want to update.
Looks like small system specific issues.
I have been so busy with outside activities that I have updated FW without viewing content after FW update.
Hopefully all works.
Watching last two episodes of Game of Thrones Season 6 tonight to prep for new season.

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Arrow FW Beta 070117

http://www.lumagen.com/testindex.php...ncepro_updates

Beta 070117
Fixed up auto input selection which is enabled and configured in the menu under Other: I/O Setup: Auto Select .
Added Dobly Atmos flag to the global common audio formats (if you've already enabled common audio formats with "menu 0943" the Atmos flag will now be present).
Not all audio sources needed to see the Atmos flag but some sources do.
Fixed up a bug in 062617 which could cause no video on output.
Please continue giving us your detailed feedback on issues via email at [email protected] .
Update time ~1 minutes @230k from previous firmware

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Not sure if it's just me but I've had major sync issues with my 5000 since both the 6/26 and 7/1 updates. Rolled back to 6/1 and everything appears back to normal. I have a 4242 all 18g ports.


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Not sure if it's just me but I've had major sync issues with my 5000 since both the 6/26 and 7/1 updates. Rolled back to 6/1 and everything appears back to normal. I have a 4242 all 18g ports.


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I assume you mean audio/video lipsync. I just tried to play a 4k hdr stream from Fandango and the audio was more than a minute behind the video.

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I assume you mean audio/video lipsync. I just tried to play a 4k hdr stream from Fandango and the audio was more than a minute behind the video.
no i think he meant syncing of video to the VW5000
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no i think he meant syncing of video to the VW5000

Yes...sorry if I was confusing yes could not sync video until I rolled back to 6/1


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Video Syn Problem

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Not sure if it's just me but I've had major sync issues with my 5000 since both the 6/26 and 7/1 updates. Rolled back to 6/1 and everything appears back to normal. I have a 4242 all 18g ports.


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Could not video-sync at all or "problems" syncing?
Describe the problem(s).

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Could not video-sync at all or "problems" syncing?

Describe the problem(s).



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Video sync was very difficult and often times required turning everything off and on several times to obtain. Even once sync occurred image would flash in and out quite often. Then if I tried to change sources from say KScape Strato to Comcast the video sync again required turning things on and off several times and even then left me without image for long periods of time. I'm talking long enough to where 5000 would go to standby mode.


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Video sync was very difficult and often times required turning everything off and on several times to obtain. Even once sync occurred image would flash in and out quite often. Then if I tried to change sources from say KScape Strato to Comcast the video sync again required turning things on and off several times and even then left me without image for long periods of time. I'm talking long enough to where 5000 would go to standby mode.


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Has anyone installed the 070117 firmware and had NO sync issues, especially with a 5000ES? I was about to install tonight, can understand that some people might have issues, but would feel better if others have had uneventful installations
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Has anyone installed the 070117 firmware and had NO sync issues, especially with a 5000ES? I was about to install tonight, can understand that some people might have issues, but would feel better if others have had uneventful installations
I installed it.
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Sync takes a while with my chain (Oppo 203 -> Lumagen -> JVC) but it worked.
I have also (somewhat) recently updated the FW in JVC RS520 to latest and updated to latest Oppo FW.

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I installed it.
Gear in signature.
Sync takes a while with my chain (Oppo 203 -> Lumagen -> JVC) but it worked.
I have also (somewhat) recently updated the FW in JVC RS520 to latest and updated to latest Oppo FW.

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Thanks Mike, it sounds like you made a few changes at once? Is the increase sync/handshake time notably longer with current firmware? I have Oppo 203 --> Lumagen --> Sony 5000.

Sounds like there might be a few more kinks to work out?
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Thanks Mike, it sounds like you made a few changes at once? Is the increase sync/handshake time notably longer with current firmware? I have Oppo 203 --> Lumagen --> Sony 5000.

Sounds like there might be a few more kinks to work out?
Clarification: I haven't noted any new syncing problems with latest FW.
Was just trying to point out the many links in the chain for most of us -- and in my case different FW updates.
The JVC sync time seems long. Not sure if the newest JVC FW fixed that.
The Lumagen FW seems stable for me.
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Hi, Im considering getting the Lumagen Pro for my 4K setup as I have an A-Lens and because of the recent HDR intensity mapping capabilities, also would like to get the best out of my VW520 HDR capability.
I have an Xrite i1 Pro that I purchased from Amazon a couple years back and Chromapure 2.x with Autocal licence. I am not sure if I should upgrade to Chromapure 3.x or get LightSpace as that has been talked about a bit in this forum. Does LightSpace have an Autocalibration feature? There's several versions, which version works with the Radiance Pro?

