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When I bought it, it's listed as 4k. I don't know why you argue about it.
Because you're wrong.
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I don't know why people claim itunes don't sell 4k. I clearly see it.
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So yeah I will be mad at apple.
This is not a new issue. It's incumbent on the purchaser to read the terms and conditions of "sale". Wherever you purchase you're subject to terms of sale and the future of the company that made the sale. If you remain ignorant of those facts you should only be mad at yourself. By the way, the terms of sale are not part of an Apple keynote or the icons/descriptions in iTunes. They are found at https://www.apple.com/legal/

At least Apple allows you to "archive" an HD copy of your movie and have committed to provide "DRM" support for the foreseeable future. If a company goes out of business (e.g. UV) or loses rights to a streamed asset (e.g. Netflix) it's gone. If the DRM servers for downloaded content go away it's gone.

If you want some assurance of "ownership" buy a disc.

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Because you're wrong.


This is not a new issue. It's incumbent on the purchaser to read the terms and conditions of "sale". Wherever you purchase you're subject to terms of sale and the future of the company that made the sale. If you remain ignorant of those facts you should only be mad at yourself. By the way, the terms of sale are not part of an Apple keynote or the icons/descriptions in iTunes. They are found at https://www.apple.com/legal/

At least Apple allows you to "archive" an HD copy of your movie and have committed to provide "DRM" support for the foreseeable future. If a company goes out of business (e.g. UV) or loses rights to a streamed asset (e.g. Netflix) it's gone. If the DRM servers for downloaded content go away it's gone.

If you want some assurance of "ownership" buy a disc.
Or download them to your Mac. I downloaded my “free digital copies” and the two I have actually purchased. I have not purchased any 4K movies yet. My wife likes “Crazy Rich Asians” It’s on sale for $9.99 and is available in 4K. Is there a way to purchase the 4K version through iTunes on the Mac? We don’t have a 4K set yet. The last time I looked it shows 4K on the ATV 4K, but when you go the purchase screen, it shows 1080P. We would like to have the 4K version so when we do get a 4K set we will be ready.

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Or download them to your Mac. I downloaded my “free digital copies” and the two I have actually purchased. I have not purchased any 4K movies yet. My wife likes “Crazy Rich Asians” It’s on sale for $9.99 and is available in 4K. Is there a way to purchase the 4K version through iTunes on the Mac? We don’t have a 4K set yet. The last time I looked it shows 4K on the ATV 4K, but when you go the purchase screen, it shows 1080P. We would like to have the 4K version so when we do get a 4K set we will be ready.
It shows as 4k in iTunes on my Windows laptop, which is not 4k capable, so I assume if I purchase there it would be 4K.

But it shows as $14.99. It also shows as $14.99 on my iPhone. I know if I purchase on my iPhone I get the 4K versions. Apparently the $9.99 deal has expired.
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Or download them to your Mac. I downloaded my “free digital copies” and the two I have actually purchased. I have not purchased any 4K movies yet. My wife likes “Crazy Rich Asians” It’s on sale for $9.99 and is available in 4K. Is there a way to purchase the 4K version through iTunes on the Mac? We don’t have a 4K set yet. The last time I looked it shows 4K on the ATV 4K, but when you go the purchase screen, it shows 1080P. We would like to have the 4K version so when we do get a 4K set we will be ready.
No downloads of any 4K version is allowed. Max you'll be able to download is 1080p.

Yes, if the listing in iTunes on the Mac says 4K, then you'll get the 4K license. Doesn't mean of course that it will always be available.....that's up to Apple and the studios. However, if the movie is MA and you are connected to MA it will port as 4K.
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Go direct to WB on this issue. They hooked me up with a new code when I accidentally redeemed the 50th Anniversary "2001 ASO" in Vudu instead of MoviesAnywhere. They won't ask for a receipt, just the cover and code pics.

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Just came across the wire. The deal is done. Fasten your seatbelts . . .

Effective immediately, Disney has taken over Hulu.

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It doesn't seem like it's any concern of the FTC that Disney is controlling to much of this enterprise...

