Originally Posted by daWill
Anybody else think 4k hdr on netflix looks like crap? I could excuse it for lower resolution/bitrate but a lot of their shows have the black level off too. The ranch for instance looks dim and has an elevated black level to me. Punisher less so, but even it wasn't great, and OMG it has horrible film grain.
Maybe I'm just too damn picky, but the 4k hdr stuff in itunes and then 4k hdr games on xbox one x look great. So I'm hesitant to blame my projector (jvc rs640). I think I might try out amazon too to see if it's just netflix or all 3rd party apps on my atv.
Yesterday I picked up a Roku Streaming Stick+, because I just can't leave well enough alone. I ran the same scene (in Punisher actually) on the ATV, my TV's app, and the Roku. The ATV had noticeably less "pop" in the light bulbs and computers screens etc. I couldn't "side by side", more like one after another, so all I had was my recall cycling through, but I couldn't notice a distinct difference between my TV app and the Roku, but the ATV was definitely more muted in the highlights.
I did the same thing between Roku (Vudu) and the ATV on Sully, and really couldn't pick up a distinct difference like I could on Netflix, but I didn't spend much time with it. I didn't compare Amazon yet.
I wouldn't call the ATV Netflix picture on Punisher crap, other than the intentional crappiness of filling it with grain and not being very colorful, but the lesser highlights were noticeable and that is my favorite part of HDR. Full disclosure...my TV doesn't do DV so I was working with HDR10...so YMMV. I will probably be watching Netflix HDR on my Roku or TV going forward.
That said, on Netflix and Hulu, on some SDR content, I actually prefer the "upscaled" HDR that the ATV sends to my TV when I don't have native dynamic range set. Future Man on Hulu and Dark on Netflix in particular. That's probably scandalous, but I liked it. I like how it looks on WatchESPN as well.