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Hi, Im considering getting the Lumagen Pro for my 4K setup as I have an A-Lens and because of the recent HDR intensity mapping capabilities, also would like to get the best out of my VW520 HDR capability.
I have an Xrite i1 Pro that I purchased from Amazon a couple years back and Chromapure 2.x with Autocal licence. I am not sure if I should upgrade to Chromapure 3.x or get LightSpace as that has been talked about a bit in this forum. Does LightSpace have an Autocalibration feature? There's several versions, which version works with the Radiance Pro?

Thanks
I use LightSpace Pro and have for many years. I also have a Pro 444x and LightSpace works like a charm with the 444x for auto cal and as a pattern generator for any size triplet window patterns and APL from 0 to 100%.

All you do is run a profile (any size you want), and then use that profile to experiment with color spaces to tone mapping when making one or many 3DLUT for the Pro 444x from the same profile. All you need to do is setup your white point, meter, set how many color points you want to profile. Once the profile is done set your color space and tone mapping to make the 3DLUT, LightSpace does the rest with auto cal.

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We need that Gordon Lightspace/Lumagen guide....
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Arrow FW Beta 070217

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Beta 070217
More reliable and faster input switching in some cases than firmware 052017-070117.
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Hi, Im considering getting the Lumagen Pro for my 4K setup as I have an A-Lens and because of the recent HDR intensity mapping capabilities, also would like to get the best out of my VW520 HDR capability.
I have an Xrite i1 Pro that I purchased from Amazon a couple years back and Chromapure 2.x with Autocal licence. I am not sure if I should upgrade to Chromapure 3.x or get LightSpace as that has been talked about a bit in this forum. Does LightSpace have an Autocalibration feature? There's several versions, which version works with the Radiance Pro?

Thanks
Hi,

If you have X-Rite i1PRO (Spectrophotometer) then you will need to get the X-Rite i1Display PRO (Colorimeter) to be able to take measurements for 3D LUT (because stand alone i1PRO is slow and poor at low light measurements), you will use i1PRO as a reference to create a meter correction table (which will improve the colorimeter color accurancy) while i1Display PRO is a lot faster and very good at low light measurements, so having both meters it's be best combo for any home calibration enthusiast.

LightSpace is the oldest software in the market which designed for 3D LUT display characterization, think that they were involved in pro area for 3D LUTs from 2009, no-one knew at HT area that time what was a 3D LUT....ChromaPure released @ August 2009 while CalMAN had version 3.0 out that time
So when LightSpace was creating 3D LUT profilings for thousand color points for movie/film industry (with 1 meter read per color) the same time ChromaPure/CalMAN has able only to measure (graphical presentation what meters was reading, dE calculation, generate graphs from reading) of 11-point Grayscale and simple Gamut readings (6 colors only, RGBCMY).

These facts show exactly how advanced color science LightSpace had before a lot of years for 3D LUT's and can guarantee you professional level of final results.

LightSpace's Chief Colour Scientist is the same person that developed the Colour Pipeline for Industrial Light & Magic (ILM: George's Lukas Motion Picture Effects Company), WETA Digital (Peter's Jackson Visual Effects Company) & Park Road Post (Peter's Jackson Post Production Facilities). Their Chief Colour Scientist was also responsible for the colour science in TrueLight; as you can see there's a large amount of colour science knowledge behind the LightSpace's Engine.

LightSpace is reading one point one only time, so for a 4913 color point 3D LUT it takes 4913 meter readings for example, doing this... LightSpace will know better how your projector/display is responding and about what colors can display and created a virtual model of your display to feed it's engine... The more points you feed it's engine, the greater idea of what your display is capable and what corrections can be applied, so LightSpace generates a correction 3D LUT table at once for all color points together, so it counts linearity of the correction, more smooth, and with better final results, and it will avoid to try to fix something that can't fixed or try extreme corrections to get you low dE somewhere but not good result later validating visually etc.

When you finish the measurement with LightSpace it saves one measurement data file. You use that file to generate the colorspace correction 3D LUT tables. The correction generation takes about 2-3 seconds only. For example you can generate different corrections in a few seconds, with different gamma, for example one correction with 2.2 Gamma, other with 2.3 Gamma other with 2.4 other with BT1886, so from one measurement run you can generate as many colorspace conversion you like, with different gamma values, without needing to take new measurements. When a newer version of LightSpace will be released and you see that at it's release notes the colorspace engine is improved for example, you don't need to take new measurements....you just install the newer LightSpace version, you opening your last measurement data file and you generate the new corrections.

Additionally from November 2016, LightSpace has added HDR Multiplier feature for HDR Projection and custom roll-off parameters which a lot of Lumagen PRO users are using already for HDR 3D LUT generation for projectors. All that time no other calibration company has something to offer similar, this is why LightSpace is the only choice for Lumagen PRO users which work as expected.