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I'm stunned! Should be obvious what they're doing based on their business model and history. I've heard the "vault" marketing angle my whole life.

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Just came across the wire. The deal is done. Fasten your seatbelts . . .

Effective immediately, Disney has taken over Hulu.

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Your maximum quality rights are determined by what's available when you make your purchase or redeem a code. What you can view is then dependent on the capabilities of the viewing device AND the maximum rights you own AND the quality available to stream. If you purchase a title with 4K rights, BUT you stream that title on a 1080P device you will see 1080P. If you have 1080P rights and you stream on a 4K device you only get 1080P etc...

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Leon McKeee likes “Crazy Rich Asians” It’s on sale for $9.99 and is available in 4K. Is there a way to purchase the 4K version through iTunes on the Mac? We don’t have a 4K set yet. The last time I looked it shows 4K on the ATV 4K, but when you go the purchase screen, it shows 1080P. We would like to have the 4K version so when we do get a 4K set we will be ready.
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Well it looks like I lost a lot of 4K at least for the moment.

All the Harry Potters. 2 out of 3 Matrix, Die Hard, Xmen Days of Future Past, ... I don't even remember what else.

It's surely a bummer....
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I'm stunned! Should be obvious what they're doing based on their business model and history. I've heard the "vault" marketing angle my whole life.



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Shouldn’t be, it’s been “in the open” since the investor meeting that they were working towards this. They wanted to get complete control to move the service more easily internationally as well as not have to go through Comcast for any decision having to do with the service (with Comcast’s 30% stake Disney even with controlling shares would need to approach Comcast on every major decision). Disney’s plan from the start was to offer a three pronged service group. Disney+ for family friendly, Hulu for adult themed content and ESPN+ for sports.



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It doesn't seem like it's any concern of the FTC that Disney is controlling to much of this enterprise...


Why when there is plenty of competition with more on the way? They offer and want to offer other studios content on Hulu. This is like saying NetFlix controls too much of NetFlix or Amazon controls too much of Amazon Prime.
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THIS IS NOT PERMANENT!

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Well it looks like I lost a lot of 4K at least for the moment.

All the Harry Potters. 2 out of 3 Matrix, Die Hard, Xmen Days of Future Past, ... I don't even remember what else.

It's surely a bummer....
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For future reference... I'm trying to help anyone that's not familiar with how all this works...

I think this is a good time to, again, reinforce why it's a good idea to have 4K transaction records of titles that are important in your collection. This situation is temporary! We've seen many titles revert to HD, in the past, and they always come back better than when they left. This situation is more serious, but this too shall pass.

The attached images show my iTunes Harry Potter transaction records in MA and also the current status of those titles in Vudu (ported to Vudu and FandangoNOW from iTunes via MA). The third image is an example of how my HP1 title looks in FandangoNOW (shows UHD). This is why it's a good idea to have 4K transaction records that allow the titles to port across retailers when possible

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Because you're wrong.


If I buy a movie that says it's 4k then it's 4k.
If I go to best buy and purchase a 4k disc and when I open it it's HD only.... Oh well.... It's not 4k. They are just packaged in a 4k case.

I don't care if they are the same price or if they upgraded some people for free. Point is that it was listed as 4k when I bought it and it should remain that way.... If this is temporary then that's fine.
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It's going to be really hard to tell now with the latest firmware update without the counts. How are you able to tell? I think we should start a campaign to contact Apple to bring the TV app library counts back. What do you think?

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Apple always tries to provide the best content they can license. Unfortunately, they don't control the studio that licenses the title. When licenses expire then new negotiations must take place. My bet is that Apple will work hard to bring back 4K to all the titles that were originally 4K. They might lose future 4k rights but hopefully studios will be more willing to license 4k titles when they become common place.

