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Question on cabling.

I saw that you recommend keeping the cable length under 12 feet. My setup requires me to go about 28 feet between TV and Pre Amp. I am using a AudioQuest Cherry Cola Active Optical HDMI which has worked flawlessly to send all 4k HDR.

I also have an AudioQuest Cinnamon HDMI cable running that same distance which is currently not being used.

My plan was to use the Vertex2 solely to extract the audio from the TV from eARC.

Thoughts on using the long Cinnamon cable for just the eARC signal and leaving the Cherry Cola direct from Pre Amp to TV?

THANKS

Dan

Yes should work fine, yet the fact that 4K60 HDR worked, does not mean much, most of the time 4K60 HDR is 4K60 420 10b = 375MHz, that's very far from 600MHz where most cables have issues, so the day you play real 18Gbps/600MHz 4K60 422 12b or 4K60 444 8b and you have issue, then the cable is not good enough and need to be replaced, the 12ftmax recommendation is for copper, if you have good active or good fiber you should be fine for any length.




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Hdfury,

One thing I've noticed, is when playing Expanse Season 2 from my Emby server, is momentary dropouts every once and a while the audio from the audio output to my AVR.

The Expanse has DTS-HD MA, Vertex2 shows HBR Bitstream

I know 2019 Shield is still have some issues but thought it might be of some interest to the dev folks.
So here you have 600MHz signal, so just play any lower signal if you have no issue with lower signal, then that is just a cable issue, replace by kabledirekt, bluejeanscable or our cables in min 6ft, max 12ft and you will be fine.

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Yes should work fine, yet the fact that 4K60 HDR worked, does not mean much, most of the time 4K60 HDR is 4K60 420 10b = 375MHz, that's very far from 600MHz where most cables have issues, so the day you play real 18Gbps/600MHz 4K60 422 12b or 4K60 444 8b and you have issue, then the cable is not good enough and need to be replaced, the 12ftmax recommendation is for copper, if you have good active or good fiber you should be fine for any length.


So here you have 600MHz signal, so just play any lower signal if you have no issue with lower signal, then that is just a cable issue, replace by kabledirekt, bluejeanscable or our cables in min 6ft, max 12ft and you will be fine.

I 'm thinking you mean the cable from the Shield, and if it's that, it's a fiber optic cable. The only cable not is the HD-Audio cable.
That is why I posted. While not a guarantee, it less likely vs a wire cable. But I will check.

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I 'm thinking you mean the cable from the Shield, and if it's that, it's a fiber optic cable. The only cable not is the HD-Audio cable.
That is why I posted. While not a guarantee, it less likely vs a wire cable. But I will check.

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I didn't mean any cable in particular, I was just saying that on this config you are playing 600MHz which is where cable fails, so I was saying to either play lower bandwidth content or force lower bandwidth content by using a lower EDID MAX and see if you still have such issue.
Because if DROP occurs at 600MHz and not at lower bandwidth, there is nothing to check or investigate here, IT IS CABLE ISSUE 100% GUARANTEED.

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Just received my Vertex2 and having trouble getting any eARC signal to show up from my Sony A9G TV. On the info tab it shows No Signal for IN TX0.

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TV eARC HDMI Port to Vertex 0 input

TV Settings
- eArc = Auto

Sony Android TV Fix On

Tried multiple settings but here is the one I thought would work based on what I have read.

As another test I took the HDMI out from my AVR and it did show up on the input.

AVR is an Arcam AV860, should handle any of the signals but first step is to get TV to send a signal out.

Tried 4 different cables.

THANKS for any help!
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Just received my Vertex2 and having trouble getting any eARC signal to show up from my Sony A9G TV. On the info tab it shows No Signal for IN TX0.

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TV eARC HDMI Port to Vertex 0 input

TV Settings
- eArc = Auto

Sony Android TV Fix On

Tried multiple settings but here is the one I thought would work based on what I have read.

As another test I took the HDMI out from my AVR and it did show up on the input.

AVR is an Arcam AV860, should handle any of the signals but first step is to get TV to send a signal out.

