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Hi. After updating to FW 0.36 and later 0.37, my Vertex2 is having sync loss withing 2 minutes on both ATV4K and XB1X. As in loss of both audio and video. i use custom EDID 11(default).

In fact i reloaded last FW I used: 0.29 and the problem vent away.

Do you need a config export? And if so, of what, before or after A/V cutout?

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I've been unable to get HDMI ARC automatic input switching working on my AVR through the Vertex2.

The expected behavior is that when switching to an ARC source on the TV that the AVR will automatically switch to its ARC input. This is how everything works without the Vertex2 connected between the AVR's ARC port and the TV's ARC port.

If I connect the Vertex2 between the AVR & TV then it seems to break AVR ARC auto-switching.

I've updated the Vertex2 firmware to the .37 version, I've power-cycled everything in the CEC chain, I've confirmed that CEC is working otherwise (pressing a button the TV remote can control a device connected to the AVR), and I've tried both the "Audio Processor" & "Video Processor" CEC settings on the Vertex2. I also tried power-cycling everything withe very Vertex2 setting change to be safe.

My TV is an LG C9. My AVR is an NAD M17 V2.

Does anyone know what I need to change to fix this?

ARC works from TV ARC input for FIRST downstream device, so if your AVR is NOT FIRST downstream device, it cannot work, all that is normal. that's how CEC/ARC works


so it all depends what you are trying to do here.


If you want to extract ARC or eARC from C9 and forward to your AVR then : AVR at Diva audio out, Diva TX0 to TV ARC input and Diva set as Audio Processor, AVR output must NOT be connected to TV.
If you want to extract ARC or eARC from C9 directly to your AVR then: AVR output to TX ARC input, Diva TX0 to another TV INPUT or to AVR input, (if Diva TX0 to TV input here, then Diva Audio Out to AVR input) > DIVA set as VIDEO PROCESSOR here.

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Hi. After updating to FW 0.36 and later 0.37, my Vertex2 is having sync loss withing 2 minutes on both ATV4K and XB1X. As in loss of both audio and video. i use custom EDID 11(default).

In fact i reloaded last FW I used: 0.29 and the problem vent away.

Do you need a config export? And if so, of what, before or after A/V cutout?
Before and After please if you can, but any of them should be enough.
Also, please try to HARD RESET unit after you update from 0.29 to latest. (CONFIG > FACTORY RESET)


if no go, I can send you special fw to try.

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Before and After please if you can, but any of them should be enough.
Also, please try to HARD RESET unit after you update from 0.29 to latest. (CONFIG > FACTORY RESET)


if no go, I can send you special fw to try.
Thanks.
I always do a hard reset after update

I’ll see if i can get those exports within a couple days. In the meantime, the 0.29 FW works fine

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What you describe here is either network issue or cable issue. our devices are fully transparent so nothing introduced by the device itself.


Usually people have 4K source and usually the supplied cable is good (like PS4PRO, X1X, SHIELD, ATV4K cable) they are all very good as supplied, but when you insert our device in between then there is the need for another good cable and there start the old problem of getting a reliable cable for 600MHz/18Gbps signal.
So if you have not yet purchased a good cable, just get min 6ft/max12ft for copper from Kabledirekt, bluejeanscable or our cables and you will be fine.
I'll also send you a special FW to make sure it's really a cable issue, means if you have same problem with that fw, then IT IS a cable issue. this is something you can easily determine yourself, just set unit to use FIXED EDID, if all is fine with it and only fail with Custom EDID mode, AUTOMIX EDID mode or COPY SINK mode, then you know IT IS a cable issue.


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Hi

Stuttering fixed!

It was not my cables that caused the stuttering. I tried a lot of different cables, also very good ones, but still with stuttering.

What trickered the stuttering was actually a setting inn the Apple TV 4K. I had to Turn Match Dynamic Range and Match Frame Rate ON, then everything is now working.

So I'm when watching HD, 4K, Dolby Vision or HDR material from my Apple TV, the Hdfury Vertex 2 perfectly relays this information to my LG OLED65E6.

My next addition to the setup will be Meridian HD621 connected to the HDMI Audio Out, just for getting HD audio to my Meridian 568.2MM processor.