The correct license level where you can use any Lumagen processor and i1Display PRO, i1PRO1/2 is the LightSpace HTL, you can contact me for more details here: http://www.displaycalibrations.com/contact_us.html

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Hi,

If you have X-Rite i1PRO (Spectrophotometer) then you will need to get the X-Rite i1Display PRO (Colorimeter) to be able to take measurements for 3D LUT (because stand alone i1PRO is slow and poor at low light measurements), you will use i1PRO as a reference to create a meter correction table (which will improve the colorimeter color accurancy) while i1Display PRO is a lot faster and very good at low light measurements, so having both meters it's be best combo for any home calibration enthusiast.
Thanks for the comprehensive explanation, certainly helps. I only have the X-Rite i1Display Pro (Colorimeter), should I also get a X-Rite i1Pro (Spectrophotometer)? to use with LightSpace?

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Thanks for the comprehensive explanation, certainly helps. I only have the X-Rite i1Display Pro (Colorimeter), should I also get a X-Rite i1Pro (Spectrophotometer)? to use with LightSpace?
Since you have the colorimeter, you can work with that, it can work as stand-alone for 3D LUT, but if you want to improve more it's color accuracy then you have to add i1PRO2.

While i1Display PRO Colorimeter, it's fast, accurate at low light, it's not so good to measure each display spectral characteristics, so for that reason they have add some 4-5 generic tables for each display technology to select (from the factory), so it has OLED,LCD,LED,CRT, Projector selections where you load some generic corrections to fix it's inaccuracy of color measuring. The problem is that each device is unique so even if you measure 10 different projector models, they will have different spectral response, so the best thing is to create a unique correction table for each specific device you need to calibrate. For that reason you need a spectrophotometer like i1PRO2, to create a meter correction table for the i1Display PRO.

So ideally you need to have both meters, one to use it as a reference (i1PRO2) which is a spectrophotometer, so it will be used only initially to create a 4 color matrix correction table (measure White/Red/Green/Blue) with i1PRO2 and then measure the same colors with i1Display PRO (colorimeter) and after that LightSpace will calculate the offset correction, so you will use only the i1Display PRO for the whole calibration. This procedure is something you do initially.

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Since you have the colorimeter, you can work with that, it can work as stand-alone for 3D LUT, but if you want to improve more it's color accuracy then you have to add i1PRO2.

I purchased the following spectrometer i1pro 2 from eBay I hope it's the right one. There's so many different names etc.

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I purchased the following spectrometer i1pro 2 from eBay I hope it's the right one. There's so many different names etc.
Yes, it's fine, you got the correct spectrophotometer.

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Hi guys, for LightSpace users using Lumagen PRO, there some additions related with HDR calibration, since I don't have a Lumagen PRO/Projector combo to test them out, I can provide a download link for any LightSpace user which want to test these new features, if he will send me a msg here: http://www.displaycalibrations.com/contact_us.html



Light Illussion has released a Beta Build of LightSpace CMS 8.0.0.2630 (15 July 2017) which adds some new HDR Tone Mapping Options.

The LightSpace's User Guide has been updated to cover these new options, here: http://www.lightillusion.com/lut_man...ace_conversion)
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Beta 070217
More reliable and faster input switching in some cases than firmware 052017-070117.
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This firmware has eliminated any handshake issues with my Sony 5000 that cropped up recently (as others have noted)
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Every time I look at Lightspace, I go slightly blind...it is so confusing, with so many options (many of which seem completely unnecessary for home theater use) that I can never come close to making the plunge for it.


Plus they can't spell color correctly...


Hopefully a much more streamlined GUI with a better sense of presume workflow will be developed to broaden its appeal, as I do understand it does the job well.
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This firmware has eliminated any handshake issues with my Sony 5000 that cropped up recently (as others have noted)


Yes...70217 seems rock solid!


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I am new to video processor and have a few questions. I have heard about madvr. Is the lumagen pro unit just a standalone unit with similar function to madvr? How is the scaling compared to madvr? Is the intensity mapping feature on a frame by frame basis, thus simulating the Dolby vision/HDR 10+? Can it handle non linear scaling so that i can convert all display to scope format and fill my screen?

What are the advantages of this unit if dolby vision or HDR 10+/dynamic hdr becomes more prevalent?

Thanks for any help you can provide on these questions.
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Every time I look at Lightspace, I go slightly blind...it is so confusing, with so many options (many of which seem completely unnecessary for home theater use) that I can never come close to making the plunge for it.


Plus they can't spell color correctly...


Hopefully a much more streamlined GUI with a better sense of presume workflow will be developed to broaden its appeal, as I do understand it does the job well.
Hopefully, Gordon's upcoming dummy guide for Pro and Lightspace will help. SJ
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