Apple fought forever with Disney to license their 4K content but Disney refused unless Apple raised their price on 4K content sales. Apple refused to raise prices on customers and instead dropped Disney 4K from the iTunes movie store.
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Apple always tries to provide the best content they can license. Unfortunately, they don't control the studio that licenses the title. When licenses expire then new negotiations must take place. My bet is that Apple will work hard to bring back 4K to all the titles that were originally 4K. They might lose future 4k rights but hopefully studios will be more willing to license 4k titles when they become common place.
It's just odd. I've never lost anything 4k from Amazon, Vudu, Movies Anywhere or Fandango Now so I guess that's why I don't understand how they could unless it's just for maintenance. Looks like mine are back. I haven't gone thru all of them though.

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It's going to be really hard to tell now with the latest firmware update without the counts. How are you able to tell? I think we should start a campaign to contact Apple to bring the TV app library counts back. What do you think?

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The way I was able to tell is looking in the "store" on my MacBook Pro. That was updated before my iPhone... maybe before my ATV4K.
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Apple always tries to provide the best content they can license. Unfortunately, they don't control the studio that licenses the title. When licenses expire then new negotiations must take place. My bet is that Apple will work hard to bring back 4K to all the titles that were originally 4K. They might lose future 4k rights but hopefully studios will be more willing to license 4k titles when they become common place.

Apple fought forever with Disney to license their 4K content but Disney refused unless Apple raised their price on 4K content sales. Apple refused to raise prices on customers and instead dropped Disney 4K from the iTunes movie store.
I don't think the thing that just happened, with some movies getting temporarily downgraded by Apple from 4K to HD, had anything to do with licensing or business decisions. I think it was just a temporary bug, an unintentional glitch.
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I don't think the thing that just happened, with some movies getting temporarily downgraded by Apple from 4K to HD, had anything to do with licensing or business decisions. I think it was just a temporary bug, an unintentional glitch.


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I don't think the thing that just happened, with some movies getting temporarily downgraded by Apple from 4K to HD, had anything to do with licensing or business decisions. I think it was just a temporary bug, an unintentional glitch.
Could be and it seems to be corrected now. But still you have to keep in mind that it could happen if studios decided to pull their content at some future date. Not much Apple can do about it other than threaten to remove them from the store all together which isn't that much of a threat in the long run.

The studios are really worried that Apple will end up dominating and controlling the movie distribution channel the way that iTunes sort of destroyed the recording industry control of record album sales.
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Could be and it seems to be corrected now. But still you have to keep in mind that it could happen if studios decided to pull their content at some future date. Not much Apple can do about it other than threaten to remove them from the store all together which isn't that much of a threat in the long run.



The studios are really worried that Apple will end up dominating and controlling the movie distribution channel the way that iTunes sort of destroyed the recording industry control of record album sales.


A little revisionist history on the music front. ITunes “saved” the music industry for a time when everyone was just freely trading mp3s although even then that did not hold when the streaming model of music came along.

But really greed killed the music industry by charging outrageous amounts for content.


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I agree with the post above.

I haven't studied it but I know Napster took a bite out of music sales. The small files sizes made it very easy for music to get around and CDs didn't have any form of copy protection either.

I'm not real sure Apple saved the music industry but I'm sure it was important for music to go to the streaming sales model.

I also kind of think better music killed music as in Beatles, Pink Floyd... nothing these days goes to that level of craftsmanship but I'm rather opinionated. New music surely makes it hard for me to shop at certain stores.

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FWIW, Christine and The Hunger Games are still MIA...
I own both of those. I can't remember offhand how I redeemed them so I don't know if I "should" have the 4K of Christine but I know I did have hunger games before it downgraded. I was tempted to rebuy Christine a few times to get the 4K.

I think twice now before rebuying for 4K... I mean, I love the iTunes 4K movies and think they look "good enough" so I never use the handful of UHD discs that I have. However, I watched some of my HD movies recently and they looked good too. Ultimately having iTunes 4K is Wonderfull but at it's current risk level I won't be rebuying iTunes movies I have in HD unless they hit the $4.99 mark.
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Apple fixed one of my biggest issues with the TV app. It is now trivial to be able to watch family share movies. You used to have to download it locally via the iTunes app obscure family purchases section. Now, they just show up in the library tab like a civilized app.


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Apple TV owners' thread.

Looks like the 4K downgrades may be a bug they are working on:

https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/14/itunes-warner-bros-4k/


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