ATV4K HDR > HDFURY Vertex 2 > LG OLED65E6
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Hi

Stuttering fixed!

It was not my cables that caused the stuttering. I tried a lot of different cables, also very good ones, but still with stuttering.

What trickered the stuttering was actually a setting inn the Apple TV 4K. I had to Turn Match Dynamic Range and Match Frame Rate ON, then everything is now working.

So I'm when watching HD, 4K, Dolby Vision or HDR material from my Apple TV, the Hdfury Vertex 2 perfectly relays this information to my LG OLED65E6.

My next addition to the setup will be Meridian HD621 connected to the HDMI Audio Out, just for getting HD audio to my Meridian 568.2MM processor.

Good, so "stuttering" here was ATV4k doing 24 > 60 conversion.

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Hi

Stuttering fixed!

It was not my cables that caused the stuttering. I tried a lot of different cables, also very good ones, but still with stuttering.

What trickered the stuttering was actually a setting inn the Apple TV 4K. I had to Turn Match Dynamic Range and Match Frame Rate ON, then everything is now working.

So I'm when watching HD, 4K, Dolby Vision or HDR material from my Apple TV, the Hdfury Vertex 2 perfectly relays this information to my LG OLED65E6.

My next addition to the setup will be Meridian HD621 connected to the HDMI Audio Out, just for getting HD audio to my Meridian 568.2MM processor.
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Good, so "stuttering" here was ATV4k doing 24 > 60 conversion.
There is still the possibility that the HDMI cables are an issue. By turning on Match Frame Rate, 4K24 content is being displayed as 4K24 and not as 4K60 for all content when it is turned off. Most content is encoded at 4K24. There are many HDMI cables that are fine at 4K24 but fail at 4K60.

You should try playing content that is encoded at 4K60. It will be output at 4K60. If you have an Apple TV+ subscription, both "The Morning Show" and "Dickenson" are encoded at 4K60.
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Hi!


I would like to operate the Vertex2 in matrix mode with connections as follows:


IN TX0 (Sony X800M2) -> TX0 -> AVR
IN TX1 (nVidia Shield) -> TX1 -> AVR


When I power on the Shield, the port selector switches back to splitter mode and both outputs are set to Input 1
When I switch TX0 to Input 0 again, IN TX1 is loses the signal from the Shield.
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File Type: txt VERTEX2-CONFIG-16.11.2019_after_Shield_power_on.txt (11.4 KB, 2 views)
File Type: txt VERTEX2-CONFIG-16.11.2019_switch_back_to_matrix.txt (11.4 KB, 3 views)

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Hi!


I would like to operate the Vertex2 in matrix mode with connections as follows:


IN TX0 (Sony X800M2) -> TX0 -> AVR
IN TX1 (nVidia Shield) -> TX1 -> AVR


When I power on the Shield, the port selector switches back to splitter mode and both outputs are set to Input 1
When I switch TX0 to Input 0 again, IN TX1 is loses the signal from the Shield.

Please go in webserver > Turn IR off and see if you have same issue, it sounds like IR conflict unless I missed something.

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Please go in webserver > Turn IR off and see if you have same issue, it sounds like IR conflict unless I missed something.
Unfortunately deactivating IR does not help.

I'm not turning the Shield on via IR command.

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Unfortunately deactivating IR does not help.

I'm not turning the Shield on via IR command.
Then I'm not even sure of what you are describing, it seems you want to force matrix mode while you don't have 2 different inputs and outputs, if both outputs go to same AVR, then how can matrix work if there is never to 2 active outputs ?
May be start by explaining what you are trying to do, and in all cases, you have input TX0 set to copy TX1, if you really want to be in MATRIX mode, then both outputs should be set to different inputs and not any should copy the other.

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Then I'm not even sure of what you are describing, it seems you want to force matrix mode while you don't have 2 different inputs and outputs, if both outputs go to same AVR, then how can matrix work if there is never to 2 active outputs ?
May be start by explaining what you are trying to do, and in all cases, you have input TX0 set to copy TX1, if you really want to be in MATRIX mode, then both outputs should be set to different inputs and not any should copy the other.
Maybe it was not very clear what I was trying to do. I wanted to connect two different sources to two different AVR inputs with the Vertex2 in the middle. So I configured IN TX0 to TX0 and IN TX1 to TX1. When the Shield on and connected to IN TX1, TX0 changes to IN TX1.

