Originally Posted by citsur86
EDIT: Please disregard below! Today i learned that my AVR has a zone 2 output which I can use to output to the projector and use Zone 1 for TV and ARC. so it seems my AVR is capable of doing what I’ve been needing this whole time. I can program my Logitech remote to use the AVR Zone 2 when using the projector.
The primary reason I’m considering a HDFury Vertex is to be able to have one output of the AVR go to both my projector and OLED 4K HDR TV depending on which I’m using (only would use one at any given time). Currently i have to go and switch the HDMI out of the AVR manually from the TVs HDMI to the Projectors HDMI. I would like whatever I’m using to just have it’s max specs showing automatically without the manual HDMI switch.
However, a primary concern is that if I did purchase a Vertex, it would be between the TV/Projector and AVR output. So, my ARC questions were to see how I could still get the same DD+/Atmos from TV to AVR with the Vertex in between. It sounds like the Vertex will accept the HDMI signal from the TV, and then I’ll just need to run an optical cable from the Vertex to the AVR in order to get the DD+/Atmos? If so that should be easy. The cable needed would be a Coaxial SPDIF (Vertex OUT) to Optical SPDIF (AVR IN), right?
If you connect Vertex between AVR and TV, you can still link TV ARC input to your AVR directly. That was my point. I meant, if it's all working fine via HDMI ARC to AVR directly, then it's easier than HDMI ARC to Vertex and then optical to AVR, but as long as your AVR accept 192khz via optical output, then yes, both should work fine. The cable you need is JACK optical to S/PDIF, you can google it. Available from our website too.
Originally Posted by aeneas01
well after spending over a week just to get the vertex to split a 4k signal to a 1080p projector and a 4ktv, and having it finally work, i took a couple of days off from all things av... tonight i settled in to enjoy a 4k dvd but instead of being entertained by an awesome vid i was greeted with this message on my 4k screen:
how is this possible? a few days of no use and it goes from working to this? so i pulled the vertex out of the chain and everything worked perfectly fine, the movie played flawlessly in full 4k hdr.
i suppose i could go through some more rounds of config files, resets, perhaps a couple of more combo tricks but, quite honestly, i'm out of gas on this, way too much work just to split a signal... i appreciate your earlier help trying to get it working for me, even tho it was more a workaround than the vertex actually working as it should, but sometimes you just have to say uncle.
We have already ordered TCL TV to solve the issue, it will arrive next week, so the fix will be for next TCL owner then.
The issue you are reporting here is just missing HDR/BT2020 flag in Automix (or algo adjustment)
Originally Posted by hexcode99
I thought you were going to test it for me? Sounds like it might be a long while longer if you send to this other person and not even guaranteed he will test it.
Just trying to find out if the Vertex can keep 4:4:4 chroma when scaling 1080p RGB to 4k RGB at 60fps 8bit.
Yes i thought the same, just the show have been more busy than we though (actually 800 visitors on our booth) so i had no time for me, sorry.
Rtings guys are the one who tested Linker upscaling and they are unbiased so currently it's the best way to get this tested as it should.
Originally Posted by Mr.Brown01
Thank you for the reply HDfury! I just ordered the AVR-Key for my wireless headphones. It looks like its the perfect device for my needs. (Full 4K HDR signal to the TV and extra HD Audio output to my wireless Headphones Sony MDR-HW700DS.
Few small question though,
1. the Vertex is able to output One 4K SDR 60fps signal as 1x 4K SDR 60fps and 1x 1080p SDR 60fps is that correct?
2. How high is the input lag created by the Vertex, 2-3 milliseconds?
1. YES ! (it's made for that)
2. less than 1 frame latency when doing operations on the signal, nearly nothing if no scaling/chroma/color depth operations.
Originally Posted by JGrana
I tend to agree with Manni, those feature could be removed. But, where does the HDR metadate override sit? Will this also not be implemented?
It is surprising that we a now talking about ditching features. That implies no more new going forward.
One idea @HDfury
, I know it's not ideal - but you guys might want to consider forking into 2 firmwares. One for JVC owners and one for the rest of us.
The video world is larger than JVC projectors ;-)
We are considering a few options at the moment, the goal is not to save memory for JVC needs, we want to have available memory for the most needed and requested feature.
Originally Posted by zoyd
As I understand it, vendor specific infoframe is needed to force DV mode when using with Calman calibration software.
Not sure if they are using it, could be, for the moment, nothing removed, just discussing/seeing where we can save memory from.
4k format will always need “hdmi vsi”. So does 3D. Those are unrelated to DV. Of course if you send 4k DV then there will also be “hdmi vsi”
In addition there is a plain “vsi” which is a generic vendor specific infoframe, we have not seen this in the stream when dv is active.
Originally Posted by DrFaxe
Retest with FW 1.13. This time the only input was the Oppo and output through eeColor then TV. 2nd connection to the TV was removed.
Again the same issue, once the framerate changes on the Oppo's output screen went black and HDCP version is gone in the GUI and OLED.
Sorry, no GoBlue. I control the Vertex via IR as You provide all these nice pronto codes.
One new strange thing. I tested yesterday with No Scaling activated. Now I'm no more able to activate custom or autoscaling, same is with custon edid. Everything is greyd out. I did several resets (on the Vertex as well with the GUI) and RST + 2x INP tricks, also uploaded my config which was with custom scaling, but no luck.
What can I do to reactivate custom scaling and edid??
You need to have SCALE slide to MID position to allow GUI control (or remote control), same for all slides switch, if HDCP or EDID is not in middle position, then no GUI control possible.
So if GUI is greyed out, it just means slide switch is not in mid position (as per usermanual)
Thank you for your test, that confirm the issues being with eecolor, so you should be able to setup everything as you want, and remove eecolor and it will work (you can try it)
Now to solve eecolor, we might need to buy one unit.
Please send me PM with your delivery address, we want to test something directly with you.
Originally Posted by DrFaxe
Exactly what I think. It would be a sad thing removing nice features that are potential benefits for everyone just because to add more and more JVC features.
I'm also with Zoyd, one of main reasons for my purchase is the capability to inject metadata and IF for calibration with calman.
That will remain, don't worry.