This is the thread for discussing the HDFury Vertex as well as support.
-General Support-
Please be descriptive in your support question and follow this format:
Source Brand/Model > length of HDMI cable (and type: copper/active/fiber) > Brand/Model > length of HDMI cable (and type: copper/active/fiber) > Brand/Model > etc...
In a setup with X1X, Vertex, X4200 and LG C7, in one chain, it would look like:
X1X > 6ft copper > Vertex > 6ft copper > X4200 > 6ft copper > LG C7
In a setup with X1X, Vertex, X4200 and LG C7, in split chain, it would look like:
X1X > 6ft copper > Vertex > 6ft copper > LG C7
---------------------------------> 6ft copper > X4200
Additional info we would like:
- FW in use and config (if possible)
- Confirmation that lock Icon is visible or not on OLED screen.
- Issue Description
- Link to any active or fiber cable in use.
- For users with any active or fiber cable, Test by replacing with copper: solve issue or not
- Test by power on sequence (power sink at outputs first, then source at input): solve issue or not.
Driver installation:
There are two different Silabs Drivers; v4.0.0 and v3.9.2. Try to install v.4.0.0 first and if you get a message saying cannot find any drivers for your system, then cancel and install v3.9.2 instead.
3.9.2 are mandatory for WinXP only.
To download Silabs Driver v4.0.0: http://www.hdfury.com/tools/Silabs_Driver_v4.zip
- Unzip it and navigate to the inner most Silabs_Driver_v4 folder. USBXpressInstaller_x64 application file is for Windows 64-bit. USBXpressInstaller_x86 for Windows 32-bit. Right mouse click on the correct version for your Windows and select Run As Administrator to install the driver.
To download Silabs Driver v3.9.2: http://www.hdfury.com/tools/Silabs_Driver_v3.zip
- Unzip it and navigate to the inner most Silabs_Driver_v3 folder. Right mouse click on USBXpressInstaller application file and select Run as Administrator.
After installation of the Silabs driver is complete, reboot your PC, connect your device and wait for USB notification sound (first connection after drivers install always take more time than next one).
~Courtesy of Claw
GoBlue update procedure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=tJQVu4z_2ko
Fix for HIGH DPI settings with the VERTEX GUI:
Many of you may have noticed that by default the Vertex GUI doesn't play nicely with high resolution displays and/or scaling. Particularly with Windows 10.
The GUI is near-unusable (certainly unreadable) unless you drop to a lower DPI and/or resolution - at which point it may be very hard to read.
This is easy to fix in Windows 10, and I believe 8 as well:
Make sure the GUI isn't already running, then right click the GUI exe file (the regular one, there's no need to do this with the 200dpi version)
Click the "Compatibility" tab.
Look down for "Override high DPI scaling behavior" and check the box.
For the drop-down under "Scaling Performed by" choose "System - Enhanced"
Start the GUI and revel in how it works normally now.
If you are like me and have a 4k PJ/TV and use 300% DPI scaling for the desktop you will seriously appreciate this.
~Courtesy of Ix
====Firmware as of 21-December-18====
====Q&A====
-Does the Vertex do frame rate conversion
No
-How do I connect the Vertex to a computer for firmware upgrade? Does it need less current in this case as for normal operation and and it is not required to have it connected to the power supply or are both Vertex and computer connected to the two USB ports of the power adapter and how exactly (port with one dot, port with two dots)?
-You connect the supplied USB powercord between your computer USB port and the Vertex USB port. If you just connect Vertex without any signal going through, power consumption is ridiculous, even if you play a signal at max speed power consumption doesn't exceed 1A, you would need to matrix two 18Gbps streams to go over 1A. Most computer USB port comes by 2 or 4, when 4 ports are available, it's usually one HUB ic sharing 5V2A for all 4 USB ports so each can get at least 0,5A (or 500mA) if they are all in use. So make sure if you want to use Vertex GUI software and play a signal at the same time that you don't have too many USB devices taking power at the same time. the Power adapter have 2 USB for convenience only, you can use any of them, so you can power Vertex and charge your phone at the same time if you want, or your joypad or your tablet, whatever...