After some more testing, it seems to work. But I think it is a bit confusing, that the settings change on their own.

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Maybe it was not very clear what I was trying to do. I wanted to connect two different sources to two different AVR inputs with the Vertex2 in the middle. So I configured IN TX0 to TX0 and IN TX1 to TX1. When the Shield on and connected to IN TX1, TX0 changes to IN TX1.

After some more testing, it seems to work. But I think it is a bit confusing, that the settings change on their own.
If what you call "settings change on their own" is the fact that input autochange, then that's because you have input priority ON in config section, turn autoswitch OFF and input priority OFF if you don't want the unit to do anything with input, once that is done, any switching is manual.
I don't think you have any issue here, just confused by autoswitching capability which is normal if you don't have both Vertex2 outputs (means both AVR inputs) always ON and processing the signal, which I guess depends on how you route them on AVR and then if the sinks devices are ON at AVR outputs (since I'm guessing that you are trying to feed zone 1/ zone2 separately here...)

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@HDfury .

First of all, the test FW you sent me worked, so thanks for that

Here is the FW0.37 with a working OPPO 203 playing.
And with ATV4K before the sync loss.
And after it stopped.
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File Type: txt VERTEX2-CONFIG-18.11.2019 ATV4K FW037 while working.txt (10.8 KB, 3 views)
File Type: txt VERTEX2-CONFIG-18.11.2019 ATV4K FW037 after stopped working.txt (10.8 KB, 3 views)

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I thought, that when I configure TX0 and TX1 via webinterface manually, it would stay as configured.
Autoswitch Inputs was off already. I turned Autoswitch priority off. The behaviour does not change.
But it's OK, because it get the source on screen that I want to have.

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@HDfury.

First of all, the test FW you sent me worked, so thanks for that

Here is the FW0.37 with a working OPPO 203 playing.
And with ATV4K before the sync loss.
And after it stopped.

Ok sorry, please clear that up for me, what worked ? if FW I sent worked, and official have issue, the issue is HDCP related, so drop me a line when you need special version of any latest official ones.

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I thought, that when I configure TX0 and TX1 via webinterface manually, it would stay as configured.
Autoswitch Inputs was off already. I turned Autoswitch priority off. The behaviour does not change.
But it's OK, because it get the source on screen that I want to have.

What you set in webserver for each input will remain AS LONG AS you do not have any autoswitching feature, Autoswitch and Input priority are 2 autoswitch routines that will override any manual settings if activated.
so if you want your setting to remain, make sure BOTH autoswitch and input priority are set to OFF.


AUTOSWITCH will switch to any active source once current active source is turned off.
INPUT PRIORITY will switch to first active source as soon as it turns on.

Also make sure to set each output manually for the particular input you want, if you want to use matrix mode, because "copy the other output" will imply using splitter mode.


If both Autoswitch and input priority disabled (not the case on your config export) and you saw any input change not manually forced, then that is coming from CEC more likely, in such case you can turn CEC off on the unit or on the device forcing the change (a TV or an AVR most of the case).

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Ok sorry, please clear that up for me, what worked ? if FW I sent worked, and official have issue, the issue is HDCP related, so drop me a line when you need special version of any latest FW.
The sync loss i reported earlier

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Hi. After updating to FW 0.36 and later 0.37, my Vertex2 is having sync loss withing 2 minutes on both ATV4K and XB1X. As in loss of both audio and video. i use custom EDID 11(default).

In fact i reloaded last FW I used: 0.29 and the problem vent away.

Do you need a config export? And if so, of what, before or after A/V cutout?
Like i said, FW 0.29 and the one you sent did not have the sync loss problem.

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The sync loss i reported earlier



Like i said, FW 0.29 and the one you sent did not have the sync loss problem.


Ok so you are fine now ?
And the FW0.29 is an official one or also already a special version ?


