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neutral ?music on ear headphones

looking to possibly try music first headphones , budget would be around $200 (flexible , but not more than double ).. i listen to blues (acoustic guitar oriented, as well as electric guitar), classic rock and vocal oriented music...would like something that has a bit of low end punch as well, but neutral speakers (like ascend) are my preference.. thanks...

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looking to possibly try music first headphones , budget would be around $200 (flexible , but not more than double ).. i listen to blues (acoustic guitar oriented, as well as electric guitar), classic rock and vocal oriented music...would like something that has a bit of low end punch as well, but neutral speakers (like ascend) are my preference.. thanks...

Not sure if you've already picked up some headphones but if not check out the KLH Ultimate One. They're on sale at music direct. Looking at the reviews the sound might be what you'd like. A mildly boosted low end but otherwise fairly neutral. Most headphones have a boosted bass and treble. Some unbearably so, for me anyways. The only truly neutral headphones I'm aware of are the AKG K240 Studio's. But they wouldn't have enough bass for you.
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Not sure if you've already picked up some headphones but if not check out the KLH Ultimate One. They're on sale at music direct. Looking at the reviews the sound might be what you'd like. A mildly boosted low end but otherwise fairly neutral. Most headphones have a boosted bass and treble. Some unbearably so, for me anyways. The only truly neutral headphones I'm aware of are the AKG K240 Studio's. But they wouldn't have enough bass for you.
thanks , you probably can tell i'm a raw newb at phones..i'm moving to an apartment and i may need a pair , since i like neutral speakers i knew it'd be tough.. thanks again , i'll refer back to this post ...

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thanks , you probably can tell i'm a raw newb at phones..i'm moving to an apartment and i may need a pair , since i like neutral speakers i knew it'd be tough.. thanks again , i'll refer back to this post ...
Yeah I sold my house and am in an apartment now. Miss the space in the house for sure. I won't allow myself to use a sub so it's just bookshelf speakers/soundbar/headphones. If you get headphones also consider the ones I have now - Hifiman HE400i. They are open back and planar magnetic so they have a very open sound and a semblance of a soundstage and imaging. You can get them for under $200 now. $500 originally.

The cool thing about headphones is a good pair of headphones has the detail, clarity, accuracy of speakers that cost far far more. WAY more expensive. But of course it's mostly in your head and you lose the acoustics of the room. It's a trade-off.
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sennheiser hd600 is gold standard...that model is 20ys old tho. newer models like massdrop https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx would be my choice or cheaper hd58xx jubilee
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Yeah I sold my house and am in an apartment now. Miss the space in the house for sure. I won't allow myself to use a sub so it's just bookshelf speakers/soundbar/headphones. If you get headphones also consider the ones I have now - Hifiman HE400i. They are open back and planar magnetic so they have a very open sound and a semblance of a soundstage and imaging. You can get them for under $200 now. $500 originally.

The cool thing about headphones is a good pair of headphones has the detail, clarity, accuracy of speakers that cost far far more. WAY more expensive. But of course it's mostly in your head and you lose the acoustics of the room. It's a trade-off.
I'm thinking I'll be ok with a sub.. It's a 1 floor apt with only one short common wall and good insulation according to the mgr... But i think i better have a plan b for jammin tunes ... The hd 599 were on my short list and tori suggested the hd 600 so I'll give that a look too ,thanks again

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sennheiser hd600 is gold standard...that model is 20ys old tho. newer models like massdrop https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx would be my choice or cheaper hd58xx jubilee
I have the 599 on my short list ..any thoughts?

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I own hd600 and the jubilees from sennheiser...so no opinion. this guy loves and reviews lots of sennheiser headphones.
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I have the 599 on my short list ..any thoughts?

I have the 599s. Sound great and very comfortable. I also have the Audio Technica ATH-M50X. Sometimes I like them more because they are a very slight bit more neutral. However, the 599s have a wider sound stage and, I think, a little better instrument separation. They have slightly more bass and a slightly fuller sound but, again, it's not quite as neutral as my other set. Regardless, you will not be disappointed.
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I have the 599s. Sound great and very comfortable. I also have the Audio Technica ATH-M50X. Sometimes I like them more because they are a very slight bit more neutral. However, the 599s have a wider sound stage and, I think, a little better instrument separation. They have slightly more bass and a slightly fuller sound but, again, it's not quite as neutral as my other set. Regardless, you will not be disappointed.
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UPDATE:.. so i ended up trying the philips shp 9500 at $75.. so far other than some sibilance on brighter tracks , not bad .. i'd say they are the equal of decent $300 speakers (like the ascend cbm 170's) for overall sound quality .. thanks to everybody for the rec's..

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further update : i can see why lots of people like these headphones .. they are mid heavy and any sibilance is easy to eq out of the equation... they aren't super detailed but are pretty good ,imo... they might be a bit thin at the top of the vocal region , but most instruments sound solid (piano , guitar, elec. bass).. i imagine at some point i will give a pair of senn's a try... but these do what i need , they let me enjoy the music without disrupting anybody else...

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