Tried 4 different cables.

THANKS for any help!

This config is not good, HARD RESET unit from WEBSERVER > CONFIG and retry the export.
You have set ATMOS/DD+ under CEC which is an ARC features, should not be used for EARC, so uncheck it.


Confirm you have TX0 out going to TV ARC INPUT
and AUDIO OUT going to AVR INPUT


in TV, you must go in speaker menu and select HDMI/Vertex2
AVR must be set to correct input and its output should not be connected to TV.


Confirm which source you are using and what signal you are sending please. (if you use 1440p120 and such, export config using 1080p or 4K instead please as currently when input is 1440p config will miss crucial details, will be fixed on future udpate)

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This config is not good, HARD RESET unit from WEBSERVER > CONFIG and retry the export.
You have set ATMOS/DD+ under CEC which is an ARC features, should not be used for EARC, so uncheck it.


Confirm you have TX0 out going to TV ARC INPUT
and AUDIO OUT going to AVR INPUT


in TV, you must go in speaker menu and select HDMI/Vert2
AVR must be set to correct input and its output should not be connected to TV.


Confirm which source you are using and what signal you are sending please. (if you use 1440p120 and such, export config using 1080p or 4K instead please as currently when input is 1440p config will miss crucial details, will be fixed on future udpate)
Thanks! Totally my fault, I had the connection from the tv to the HDMI Input 0 and not HDMI TX0 arc/cec/up.

I also shut of the Atmos setting you mentioned.

Thanks for the fast response!
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Hi HDfury

When you use the following EDID does HDR include DV, HDR10, HDR10+ and HLG?

11. 4K60-444 600Mhz HDR BT2020 ALL SOUND

I'v looked at the list of Custom EDID and don't see any choices listing all HDR formats.

I have the Vizio PX75 which supports all HDR formats but the only way I can see to make sure all formats is Automix.

I see the Vizio Custom EDID but it includes 3D support which is not supported on the PX75.

Is there a tool to create a custom set EDID's with full HDR set?

I do realize if #11 does give full HDR support it does not matter.
But if not, seems like we need something like Flag select, for the custom EDID

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Hi HDfury

When you use the following EDID does HDR include DV, HDR10, HDR10+ and HLG?

11. 4K60-444 600Mhz HDR BT2020 ALL SOUND

I'v looked at the list of Custom EDID and don't see any choices listing all HDR formats.

I have the Vizio PX75 which supports all HDR formats but the only way I can see to make sure all formats is Automix.

I see the Vizio Custom EDID but it includes 3D support which is not supported on the PX75.

Is there a tool to create a custom set EDID's with full HDR set?

I do realize if #11 does give full HDR support it does not matter.
But if not, seems like we need something like Flag select, for the custom EDID

Thanks for support
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Don't reinvent the wheel please you don't need any flag in custom EDID.
If you understand how DV works then you know DV needs to use display DV string, so you need to be in automix for DV, where you can also force any flags and then if you like once working fine, you can read that automix created edid and load it back as custom edid, thus creating your own custom EDID, as simple as that.
Not sure why you would need any edid tool here, you already have the best tool in hand.

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Don't reinvent the wheel please you don't need any flag in custom EDID.
If you understand how DV works then you know DV needs to use display DV string, so you need to be in automix for DV, where you can also force any flags and then if you like once working fine, you can read that automix created edid and load it back as custom edid, thus creating your own custom EDID, as simple as that.
Not sure why you would need any edid tool here, you already have the best tool in hand.
Ok, if I understand, since the TV supports DV no need to use DV Force or should it be checked?

My question was to be able to control the color bit depth, 8, 10 and 12. It seems that the 2 devices I have connected want to use 12bit depth for SDR and I wanted to change that to 8bit or 10bit for SDR viewing for comparison?

Does not using a larger bit depth than the source actually degrade the result?

Please bear with me as I am exploring and learning EDID stuff.

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Ok, if I understand, since the TV supports DV no need to use DV Force or should it be checked?