I cannot see how original 0.29 could work fine and latest original one could not. pretty weird.
If you don't mind, give me the video path again like : Source > ... > AVR ... > TV...

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Ok so you are fine now ?
And the FW0.29 is an official one or also already a special version ?


I cannot see how original 0.29 could work fine and latest original one could not. pretty weird.
If you don't mind, give me the video path again like : Source > ... > AVR ... > TV...

Yes, fine now. FW 0.29 was a official one, and it did not have the problem, so last night i first reloaded FW 0.37 again to capture export config for you, and sure enough it had the sync loss, so i made those 2 config files for you, one while it worked, and one after the sync loss.
Then i loaded the FW you sent me, and it did not have the problem, so it worked fine.

All FW worked when the source was my OPPO 203.

The Vertex2 is between sources and Denon AVC-X8500H and goes on to a Philips 65OLED873. They are both EU models.



The sync loss happened both with the ATV4K and the XB1X.

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Yes, fine now. FW 0.29 was a official one, and it did not have the problem, so last night i first reloaded FW 0.37 again to capture export config for you, and sure enough it had the sync loss, so i made those 2 config files for you, one while it worked, and one after the sync loss.
Then i loaded the FW you sent me, and it did not have the problem, so it worked fine.

All FW worked when the source was my OPPO 203.

The Vertex2 is between sources and Denon AVC-X8500H and goes on to a Philips 65OLED873. They are both EU models.




The sync loss happened both with the ATV4K and the XB1X.
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I saw TX1 detect 4K60 420 8b HDR in your config, isn't that above Darbee MAX ? in such case you need to change SCALER > AUTOSCALING > Default AUTOSENSE preset to something Darbee support. (or may be AVR takes in such signal and output compatible signal for Darbee already, this I don't know, so if it's working already, nothing to change.)

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I saw TX1 detect 4K60 420 8b HDR in your config, isn't that above Darbee MAX ? in such case you need to change SCALER > AUTOSCALING > Default AUTOSENSE preset to something Darbee support. (or may be AVR takes in such signal and output compatible signal for Darbee already, this I don't know, so if it's working already, nothing to change.)
I did !! Post 494

Yeah the Darbee is for when i watch BD’s, not UHD. And then i put the OPPO to 1080P, not auto. But i will try your suggestion. Anyway that is a sidetrack

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I did !! Post 494

Yeah the Darbee is for when i watch BD’s, not UHD. And then i put the OPPO to 1080P, not auto. But i will try your suggestion. Anyway that is a sidetrack
I meant, please put that big picture file in attachment
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Yes sure, just telling you what I'm seeing, it's hard to remember what have been done already or not, between forums, discord server and emails, often I lost track, especially when people have very similar setup with same brand/model, confusion is at the corner
Anyway, for the moment, I'm not sure why you are having this issue with official firmware, at least special firmware is a solution for you so I might need to monitor results with upcoming releases, as strangely enough, there is no changes made between 0.29 and latest that could explain such results, at least not yet. This being said, your setup is not the easiest one to handle as you have 2 receiver devices, which is a nightmare for keys calculations, the fact that it worked fine with any official firmware is a result many other devices makers would love to get too.

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Yes sure, just telling you what I'm seeing, it's hard to remember what have been done already or not, between forums, discord server and emails, often I lost track, especially when people have very similar setup with same brand/model, confusion is at the corner
Anyway, for the moment, I'm not sure why you are having this issue with official firmware, at least special firmware is a solution for you so I might need to monitor results with upcoming releases, as strangely enough, there is no changes made between 0.29 and latest that could explain such results, at least not yet. This being said, your setup is not the easiest one to handle as you have 2 receiver devices, which is a nightmare for keys calculations, the fact that it worked fine with any official firmware is a result many other devices makers would love to get too.
No worries

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Yes, i agree is is strange that FW 0.29 worked in my rather complicated setup. It was pretty much plug and play So, the only thing i did was update to FW 0.37( but the same problem was also on FW 0.36).

On ATV4K it even happens at the home menu.

