Originally Posted by cgpublic
I would interpret the statement specific to the Dolby Vision tag that "The movie will play in the HDR standard that your screen is capable of displaying," to mean that DV tagged titles will play in HDR on non-DV sets.
Since the ATV5 will output anything and everything in HDR, regardless of whether the content is in HDR... while I HOPE that there is an HDR10 base layer under the DV layer in their UHD DV content, it is POSSIBLE there is no HDR10 base layer (like how Vudu does HDR) and what we are actually seeing is the SDR version unconverted to HDR.
This is yet another reason why NATIVE output would be so nice. We'd have more confidence in what we are seeing.
And yes, sure, I am pretty sure I can spot up converts at this point, it's not always immediately obvious, it will be VERY hard to help other folks troubleshoot their systems without seeing the output in person, and it just smells of shenanigans.
That said, having watched some DV titles on my HDR10 setup, I think what I have seen so far looks like a genuine HDR10 base layer is in place and that up conversion is not going on. But I've mostly been watching titles source from 35mm film, so they make modest use of the increased dynamic range of HDR, anyway. More viewing is in order.
By the way, Starship Troopers looked incredibly good, with a genuine 4k scan of the original 35mm film. Sure, some of the effects show their age, but it all feels far more like "practical" effects than a CGI animated movie.... and the space scenes have astounding contrast, the natural film grain in many close ups gives me a warm feeling, and (of course) the satire is more on target today than ever before (which is sad/scary/funny/smart).