My question was to be able to control the color bit depth, 8, 10 and 12. It seems that the 2 devices I have connected want to use 12bit depth for SDR and I wanted to change that to 8bit or 10bit for SDR viewing for comparison?

Does not using a larger bit depth than the source actually degrade the result?

Please bear with me as I am exploring and learning EDID stuff.

Thanks
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I don't see how you could control the color depth if at the same time you want to play any type of signal, if you apply such rules for some signal, it won't change anything and more likely it will hurt on other type of signal.
If source is sending 8b and you output it at 10b or 12b it does not change anything, similarly if source material is 8b and source output at 10 or 12b it doesn't change anything (source just fill the gap with "zero").
BUT if you limit output to 8b and then play some material that need more than that, then you are losing color depth with that settings.


DV does not need to be checked, BUT in some case it needs to be checked, this is because mixing FULL VIDEO and FULL AUDIO from 2 or 3 different EDID is hard to do in today limited EDID space and with more and more options to combine together, so when compiling there is some choice to do, DV string is taking lot of space, so it can easily be dropped in automix if space is needed to combine 2 or 3 EDID, by chance such case is still rare but if it happens, then force metadata will make sure the mix keep DV and will then drop something else instead to create enough space to combine several EDIDs.

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So no need to be concerned about bit depth, effectively it's already limited by source video depth. Makes sense now

What about color space on one I get 420 SDR which looks good but the other puts out 422 SDR, with that, faces look a little to red.
I'm thinking it's the difference of 420 vs 422 on SDR material.
Does this make sense?

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So no need to be concerned about bit depth, effectively it's already limited by source video depth. Makes sense now

What about color space on one I get 420 SDR which looks good but the other puts out 422 SDR, with that, faces look a little to red.
I'm thinking it's the difference of 420 vs 422 on SDR material.
Does this make sense?

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No sorry, I'm not sure I got the question right, you said " on one" and "the other", what are "the one " and "the other" ?
if you have a 18Gbps/600MHz display and a decent 18Gbps/600MHz source, they should play well together, source will just send the max/best possible always.
Or may be try to explain me the problem, if any, that you are trying to solve.

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Sorry, I did not give enough info.

Color on the Tivo seems right, color of faces look good; while the Shield faces look a little too red.
Color space is BT2020 420 vs BT709 422

The following is viewing the same channel with the same program.

I do realize Shield is still having issues which may account for it all.

I don't expect Vertex2 to fix it, Just trying to understand why.

The Tivo sends the SDR signal out as:
4K59.933 420 BT2020 8b SDR 297MHz

The 2019 Shield sends this:
4K59.930 422 BT709 12b 593MHz 2.2

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Sorry, I did not give enough info.

Color on the Tivo seems right, color of faces look good; while the Shield faces look a little too red.
Color space is BT2020 420 vs BT709 422

The following is viewing the same channel with the same program.

I do realize Shield is still having issues which may account for it all.

I don't expect Vertex2 to fix it, Just trying to understand why.

The Tivo sends the SDR signal out as:
4K59.933 420 BT2020 8b SDR 297MHz

The 2019 Shield sends this:
4K59.930 422 BT709 12b 593MHz 2.2

Thanks
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I guess it's normal given the difference in signal that you get different results, not even sure its Shield issue, can be the APP you are using on it.
Anyway that have nothing to do with our devices, you just have to direct connect source to tv if you have any doubt.
Even if I wanted to help here, I could not really help, it's beyond or far away my expertise sorry.


There is some very knowledgeable people visiting this thread, so I hope you will get answer.

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Thanks Hdfury,

Really appreciate your help with me to understanding and apply all of this.