Let me know if you need any more info/export configs etc.
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No worries

I am AMAZED at the support you continue to give to all kinds of setups in here, it is truly minboggling being able to sift through all the problems

Yes, i agree is is strange that FW 0.29 worked in my rather complicated setup. It was pretty much plug and play So, the only thing i did was update to FW 0.37( but the same problem was also on FW 0.36).

On ATV4K it even happens at the home menu.

Let me know if you need any more info/export configs etc.


Not yet, we have a more advanced internal version currently, so I guess it's better if we start checking results on upcoming release.
The only thing that could help a bit in nailing down the issue is to find after which update exactly things broke down for your setup, means testing all intermediary fw between 0.29 and 0.36 but as you have a working setup using special FW, better watch movies instead
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Hey guys, I'm looking to pick up the Vertex 2. I need to know how it will help me handle what I'm trying to do.

This is what I want to achieve:

HD/UHD sources > AVR > Vertex 2 > Darbee > TV

Can the Vertex 2 identify the source (HD or UHD) and then automatically switch whether it outputs on the Darbee HDMI chain or straight to the TV using the other HDMI out ?

I understand the Darbee cannot pass 4K content.

In this scenario I believe I would have one HDMI going to input 1 of the TV (no Darbee for the 4K stuff) and the 2nd HDMI going to input 2 of the TV with the Darbee for HD content.

Not sure if this is the best way to do this, trying to find the least amount of fiddling to get what I want.

I have the Harmony remote so trying to integrate that as well.

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Hey guys, I'm looking to pick up the Vertex 2. I need to know how it will help me handle what I'm trying to do.

This is what I want to achieve:

HD/UHD sources > AVR > Vertex 2 > Darbee > TV

Can the Vertex 2 identify the source (HD or UHD) and then automatically switch whether it outputs on the Darbee HDMI chain or straight to the TV using the other HDMI out ?

I understand the Darbee cannot pass 4K content.

In this scenario I believe I would have one HDMI going to input 1 of the TV (no Darbee for the 4K stuff) and the 2nd HDMI going to input 2 of the TV with the Darbee for HD content.

Not sure if this is the best way to do this, trying to find the least amount of fiddling to get what I want.

I have the Harmony remote so trying to integrate that as well.

I think you should go the easy way, you input signal from your AVR and then that signal goes to 2 outputs, one is pass thru original, other will be 1080p always, so even if content is 4K you can can try it thru darbe by switching tv inputs.
You can also consider doing this with Diva and then you can try 4K HDR > 1080p SDR > DARBEE > TV as well.

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Hey guys, I'm looking to pick up the Vertex 2. I need to know how it will help me handle what I'm trying to do.

This is what I want to achieve:

HD/UHD sources > AVR > Vertex 2 > Darbee > TV

Can the Vertex 2 identify the source (HD or UHD) and then automatically switch whether it outputs on the Darbee HDMI chain or straight to the TV using the other HDMI out ?

I understand the Darbee cannot pass 4K content.

In this scenario I believe I would have one HDMI going to input 1 of the TV (no Darbee for the 4K stuff) and the 2nd HDMI going to input 2 of the TV with the Darbee for HD content.

Not sure if this is the best way to do this, trying to find the least amount of fiddling to get what I want.

I have the Harmony remote so trying to integrate that as well.

I think you should go the easy way, you input signal from your AVR and then that signal goes to 2 outputs, one is pass thru original, other will be 1080p always, so even if content is 4K you can can try it thru darbe by switching tv inputs.
You can also consider doing this with Diva and then you can try 4K HDR > 1080p SDR > DARBEE > TV as well.
Ok so I'll need an AVR with two or more outputs... Was hoping to get away with my one but I don't think it can be avoided

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Do what i do: put the Vertex2 before the AVR, not after it.

I got one output from Vertex going to AVR input1, for UHD.
And the other output from Vertex going to Darbee and then to AVR input2.

And then just switch input on your AVR according to what you watch

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Do what i do: put the Vertex2 before the AVR, not after it.

I got one output from Vertex going to AVR input1, for UHD.
And the other output from Vertex going to Darbee and then to AVR input2.

And then just switch input on your AVR according to what you watch [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
Wow never thought of that.... Doesn't the Darbee need to be AFTER the AVR and right before the display ? That's what I thought was the recommended setup.

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