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It's kinda amusing my thread still exists. It's been a while since I've been on. I've dramatically reduced my movie purchases. Most of my purchases are for the Ipad now in which case I just purchase the digital version.

I have a couple movies that I bought that have the 4K Ultra HD. Is there any progress on how to rip these movies?
Encryption has not yet been broken, but there is a tool that can rip titles by accessing a server with the keys that were somehow extracted, maybe from hacked players. I don’t know off hand how many titles are in the database ... several hundred maybe? DeUHD is the tool.

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I just discovered that tsMuxerGUI doesn't speak x265. Is there a tool that will input x265 and AAC and output M2TS?

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I just discovered that tsMuxerGUI doesn't speak x265. Is there a tool that will input x265 and AAC and output M2TS?
tsMuxer can handle HEVC h265 at bitrates BD-50 and below. Anything higher will result in incorrect timings in the M2TS. I would suggest using a container like MKV for your h265 material until a UHD muxer comes along.
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Ripping Blu-Rays II

Does anyone know physic the author of tsMuxer? It is such a powerful tool and could take us to the next generation. I’m sure it takes lots of research and time so maybe we could create a gofundme or donation page to compensate him for coming out of retirement.
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tsMuxer can handle HEVC h265 at bitrates BD-50 and below. Anything higher will result in incorrect timings in the M2TS. I would suggest using a container like MKV for your h265 material until a UHD muxer comes along.
Thanks, I’ll try again and note the error. It did not recognize the file.

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Does anyone know physic the author of tsMuxer? It is such a powerful tool and could take us to the next generation. I’m sure it takes lots of research and time so maybe we could create a gofundme or donation page to compensate him for coming out of retirement.
Converting the index.bdmv, MovieObject.bdmv, .mpls, and .clpi files from version 0200 to 0300 (Blu-Ray to UHD) is trivial and has already been done in many tools. Something is different in the actual .m2ts structure that allows BD-66 bitrate and above to exist in a .m2ts container.
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DeUHD is the tool.
Also, now MakeMKV and AnyDVDHD can do this and apparently DVDFab will have the capability soon. Hopefully the keys will keep flowing!
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Also, now MakeMKV and AnyDVDHD can do this and apparently DVDFab will have the capability soon. Hopefully the keys will keep flowing!
I understand the reasons why, but it's just sad that people have to jump through all these hoops just to make discs they have already bought more accessible.
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I understand the reasons why, but it's just sad that people have to jump through all these hoops just to make discs they have already bought more accessible.
“Us” and “Them” have different ideas on what they are selling us, and different ideas on what we are allowed to do with .. whatever .. we purchased. It’s not a new “disagreement.”

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I understand the reasons why, but it's just sad that people have to jump through all these hoops just to make discs they have already bought more accessible.
Well, I hope that I'm (we're), not considered too 'sad' but, it's a choice!

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What's the recommended external drive for UHD + BD ripping? My drive is on its way out so I need a replacement.
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What's the recommended external drive for UHD + BD ripping? My drive is on its way out so I need a replacement.
Good starting point would be here:

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Sort of a bystander here, no 4K anything yet. I visited the link and then javanpohl’s link to myce. Saw this “AACS 2.0 copy protection on Ultra HD Blu-ray discs has major, easy to exploit, loophole” AND MY JAW DROPPED!

After all of the supposedly brilliant minds that developed the protection for the movie industry’s precious 4K material, WTF? A loophole?

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Sort of a bystander here, no 4K anything yet. I visited the link and then javanpohl’s link to myce. Saw this “AACS 2.0 copy protection on Ultra HD Blu-ray discs has major, easy to exploit, loophole” AND MY JAW DROPPED!

After all of the supposedly brilliant minds that developed the protection for the movie industry’s precious 4K material, WTF? A loophole?

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Yup...and it's fantastic!
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If anyone has any special way or technique to clean the blu ray disc to back up please let me know. I have WH16NS40. I have some blu ray movies failed to back up (making MKV files) i.e disc errors reading. I use the same cloth that clean eye glasses to clean as much I can on the disc and still have errors. The disc plays perfect on my blu ray player. I am using Makemkv to rip up the movies.

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Likely, there are pressing errors that pass through players unnoticed but cause rips to fail. Out of 300 titles I had 3 like that. I replaced them and the replacements rips ok. There was no dirt and nothing to clean. The errors were not visible.

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If anyone has any special way or technique to clean the blu ray disc to back up please let me know. I have WH16NS40. I have some blu ray movies failed to back up (making MKV files) i.e disc errors reading. I use the same cloth that clean eye glasses to clean as much I can on the disc and still have errors. The disc plays perfect on my blu ray player. I am using Makemkv to rip up the movies.

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If anyone has any special way or technique to clean the blu ray disc to back up please let me know. I have WH16NS40. I have some blu ray movies failed to back up (making MKV files) i.e disc errors reading. I use the same cloth that clean eye glasses to clean as much I can on the disc and still have errors. The disc plays perfect on my blu ray player. I am using Makemkv to rip up the movies.

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Whenever I've had issues (usually with newer movies), updating MakeMKV has taken care of it.
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If anyone has any special way or technique to clean the blu ray disc to back up please let me know. I have WH16NS40. I have some blu ray movies failed to back up (making MKV files) i.e disc errors reading. I use the same cloth that clean eye glasses to clean as much I can on the disc and still have errors. The disc plays perfect on my blu ray player. I am using Makemkv to rip up the movies.
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use a different blu-ray drive to read out the disc... also, try cleaning the disc with a lens cleaning solution... use a specialty program like AnyDVDHD that will slow down read speed and read out problematic sectors multiple times...
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I give my procedure in the OPPO 203 FAQ: What do I do if a disc will not play?

