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post #1 of 11 Old 06-11-2020, 09:36 PM - Thread Starter
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HD6XX or ?

just dipping my toes back into the headphone space after redoing my HT and needing something else to research

i have currently in my headphone collection:

Ultimate Ears triple fi10

sennheiser 558
sennheiser momentum v1
Oppo PM-3
Bose QC35

now that ive discovered desktop DACs/Headphone amps, im looking at whats out there as far as options compared to my desktop setup of a pair of audioengine A5+ with a monoprice 10" studio sub.

the HD6xx seem highly reviewed especially at their price point, $220, but is there a noticeable step up at high priced options, eg focal, hifiman, audeze, etc

these will be primarily used in my home office via dac/amp, jds atom/sanskrit mk2 combo.

should i just get the hd6xx or look at the upper end alternatives?

how much are the diminishing returns past the hd6xx?
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I own some sennheiser hd58xx and hd600's, focal elears, fostex t60rp, and others. comfort overrides everything for me. sennheisers I can wear all day long. most other brands I cant. focals sound better but are too heavy. fostex have ribbon speakers but leather pads make my ears/head sweat. my point is you have to try stuff out.
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I really like my Sennheiser 58x, but my favorite are probably my Hifiman HE400's.

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i just recently started listening to headphones ( so not a great overall source , but i do have plenty of "mid -fi" speaker experience).. i got the philips shp 9500's .... pretty good reference point to start at .. the price was right and they don't suck...i'd do it over again as a starting point .. now i'm looking to get a bit more clarity on the next pair..

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I have HD6xx and I like them in my setup. I do not have any of the ones you've listed, so I cannot compare.



As I answered in another thread here recently, there are no perfect headphones, pretty much all of them have to be EQ-ed.


That was one of the reasons I've got myself a capable DAC+Amp, the RME ADI-2 DAC fs. It has built-in 5-band EQ. When I got my HD6xx, I pulled down measurements for HD650 (there are no measurement for HD6xx, so I used what said to be the closest ones, HD650):
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/654wxtmhl...psl-JW7mOnu_9a
and used it to setup EQ to adjust them. I used 5 out of 6 settings specified as ADI-2 DAC has only 5-band EQ. Nevertheless, the sound they produce now is much better.
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I really like the Philips X2HR. Super comfortable and great for movies.
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i just recently started listening to headphones ( so not a great overall source , but i do have plenty of "mid -fi" speaker experience).. i got the philips shp 9500's .... pretty good reference point to start at .. the price was right and they don't suck...i'd do it over again as a starting point .. now i'm looking to get a bit more clarity on the next pair..
I have a pair of the SHP9500 and they are a good all around headphone. I recently swapped the ear pads with Shure 1840 velour pads and it's a worthwhile upgrade. The Shure pads are about the same thickness as the OEM pads, but they are way more comfortable. They are slightly more dense than the OEM pads, which gives the SHP9500 just enough increased clamping force to stay on your head a little better. I use the SHP mostly for gaming. You can get adapter rings here for the replacement pads, so that you don't have to destroy your old pads. The swap takes all of a few minutes.

https://www.modhouseaudio.com/shp950...d-pad-adapters
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I have a pair of the SHP9500 and they are a good all around headphone. I recently swapped the ear pads with Shure 1840 velour pads and it's a worthwhile upgrade. The Shure pads are about the same thickness as the OEM pads, but they are way more comfortable. They are slightly more dense than the OEM pads, which gives the SHP9500 just enough increased clamping force to stay on your head a little better. I use the SHP mostly for gaming. You can get adapter rings here for the replacement pads, so that you don't have to destroy your old pads. The swap takes all of a few minutes.

https://www.modhouseaudio.com/shp950...d-pad-adapters
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I really like the Philips X2HR. Super comfortable and great for movies.
how do the x2hr compare to the shp's? are they a bit less sibilant? ..i'm pretty much 95% music and the shp's have that 1 weakness , especially on bad recordings..

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how do the x2hr compare to the shp's? are they a bit less sibilant? ..i'm pretty much 95% music and the shp's have that 1 weakness , especially on bad recordings..
Yes. I don't notice any sibilance.

Comparing the two, I can say the treble of the X2HR is a bit more nuanced from the SHP. The X2HR also brings the bass. Things like explosions and gunfire have way more impact on the X2HR than the SHP.

If I have to knock the X2HR for one thing compared to the SHP, it's the weight. They are extremely comfortable, but can be a bit heavy on head after a couple of hours. The SHP is so light I can wear for hours with no discomfort. Both headsets are comfortable in different ways.
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Yes. I don't notice any sibilance.

Comparing the two, I can say the treble of the X2HR is a bit more nuanced from the SHP. The X2HR also brings the bass. Things like explosions and gunfire have way more impact on the X2HR than the SHP.

If I have to knock the X2HR for one thing compared to the SHP, it's the weight. They are extremely comfortable, but can be a bit heavy on head after a couple of hours. The SHP is so light I can wear for hours with no discomfort. Both headsets are comfortable in different ways.
sounds like my next pair will either be senn 5/6 series on sale or the x2hr's.. i'm a ways off from that now , having just started hp listening i want to take my time and see how it goes , i'm still much more comfortable listening to speakers, but hp's have some advantages.. especially when it comes to not bugging others ...

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