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Hi HD Fury

Two queries:

1) when I use automix to try to pass LLDV to my JVC RS640, Dolby atmos doesn’t pass through to the AVR. The following Automix options/flags are selected:
ALGORITHM: Max audio, Max video
AUDIO FLAGS: FULL
HDR FLAGS: HDR 10+ HLG
COLOR FLAGS: BT.2020/xvYCBCr
DV FLAGS: DV Force LLDV

Chain is as follows:

Apple 4K TV -> Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, [email protected], HDR, 18Gbps, 28AWG, YCbCr 4:4:4-> Vertex 2 -> Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, [email protected], HDR, 18Gbps, 28AWG, YCbCr 4:4:4 -> denon x4400h -> Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, [email protected], HDR, 18Gbps, 28AWG, YCbCr 4:4:4 —> JVC RS640


2) I noticed the Vertex 2 gets a little warm after use. Is this normal?

Thanks in advance.
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I'll ask Devs to be sure but I don't think that's possible.
Thanks HDFury, what is it then the DCI-P3 output option is doing if it's not changing the gamma/colours of the signal? (is it just a doing a different EDID signaling)
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It looks fine but cannot be placed on a shelf since there are connectors on both ends. I placed in on the ground in back of my credenza.
A unit with all connections on the back would be a bit easier to integrate.

- Rich
Totally. My EGreat is sat next to some high end AV equipment and an ODroid N2 Kodi box and all looks fantastic. Aesthetics are v important to me. The Vertex will stand out like a sore thumb in comparision because of the cables. I will only be connecting one source to the front though so can live with it but would freak out at multiple sources.

As for the 'form follows function', that does not mean something can't look good. Look at high end turntables, amps etc - they can be beautiful - precision engineering and all that.

Anyways, was just a suggestion for V3.
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I copy you raw devs answers below, most of the above are not "issues".

1. get status rx0/rx1..
yes only rx0 applies when in splitter mode and rx0/rx1 applies when in matrix mode.
we should probably name them differently but it does work now too.
only active channels are monitored for what they are thats why concept of rx2/rx3 don't exist and are not needed

2. web interface mask level 0 is not supported

3. #vertex2 is needed to flush rs232 buffer and address the device properly.
it is not used in IP because device is already addressed by making the IP connection first (e.g. 192.168.1.100 defines the recipient)

4. about 32khz signal complaint.. yes maybe doable as nothing out, we will check it.

5. not sure what is "optional output" is that the not used aux? if yes there is nothing on it currently
1) Ok understood.


2) Ok understood. 0 is supported through IP commands but 0 and 1 have the same effect.


3) It's more user friendly if both IP and SER use the same strings. My focus is on IP now for the iRule device. I may drop the serial commands from the iRule Vertex2 device I created altogether.


4) Ok lets hope they get it working that way.


5) Yes I meant the not used aux. Just wondering what type of signal it can output. Just thinking of possible use cases.


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Hi HD Fury

Two queries:

1) when I use automix to try to pass LLDV to my JVC RS640, Dolby atmos doesn’t pass through to the AVR. The following Automix options/flags are selected:
ALGORITHM: Max audio, Max video
AUDIO FLAGS: FULL
HDR FLAGS: HDR 10+ HLG
COLOR FLAGS: BT.2020/xvYCBCr
DV FLAGS: DV Force LLDV

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2) I noticed the Vertex 2 gets a little warm after use. Is this normal?

Thanks in advance.
I don't need a description of your cable, however the brand and the length of them is what matter so please confirm the length of each cable.
I also don't need a description of your settings but I do need a config export when you have the issue, so please export and post your config. (on your description I don't even know at which output JVC is, for ex, if its at TX1, your issue might just be that TX1 is not set to copy TX0)


For second question, i'll get you thermal pic of operating temp, I don't think it gets hot at all, not sure if that match "gets a little warm"

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1) Ok understood.


2) Ok understood. 0 is supported through IP commands but 0 and 1 have the same effect.


3) It's more user friendly if both IP and SER use the same strings. My focus is on IP now for the iRule device. I may drop the serial commands from the iRule Vertex2 device I created altogether.


4) Ok lets hope they get it working that way.


5) Yes I meant the not used aux. Just wondering what type of signal it can output. Just thinking of possible use cases.


Thanks again.
Hi Frank,


I'll monitor 4. and keep you updated.
Let me know if you want me to ask more details on 5.