Some scoff, but I have recovered a lot of discs this way.

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Yes I have done this with some new HD DVDs and one or two new Blu-rays. to get them to play. I also remember my DVD copy of Titanic had an issue of freezing on the beginning of one of the chapters and I tried this method for the first time since I figured if it didn't work I would need to buy a new copy anyway. Surprisingly it worked and I always try this when I have new discs that have play back issues.

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Some scoff, but I have recovered a lot of discs this way.

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Thank you all - I will give the disc a wash and see if my drive can read and rip it. Thanks
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use a different blu-ray drive to read out the disc... also, try cleaning the disc with a lens cleaning solution... use a specialty program like AnyDVDHD that will slow down read speed and read out problematic sectors multiple times...
FWIW, when I have had a disc I couldn't rip, it wouldn't rip in any of my three drives, cleaning did not help and neither AnyDVD HD nor MKV could rip it. There *are* bad discs. Hopefully the OP can resurrect theirs. But what has worked in some cases for others may not work for all.

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FWIW, when I have had a disc I couldn't rip, it wouldn't rip in any of my three drives, cleaning did not help and neither AnyDVD HD nor MKV could rip it. There *are* bad discs. Hopefully the OP can resurrect theirs. But what has worked in some cases for others may not work for all.
I have recovered data from over 30+ different discs, using my above stated procedure... and these were all burned on Verbatim Blu-rays, one of the top brands, all 100% verified after burn...

another (good) blu-ray reader is the best chance...

matter of fact, using AnyDVD HD (or any specialty readout program) is an absolute savior, as many times when it says "read error", u can simply click "try again" and it will re-attempt... on some discs I did that 20-30 times (u will see progress if the sector numbers are slowly changing), until it got past the part of the disc ("bad" sectors that it then finally managed to read out at 0.01 MB/s) that had issues... it did then 100% completed the readout of the disc...

does not work always, but like I said I recovered from 30+ discs...

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I think we are all saying the same thing.

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depends... ;-)

matter of fact, I had issues reading out discs on the high-end Plextor drive, that played fine on the PS3/PS4... used a super old notebook with a cheap ass, slow blu-ray drive to read out that disc using Any DVD HD...

another last resort to consider:
if the disc has scratches or certain unreadable sectors that even after X attempts won't read, see if the main movie is a single .m2ts file and see if u can just copy that one... u's lose menus and extras, but who cares...

here's another interesting thing I encountered (three times):
the blu-ray drives they kinda "exhaust" or perform better worse after a certain amount of time... I tried to read out one disc that had some bad sectors and AnyDVD HD could not read no matter how many times I retried... turned off the machine, turned it on 8 hours later, starting reading the disc out... worked on 1st attempt.

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Is there any amount of compression that is not noticeable?

Sorry if this question has been asked before (I couldn't find an answer anyway in this forum). Is there any amount of compression that can be done, to either video or audio, that will never be noticeable to the human eye/hear? I say "never" because I'm hoping that someday in our lifetimes very high quality 100" TVs and surround sound systems will be affordable (and I know that video can be compressed with no noticeable quality difference if the hardware is lower quality or the screen size to viewing distance ratio is too small). If there is a certain amount of compression that can be done with no noticeable quality loss, has anyone ran trials to figure out how much compression that might be and in which format? Thanks for the help.
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Sorry if this question has been asked before (I couldn't find an answer anyway in this forum). Is there any amount of compression that can be done, to either video or audio, that will never be noticeable to the human eye/hear? I say "never" because I'm hoping that someday in our lifetimes very high quality 100" TVs and surround sound systems will be affordable (and I know that video can be compressed with no noticeable quality difference if the hardware is lower quality or the screen size to viewing distance ratio is too small). If there is a certain amount of compression that can be done with no noticeable quality loss, has anyone ran trials to figure out how much compression that might be and in which format? Thanks for the help.


I would bet everyone who encodes their rips has done this. I have. But it's highly subjective. To me my settings result in no noticeable quality loss.

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Sorry if this question has been asked before (I couldn't find an answer anyway in this forum). Is there any amount of compression that can be done, to either video or audio, that will never be noticeable to the human eye/hear? I say "never" because I'm hoping that someday in our lifetimes very high quality 100" TVs and surround sound systems will be affordable (and I know that video can be compressed with no noticeable quality difference if the hardware is lower quality or the screen size to viewing distance ratio is too small). If there is a certain amount of compression that can be done with no noticeable quality loss, has anyone ran trials to figure out how much compression that might be and in which format? Thanks for the help.
Really depends on the person. My wife can't see any difference between DVD and BR...mainly because she isn't looking for or cares about video quality. I can't see the difference the difference between a BR disc and an H.265 rip of about 50% size.

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I can't see any difference at 50%... At 25%, I can see some slight image degradation but to me, it's very negligible. It is also very dependent on the Handbrake setting you use. If you use Super HQ or HQ mode, the end result is extremely well done. But using that mode can take you a few hours to rip a two hour movie. While handbrake is able to use Intel's QSV mode to encode a movie, I find the quality a tad worse than using handbrake's internal transcoder.

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