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Bluetooth headphones for Sony X800/X1000/X1100

I am new to a Sony UBP-X1000ES blu-ray player. Like its range mates the X800 and the X1100ES, it has the ability of pairing with bluetooth headphones. My problem is, with my cheap basic JLab Rewind Retros there is no volume control.

I'd like to upgrade at least one notch, and get a new pair of bluetooth headphones with volume controls.

So I'm here groveling to any other Sony UBP bluetooth-pairers who've gone through the research mode and trial-and-error of finding their best match for a Sony deck. I just have no idea if staying in-brand has any advantage or not,.... so that's kind of one of the things am hoping to get a read on..
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After some more testing & research, some notes to make. Some of this is going to be old news or statements of the obvious to some.. BUT if I save just one little sea turtle, ..

The X1000ES supports 3 bluetooth codecs -- SBC, AAC, and LDAC -- all three being originally intended for audio-only situations.


Missing from that list is Qualcomm's aptX Low Latency codec. That "low latency" part translates to imperceptible lag in the sync between when-you-see-it and when-you-hear-it. So that's the codec you really want for watching movies and TV.


So if one wants to do some occasional video watching via bluetooth headphones, one should optimally have a pair of headphones that support aptX Low Latency. Qualcomm has a list:


Then you'd also need a transmitter that supports aptX Low Latency.
Interesting: Latency testing by Rtings.
https://www.rtings.com/headphones/te...tivity/latency

Samsung is the only other marque to have put bluetooth headphones functionality into a UHD player. I got curious, but could not find the answer to what bluetooth codecs the M9500 supports; even the User Manual doesn't say. Any M9500 owners know from experience?

Last edited by Mister B.M.; 10-25-2019 at 06:02 AM. Reason: Strikethroughing b/c Aptx-LL was the wrong trail for this case; lots of Aptx-LL info elsewhere.
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Goodbye AptX-LL, Hello LDAC-ConnectionPriority

New direction.
Somebody in the same boat - but way ahead of me - said this in a reddit that's informative for anybody with a Sony soundbar/TV/player capable of bluetooth audio output, emphasis mine:


https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/..._home_theater/
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I set the bluetooth LDAC setting on the soundbar to normal to start off with. After pairing my headphones with the soundbar (you have to change the mode to transmitter mode) I tested a few shows to check the latency. It was good but still perceivable by a hair. So I dropped the LDAC mode down to “connection priority”. That’s where it hit home. Flawless lip sync, nothing perceivable.
Until this point, I'd thought the raison d'etre for LDAC was just high bit-rate music listening.

The Bluetooth LDAC Mode submenu on my UBP-X1000ES

Aha,...Connection, there it is, fourth one down.

Now I have shifted to research mode for LDAC-supporting bluetooth headphones -- basically, a class of ~10 made by Sony. Hopefully will have determined which models I'm good with so can pull the trigger by BF.


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WH-1000XM3 Wireless Noise-Canceling Headphones
WH-1000XM2 Wireless Noise-Canceling Headphones
MDR-1000X Wireless Noise-Canceling Headphones
WH-XB900N Extra Bass Wireless Noise-Canceling Headphones
WH-H910N h.ear on 3 Wireless Noise Cancelling Headphones
WH-H900N h.ear on 2 Wireless Noise-Canceling Headphones
WH-H800 h.ear on 2 Mini Wireless Headphones
MDR-100ABN h.ear on Wireless Noise-Canceling Headphones
MDR-1ABT Wireless Headphones

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Sony WH-H900N h.ear on 2

Had these for a few weeks now, though I've used them kinda sparingly for video viewing. Main usage scenario is streaming music off the X1000ES while my eyes are focused elsewhere. Actually listening to a playlist of '80s Pop Divas while writing these words. (What a feeling.)

These cans work great and feel great. Using them with the X1000ES's LDAC-Connection configuration does indeed make lip sync lag unnoticeable. The oblong shaped earpads fit snug and, per the thigh test, leakage is barely perceptible at rational volume. On my initial run through of testing, they stayed connected through launch and usage of all the apps on the X1000ES (which is something that should be expected of high-end in-brand Sony's, but can't be universally assumed, as I learned from experience with the semi-compatible-semi-incompatible JLab Rewind Wireless Retro). Besides the standard SBC, additionally supported codecs are: AAC, LDAC, aptX, aptX HD. (All your smartphones are covered. If curious, scroll down three-quarters of the way on this page to see the codec chaos in just smartphones.)

Regarding the touch-based gesture controls: surprisingly I like them. The first couple of times I may have fumbled around, but I got the hang of it right fast. Just reach for the top of your left ear and you're on the top ridge of the gesture surface. Vertical swipes for volume control; horizontal for track switching.

Areas where I have no opinion. The noise cancelling is something I don't use. A minor inconvenience to have to turn it off each time you turn power up, but a quick double-tap of the NC button gitsrdun. But hey, at least you CAN turn it off, something that can't be said for them all. Sony doesn't make an app for my devices, so that's that. Also, these headphones can be used wired -- with me not having the right cord, I haven't tried that mode.
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