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Hi Franck,


Please ask details on 5.


Possible use cases depend on that ports hardware configuration. Now it's just a black hole.
A possible use case could be to output a discrete voltage level if there is no input active.
If it can do rs232 an IP command to send a user string over that port can be created. In that case Vertex2 can act as a (one way) pass through for rs232 commands send from remote apps like iRule.
(Such an IP command can be created for the existing rs232port as well)


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Thanks HDFury, what is it then the DCI-P3 output option is doing if it's not changing the gamma/colours of the signal? (is it just a doing a different EDID signaling)
The custom HDR10 metadata values you send don't do anything to the content. The values are used to describe the HDR10 content to the display receiving it.

Most HDR10 titles are graded to DCI-P3 color primaries. Some like Tomb Raider and The Matrix are graded to BT2020. BT2020 is a wider color gamut than DCI-P3. While some displays can reach 100% of DCI-P3, I don't believe there is any current display that can reach 100% of BT2020.

I can't tell you if a particular display will react differently if the metadata received specifies BT.2020 primaries vs DCI-P3. Both should trigger the display to use what is typically named "wide" color gamut.
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Thanks HDFury, what is it then the DCI-P3 output option is doing if it's not changing the gamma/colours of the signal? (is it just a doing a different EDID signaling)
I was about to ask where did you see such output option but apparently Claw found where it comes from


Anyway, we do not offer a strict conversion BT2020 > DCI
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So before I spend $400, I wanted to cover my use case scenarios, and make sure this will fix all my headaches and future proof HDMI 2.1 usage.

I have an AVR (Marantz SR7011, not capable of eARC) and LG C9 (eARC port). I am wanting to use some apps on webOS (like PLEX, for Dolby Vision), Xbox One X VRR on LG C9, and be able to get Atmos/HD Audio out to my receiver. Also, assuming PS5/Xbox Next are 4K/120Hz capable, I'd use the TV's input ports, and I'd want to send audio back to the receiver via that eARC on the LG.

So, I'd feed my AVR HDMI Out to the Vertex2 HDMI IN.
Xbox One X directly to C9 (non eARC HDMI port).
Vertex2 to C9 eARC HDMI via TX0 HDMI port.
Then run an HDMI from Audio Out on Vertex2 to a free HDMI In on the AVR (for eARC).

If I'm understanding right, this will allow me to seamlessly use all those devices at full potential. Am I wrong anywhere?

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So before I spend $400, I wanted to cover my use case scenarios, and make sure this will fix all my headaches and future proof HDMI 2.1 usage.

I have an AVR (Marantz SR7011, not capable of eARC) and LG C9 (eARC port). I am wanting to use some apps on webOS (like PLEX, for Dolby Vision), Xbox One X VRR on LG C9, and be able to get Atmos/HD Audio out to my receiver. Also, assuming PS5/Xbox Next are 4K/120Hz capable, I'd use the TV's input ports, and I'd want to send audio back to the receiver via that eARC on the LG.

So, I'd feed my AVR HDMI Out to the Vertex2 HDMI IN.
Xbox One X directly to C9 (non eARC HDMI port).
Vertex2 to C9 eARC HDMI via TX0 HDMI port.
Then run an HDMI from Audio Out on Vertex2 to a free HDMI In on the AVR (for eARC).

If I'm understanding right, this will allow me to seamlessly use all those devices at full potential. Am I wrong anywhere?

Not sure why AVR HDMI OUTPUT need to go to VERTEX2 INPUT here, seems not relevant for what you are trying to do.
Otherwise all that is good as long as you know that LG C9 have LPCM issue on eARC so do not expect any LPCM other than stereo to work before LG release promised firmware upgrade for Q2 2020 apparently.
Bitstream and HBR bitstream are working nicely via C9 eARC thus.

