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AirParrot or Airfoil, for example..

You left out AiriFlatus.
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AirParrot or Airfoil, for example..

You left out AiriFlatus.
Along with FullOfHotAirus..

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I tried a soft reset, a hard reset and a full restore with firmware update. None of these have helped and my ATV 4K continues to stay on after the TV and receiver have been turned off
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I tried a soft reset, a hard reset and a full restore with firmware update. None of these have helped and my ATV 4K continues to stay on after the TV and receiver have been turned off
If everything else is off, it would seem to matter very little if the ATV is in standby or not. Is there any particular reason why you want it to be off?
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I tried a soft reset, a hard reset and a full restore with firmware update. None of these have helped and my ATV 4K continues to stay on after the TV and receiver have been turned off
Try turning everything off at the mains... Receiver, TV and AppleTV.... Wait 30 seconds or so, then turn them back on again.

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Decided to call Apple about my 4K movies being HD, not UHD. Movies Anywhere finally checked and they show 4K at MA. VUDU says they are UHD too. Apple says HD.

After being on hold for 30 minutes I hung up.
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I feel sorry for everyone having these HD vs 4K issues with iTunes. I only remember having purchased two movies via iTunes...ever...over the course of many years. Yet iTunes on my Apple TV 4K lists 8 movies as purchased and 4 of them are 4K. I’ll never watch them there, so they are useless to me. All of them are already in my Plex library. Still...pretty odd.

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I just added 6 codes I got from blu rays and they are showing as 4K DV on my ATV

All 6 redeemed at MA

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Play them and see. They probably aren’t unless you redeemed a code from a uhd Blu-ray. You can’t go by what iTunes says. It simply tells you the highest quality Apple has, but not which quality you own.
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I have an X4300H driving a 2017 LG OLED. I see no banding in the Settings icon when set to [email protected]/4:2:2 (which is my default).
Sorry for the necro, rather new to 4k oled hdr and whatnot.

Is this still your default setting?

With match ON, what benefit would you gain from this setting?
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Another high profile TV season drops on Amazon and we still do not have a complete audio fix with the Amazon Apple TV app.

Sneaky Pete S2 (and S1) are not 5.1 on Apple TV. At least the UHD versions.
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I have this set up in two rooms:
Apple TV4K connected via (Apple sold Belkin HDMI Cable) to LG OLED55C7.

Motion is set to De-Judder 3 on the LG TV.
Frame rate matching is set to on (Apple TV4K).

What I realised is Motion is better on the Apple TV4K when watching Amazon Video vs watching Amazon Video on the LG TV. I was not attempting a comparison, but it became obvious on some programs.
Well done Apple.
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I just added 6 codes I got from blu rays and they are showing as 4K DV on my ATV

All 6 redeemed at MA
Were these UHD BDs? Do they playback in 4K? iTunes unfortunately shows 4K on the menu page. But once you play the title, they may be HD only. You'll know for sure once you swipe down while playing.
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If everything else is off, it would seem to matter very little if the ATV is in standby or not. Is there any particular reason why you want it to be off?


I agree completely. Perhaps I am missing something but I changed my sleep time to 10 hours just so I didn’t have to wake it up and wait for it to initialize. It’s a 10 watt device that costs perhaps less than a penny a day for electricity?


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Calling now. On my third xfer. Apple wants to blame MA. When I point out the 4K is correct at MA and at VUDU it is just Apple where its wrong I get xferred.


"unless you redeemed a code from a uhd Blu-ray."

Mine were and still show hd not uhd.
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Sneaky Amazon... Its obvious to me now that the tvOS Amazon Video app was developed to sell more Fire TVs. Everything sounds good when you can watch the recap of Sneaky Pete, but when you go to watch Episode 1 of the new season you'll want to switch over to your Fire TV.

We've discussed this several times in the context of Mrs. Maisel and other popular Amazon series. We were chalking it up to glitch that they needed to address. There's no glitch.
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Spoke with supervisor finally. For any of those movies, we only checked a handful but thinking its across the board, that SHOULD be 4K but aren't through iTUNES, Apple didn't have the 4K version available. Not really. So they won't be 4K until Apple does.

The ones that are working for me like Blade Runner, Apple has the full 4K version in iTUNES.

Once Apple has the 4K version available, mine will update and will be 4K.

That's probably not the whole story but it is consistent with my experience that is close enough to make sense.
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If everything else is off, it would seem to matter very little if the ATV is in standby or not. Is there any particular reason why you want it to be off?
I do not disagree...but I've heard of Comcast bill horror stories with a few people using up all of their data and in a couple of cases the ATV turned out to be the culprit. Of course this happened several months before the ATV 4K was released and I can't say that my ATV 4K is doing this. I also have an ATV gen 4 which sleeps just fine in 15 minutes every time, so why not this one? Perhaps its just me being OCD about one device staying on forever, while the rest aren't.

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Try turning everything off at the mains... Receiver, TV and AppleTV.... Wait 30 seconds or so, then turn them back on again.
Did this in the morning and no luck. However, last night the ATV 4K seems to have gone to sleep anywhere between 2 and 8 hours after I used it. My setting however is to sleep in 15 minutes and I know that it did not sleep in 15 minutes last night and hasn't this morning either.
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Spoke with supervisor finally. For any of those movies, we only checked a handful but thinking its across the board, that SHOULD be 4K but aren't through iTUNES, Apple didn't have the 4K version available. Not really. So they won't be 4K until Apple does.