-Okay, I have everything installed, but where do I begin?-
Here is a good starting point via HDFury:
-Is there Macro Control for the different modes?-
Yes, so far there is control for the JVC Projectors:
JVC calibration auto switch: 3D/x.v.color/SDR/HDR/HLG calibration autoswitch for 2015+ JVC PJs
JVC Macro not working?
Set the JVC to any mode but USER 1 [Note: in older models, RS-232 and IP control can't work at the same time, you have to select one or the other.
In 2015+ (and I think 2014 models) this isn't necessary and IP control works at the same time as RS-232].
Go to the RS232 tab in the Vertex GUI
Click "send test"
Until the JVC goes into User1, the RS232 control isn't working, so it's your cable (or the JVC) that doesn't work. It has nothing to do with the JVC Macro feature.
Please report back once you've got a working RS232-cable if you still have issues with the JVC Macro.
Recommended cables are listed in the original post about the Vertex JVC Macro feature, along with the pin assignment if you use your own cable.
See first post of the JVC Autocal thread in my sig for links to the Vertex related posts.
-OSD With Irule macro-
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/37-v...ury-vertex-owners-thread-26.html#post55210652
-Can I get ARC sound?-
If you want Vertex to retrieve ARC sound with Vertex, then VERTEX must be set as AUDIO SYSTEM with ARC under CEC devices settings (CEC must be enabled too).
Once this is done, the bottom output of Vertex must be connected to your TV ARC input and then you will have the TV ARC sound available at Vertex optical/analog out.
Optical is up to 5.1 and up to stereo for analog.
You can also just connect AVR ARC to TV ARC input and use Vertex thru another TV input if you don't want to use Vertex for ARC.
Latest Vertex firmware also allow to extract DD+ and ATMOS from TV APP and forward to AVR via optical (assuming your AVR support 192khz on optical input, very rare)
-What is the voltage of the TX/RX rs232 pins on the Vertex? I'm thinking of attaching it to raspberry pi serial port pins and need to know if it requires a level shifter from the default 3.3V levels on the pi.-
Yes need level shifter, Vertex is standard RS232, not an UART port.
voltage is around +-5V
Do not attach Pi to it without level shifter !
-What cables have been tested? or How should I place them-
- Any certified copper, active powered or fiber powered cable are ok.
For user with active cable non powered, read below.
-General Support-
Please be descriptive in your support question and follow this format:
Source Brand/Model > length of HDMI cable (and type: copper/active/fiber) > Brand/Model > length of HDMI cable (and type: copper/active/fiber) > Brand/Model > etc...
In a setup with X1X, Vertex, X4200 and LG C7, in one chain, it would look like:
X1X > 6ft copper > Vertex > 6ft copper > X4200 > 6ft copper > LG C7
In a setup with X1X, Vertex, X4200 and LG C7, in split chain, it would look like:
X1X > 6ft copper > Vertex > 6ft copper > LG C7
---------------------------------> 6ft copper > X4200
Additional info we would like:
- FW in use and config (if possible)
- Confirmation that lock Icon is visible or not on OLED screen.
- Issue Description
- Link to any active or fiber cable in use.
- For users with any active or fiber cable, Test by replacing with copper: solve issue or not
- Test by power on sequence (power sink at outputs first, then source at input): solve issue or not.
Driver installation:
There are two different Silabs Drivers; v4.0.0 and v3.9.2. Try to install v.4.0.0 first and if you get a message saying cannot find any drivers for your system, then cancel and install v3.9.2 instead.
3.9.2 are mandatory for WinXP only.
To download Silabs Driver v4.0.0: http://www.hdfury.com/tools/Silabs_Driver_v4.zip
- Unzip it and navigate to the inner most Silabs_Driver_v4 folder. USBXpressInstaller_x64 application file is for Windows 64-bit. USBXpressInstaller_x86 for Windows 32-bit. Right mouse click on the correct version for your Windows and select Run As Administrator to install the driver.
To download Silabs Driver v3.9.2: http://www.hdfury.com/tools/Silabs_Driver_v3.zip
- Unzip it and navigate to the inner most Silabs_Driver_v3 folder. Right mouse click on USBXpressInstaller application file and select Run as Administrator.
After installation of the Silabs driver is complete, reboot your PC, connect your device and wait for USB notification sound (first connection after drivers install always take more time than next one).