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Not sure why AVR HDMI OUTPUT need to go to VERTEX2 INPUT here, seems not relevant for what you are trying to do.
Otherwise all that is good as long as you know that LG C9 have LPCM issue on eARC so do not expect any LPCM other than stereo to work before LG release promised firmware upgrade for Q2 2020 apparently.
Bitstream and HBR bitstream are working nicely via C9 eARC thus.
I didn't mention, but I have other devices (PS4, Chromecast, OPPO 203, may be forgetting something else) plugged into AVR. I guess I could plug those directly into Vertex2, but might as well leave them in AVR.

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I don't need a description of your cable, however the brand and the length of them is what matter so please confirm the length of each cable.
I also don't need a description of your settings but I do need a config export when you have the issue, so please export and post your config. (on your description I don't even know at which output JVC is, for ex, if its at TX1, your issue might just be that TX1 is not set to copy TX0)


For second question, i'll get you thermal pic of operating temp, I don't think it gets hot at all, not sure if that match "gets a little warm"

Thanks for the reply.

1) The 2 HDMI cables to the Vertex input are Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable; both are 3 ft. The HDMIs from the Vertex output is another Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI cable at 10ft, and the other is an Oppo supplied HDMI that shipped with their Oppo 203 (I think it's around 6 ft).

2) I've attached a txt of my config file.

IN TX0 = Oppo 203
IN TX1 = Apple TV 4k
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Hi HD Fury

Two queries:

1) when I use automix to try to pass LLDV to my JVC RS640, Dolby atmos doesn’t pass through to the AVR. The following Automix options/flags are selected:
ALGORITHM: Max audio, Max video
AUDIO FLAGS: FULL
HDR FLAGS: HDR 10+ HLG
COLOR FLAGS: BT.2020/xvYCBCr
DV FLAGS: DV Force LLDV

Chain is as follows:

Apple 4K TV -> Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, [email protected], HDR, 18Gbps, 28AWG, YCbCr 4:4:4-> Vertex 2 -> Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, [email protected], HDR, 18Gbps, 28AWG, YCbCr 4:4:4 -> denon x4400h -> Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable, [email protected], HDR, 18Gbps, 28AWG, YCbCr 4:4:4 —> JVC RS640


2) I noticed the Vertex 2 gets a little warm after use. Is this normal?

Thanks in advance.
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Thanks for the reply.

1) The 2 HDMI cables to the Vertex input are Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI Cable; both are 3 ft. The HDMIs from the Vertex output is another Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI cable at 10ft, and the other is an Oppo supplied HDMI that shipped with their Oppo 203 (I think it's around 6 ft).

2) I've attached a txt of my config file.

IN TX0 = Oppo 203
IN TX1 = Apple TV 4k

Ok so according to your config you have DENON AVR at TX0 and TX1 output, so both outputs goes to Denon AVR, any reason for that ?
What do you have at Denon output ?
And why not using Denon at audio out ?

So for ex, if Denon is at audio out then your automix flag should be Audio Out, if Denon at TX1 then TX1 flag, if TX0 > TX0 flag ,etc.. Currently you have full sound selected.




Btw ,attached are thermal pics running 600MHz signal
Max is front with 40.8 Celsius, top 38.9 Celsius, etc...
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Ok so according to your config you have DENON AVR at TX0 and TX1 output, so both outputs goes to Denon AVR, any reason for that ?
What do you have at Denon output ?
And why not using Denon at audio out ?

So for ex, if Denon is at audio out then your automix flag should be Audio Out, if Denon at TX1 then TX1 flag, if TX0 > TX0 flag ,etc.. Currently you have full sound selected.




Btw ,attached are thermal pics running 600MHz signal
Max is front with 40.8 Celsius, top 38.9 Celsisu, etc...

The Vertex outputs go into my AVR as the bluray and media box inputs. I would like to be able to switch between the different inputs. Ie, push a button in the harmony controller and it switches to Blu-ray from Apple TV and vise versa.

The Denon outputs to the JVC RS640 with another Monprice cable, this time at 20ft.

Sounds like I need to change my setting to Audio out. Will try that.

Thanks also for the infrared picture. Converting to F, it’s around 102-105 F; this confirms what I am feeling. Just wanted to ensure it was normal.
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