The ones that are working for me like Blade Runner, Apple has the full 4K version in iTUNES.

Once Apple has the 4K version available, mine will update and will be 4K.

That's probably not the whole story but it is consistent with my experience that is close enough to make sense.
This sounds more like a redemption thread line of posts than an ATV line of posts. Maybe you would benefit from reading through the redemption thread? There's some lessons learned the hard way in that thread that are better learned the easy way! Also, there's several members that have EXTENSIVE experience across the entire redemption eco-system.

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Spoke with supervisor finally. For any of those movies, we only checked a handful but thinking its across the board, that SHOULD be 4K but aren't through iTUNES, Apple didn't have the 4K version available. Not really. So they won't be 4K until Apple does.



The ones that are working for me like Blade Runner, Apple has the full 4K version in iTUNES.



Once Apple has the 4K version available, mine will update and will be 4K.



That's probably not the whole story but it is consistent with my experience that is close enough to make sense.


If the movies you e been talking about are not in 4K HDR (regardless of format) on ITunes, I’m not sure how you expected them to transfer that version there. This has been the case for awhile now. Once and IF ITunes gets those titles, you’d be “upgraded”, but if they never do then you’re stuck with HD on ITunes and would need to watch the UHD version elsewhere (most likely Vudu).
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Let’s hope VUDU updates its Apple TV 4K app......

I’ll have to learn that in Appleland expecting what I’ve actually paid for is apparently unrealistic. What was I thinking?
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Let’s hope VUDU updates its Apple TV 4K app......



I’ll have to learn that in Appleland expecting what I’ve actually paid for is apparently unrealistic. What was I thinking?


Expect that in “everywhere land” since Apple has 4K titles that Vudu doesn’t as well. For digital copies there is still no easy “one shop serves all”. Heck even FandangoNow has titles that neither Vudu or Apple have. As previously suggested it would be good to go over the redemption thread and the google doc so that you know what to expect.
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Well I guess when your logic is ackbasswards that makes sense.

I expect what I pay for.
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Well I guess when your logic is ackbasswards that makes sense.

I expect what I pay for.

How is the logic assbackwards though?
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It appears JS believes he paid Apple for something that they are not delivering to him.
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Were these UHD BDs? Do they playback in 4K? iTunes unfortunately shows 4K on the menu page. But once you play the title, they may be HD only. You'll know for sure once you swipe down while playing.
I wasn’t aware

You are correct, it only shows HD

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Sleep Test Performed. Just an FYI for those having issues with the release version of tvOS.

ATV4K 64GB (A1842 - MP7P2LL/A) running 11.3b4 (15L5198d) and HDMI Firmware 1.118

ALL CEC IN THE DEVICE CHAIN TURNED OFF

Set ATV sleep setting to 15 minutes

Performed warm restart

Set timer on Apple Watch to 15 minutes when Home screen appeared after warm restart

Exactly 15 minutes later the ATV went into sleep mode

Test was a success!

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Sleep Test Performed

ATV4K 64GB (A1842 - MP7P2LL/A) running 11.3b4 (15L5198d) and HDMI Firmware 1.118

ALL CEC IN THE DEVICE CHAIN TURNED OFF

Set ATV sleep setting to 15 minutes

Performed warm restart

Set time on Apple Watch to 15 minutes when Home screen appeared after warm restart

Exactly 15 minutes later the ATV went into sleep mode

Test was a success!

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This has been so hit or miss for me. After using your suggestion of switching my TV to a non HDCP input when turning things off (to fix the issue with the ATV and Sony) and not having that work, I decided to also have the ATV sleep after 1 hour. I was shocked that for days this seemed to work well. The ATV would sleep and each time I turned my system back on, the ATV worked (no black video, no HDCP errors). So I thought I found a combo that was working. I still think the tvOS UI crashes when these errors happen, as my home screen is never on the icon I left it on, but is if it didn't crash.

Now, since yesterday, my ATV just doesn't want to go to sleep. Nothing changed in my setup (still running 11.3b4). I did power everything off today and still not having any luck.

This non-sleep issue is nothing new.....I know I've always complained, going back to the ATV4 that it had sleep issues.
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Congrats Leon. I suspect beta is spot on but 11 2.6 is taking hours to goto sleep here unless forced.

I have 3 ATV4K boxes on both official and beta OS release. Beta is fine; official is not.

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This has been so hit or miss for me. After using your suggestion of switching my TV to a non HDCP input when turning things off (to fix the issue with the ATV and Sony) and not having that work, I decided to also have the ATV sleep after 1 hour. I was shocked that for days this seemed to work well. The ATV would sleep and each time I turned my system back on, the ATV worked (no black video, no HDCP errors). So I thought I found a combo that was working. I still think the tvOS UI crashes when these errors happen, as my home screen is never on the icon I left it on, but is if it didn't crash.

Now, since yesterday, my ATV just doesn't want to go to sleep. Nothing changed in my setup (still running 11.3b4). I did power everything off today and still not having any luck.

This non-sleep issue is nothing new.....I know I've always complained, going back to the ATV4 that it had sleep issues.
I hear ya! The purpose of my simple test was to show that at this "snapshot in time" and with no other variables considered the sleep function works in the current beta. The challenge is that the number of possible variables in the wild is staggering. Every tvOS beta/release seems to take 5 to 10 steps forward and 1 step back, BUT we're making progress!

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