~Courtesy of Claw
GoBlue update procedure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=tJQVu4z_2ko
Fix for HIGH DPI settings with the VERTEX GUI:
Many of you may have noticed that by default the Vertex GUI doesn't play nicely with high resolution displays and/or scaling. Particularly with Windows 10.
The GUI is near-unusable (certainly unreadable) unless you drop to a lower DPI and/or resolution - at which point it may be very hard to read.
This is easy to fix in Windows 10, and I believe 8 as well:
Make sure the GUI isn't already running, then right click the GUI exe file (the regular one, there's no need to do this with the 200dpi version)
Click the "Compatibility" tab.
Look down for "Override high DPI scaling behavior" and check the box.
For the drop-down under "Scaling Performed by" choose "System - Enhanced"
Start the GUI and revel in how it works normally now.
If you are like me and have a 4k PJ/TV and use 300% DPI scaling for the desktop you will seriously appreciate this.
~Courtesy of Ix
====Firmware as of 21-December-18====
====Q&A====
-Does the Vertex do frame rate conversion
No
-How do I connect the Vertex to a computer for firmware upgrade? Does it need less current in this case as for normal operation and and it is not required to have it connected to the power supply or are both Vertex and computer connected to the two USB ports of the power adapter and how exactly (port with one dot, port with two dots)?
-You connect the supplied USB powercord between your computer USB port and the Vertex USB port. If you just connect Vertex without any signal going through, power consumption is ridiculous, even if you play a signal at max speed power consumption doesn't exceed 1A, you would need to matrix two 18Gbps streams to go over 1A. Most computer USB port comes by 2 or 4, when 4 ports are available, it's usually one HUB ic sharing 5V2A for all 4 USB ports so each can get at least 0,5A (or 500mA) if they are all in use. So make sure if you want to use Vertex GUI software and play a signal at the same time that you don't have too many USB devices taking power at the same time. the Power adapter have 2 USB for convenience only, you can use any of them, so you can power Vertex and charge your phone at the same time if you want, or your joypad or your tablet, whatever...
-Okay, I have everything installed, but where do I begin?-
Here is a good starting point via HDFury:
-Is there Macro Control for the different modes?-
Yes, so far there is control for the JVC Projectors:
JVC calibration auto switch: 3D/x.v.color/SDR/HDR/HLG calibration autoswitch for 2015+ JVC PJs
JVC Macro not working?
Set the JVC to any mode but USER 1 [Note: in older models, RS-232 and IP control can't work at the same time, you have to select one or the other.
In 2015+ (and I think 2014 models) this isn't necessary and IP control works at the same time as RS-232].
Go to the RS232 tab in the Vertex GUI
Click "send test"
Until the JVC goes into User1, the RS232 control isn't working, so it's your cable (or the JVC) that doesn't work. It has nothing to do with the JVC Macro feature.
Please report back once you've got a working RS232-cable if you still have issues with the JVC Macro.
Recommended cables are listed in the original post about the Vertex JVC Macro feature, along with the pin assignment if you use your own cable.
See first post of the JVC Autocal thread in my sig for links to the Vertex related posts.
-OSD With Irule macro-
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/37-v...ury-vertex-owners-thread-26.html#post55210652
-Can I get ARC sound?-
If you want Vertex to retrieve ARC sound with Vertex, then VERTEX must be set as AUDIO SYSTEM with ARC under CEC devices settings (CEC must be enabled too).
Once this is done, the bottom output of Vertex must be connected to your TV ARC input and then you will have the TV ARC sound available at Vertex optical/analog out.
Optical is up to 5.1 and up to stereo for analog.
You can also just connect AVR ARC to TV ARC input and use Vertex thru another TV input if you don't want to use Vertex for ARC.
Latest Vertex firmware also allow to extract DD+ and ATMOS from TV APP and forward to AVR via optical (assuming your AVR support 192khz on optical input, very rare)
-What is the voltage of the TX/RX rs232 pins on the Vertex? I'm thinking of attaching it to raspberry pi serial port pins and need to know if it requires a level shifter from the default 3.3V levels on the pi.-
Yes need level shifter, Vertex is standard RS232, not an UART port.
voltage is around +-5V
Do not attach Pi to it without level shifter !
-What cables have been tested? or How should I place them-
- Any certified copper, active powered or fiber powered cable are ok.
For user with active cable non powered, read below.