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Depends. Most agree the Sony VW600 has a top notch scaler. I do not see much difference between a Panasonic DMP-BDT220 BD player and the FMP-X10 on HoC, S1 (when the X10 manages 1080). During prime time the X10 bounces up and down between 480, 720 and 1080, the 220 does not. The odd part is the X10 will play HoC, S2 & 3 at 2160 during those same time periods.
I will need to pay closer attention, but my impression has been that 1080p Netflix on my X900a looks just as good as it does on the X10. And since I can get Netflix running quicker on the X900a, that is the client I have been using by default.
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No Sound with Vizio TVs-A big Thanx to thread starter and contributors!

I am the Vizio 4K TV user who got no sound from the Media Player on any file type. Sony was not helpful ("maybe in the next software release it will work"). Contributors on this forum helped me solve this problem which came up at first on the FMP-X1 model. I purchased an HDMI audio extractor for thirty-odd bucks on amazon and problem solved! I run the Audio only HDMI (port 2) to the extractor and then to my sony video receiver amp. My FMP-X10 no longer is a paperweight (my amp is 8 years old and a direct connection to one of my amp's pass-thru HDMI ports did not work either). I also figured out how to setup a SEN account without the need for an "activation code" (confusing Sony webpages or my age to blame here).
The contributors to AVS in several threads have helped me get the most out of this Media Player, DVRs', cameras and other electronics. Very glad it exists!!
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Wow, even the 1080p content on Netflix looks so much better when you stream it through the x10, as opposed to directly from the TV app or ps4. The upscaling is so impressive! Looks almost like true 4k! And still waiting on amazon app Sony! 😕 where you at!?!!! Lol oh well, its Sony after all, and Netflix is adding more content by what I've seen lately.

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I bought the Samsung 75" 4K TV (UN75JU7100FXZA) this week and it has Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Ultraflix built in as well as the option to install other apps.

I also bought the Sony FMP-X10 (without reading up on it). Upon plugging it in and setting it up I notice that a lot of the content is the same whether I access it through Netflix or Amazon Prime. Is there any point in keeping the FMP-X10 or should I return it to Amazon?
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I bought the Samsung 75" 4K TV (UN75JU7100FXZA) this week and it has Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Ultraflix built in as well as the option to install other apps.

I also bought the Sony FMP-X10 (without reading up on it). Upon plugging it in and setting it up I notice that a lot of the content is the same whether I access it through Netflix or Amazon Prime. Is there any point in keeping the FMP-X10 or should I return it to Amazon?

The X-10 downloads 4K movies as well as streams through Netflix. The image quality of downloaded 4K material is much better than streaming.
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I bought the Samsung 75" 4K TV (UN75JU7100FXZA) this week and it has Amazon Prime, Netflix, and Ultraflix built in as well as the option to install other apps.

I also bought the Sony FMP-X10 (without reading up on it). Upon plugging it in and setting it up I notice that a lot of the content is the same whether I access it through Netflix or Amazon Prime. Is there any point in keeping the FMP-X10 or should I return it to Amazon?
You don't say, but I assume your Amazon and Netflix streaming is at 4K resolution, correct? While I agree with Carlos that downloaded 4K content will have better quality than streamed 4K content, it becomes a question of whether the downloadable content on the Sony Entertainment Network is worth the cost of the X10, and worth the high cost of the purchases. And I still think that streamed 4K looks pretty darn good.

I have owned the X10 for over a year. I purchased it for its streaming capabilities, and have not used the purchase/download option very much. If my X900a could stream 4K, I never would have purchased the X10. I know if I were in your situation, I would return it. JMO.
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You don't say, but I assume your Amazon and Netflix streaming is at 4K resolution, correct? While I agree with Carlos that downloaded 4K content will have better quality than streamed 4K content, it becomes a question of whether the downloadable content on the Sony Entertainment Network is worth the cost of the X10, and worth the high cost of the purchases. And I still think that streamed 4K looks pretty darn good.

I have owned the X10 for over a year. I purchased it for its streaming capabilities, and have not used the purchase/download option very much. If my X900a could stream 4K, I never would have purchased the X10. I know if I were in your situation, I would return it. JMO.
Yeah, it's 4K content I'm streaming on Netflix, Amazon, and Ultraflix. Thanks for the feedback. I'll send the X10 back and perhaps get one when I get the Sony 4K projector for my theater room.
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Chappie 4K should be available to rent today on the x10 as its bluray and digital counter part are released all over.

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Well it's Downloading again....

Well it's Downloading again.......Could it be (blank) ?
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Well it's Downloading again.......Could it be (blank) ?
Amazon 4K? We can only hope!
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I have had an x10 Since it was first released and I'm just pretty disappointed at how little content Sony has put onto it..It has been a giant bust IMO almost as bad as the Google TV STB's that Sony was selling a few years back..they abandoned them and haven't offered anymore upgrades to the OS and you cant take advantage of any new apps or media streaming..I just threw away 3 of them and I will be pissed if they just come out with a new streamer to replace the x10 and expect us to pony up for the new and improved model like they did to the x1 people
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Well it's Downloading again.......Could it be (blank) ?
I can only assume the answer was a resounding "NO", considering the juvial atmosphere that continues to loom over this thread.

No shocker there.....:thumbup:

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Lack of content on this thing IS ridiculous. Sony Music represents tons of recording artists - WHERE ARE THEIR 4K VIDEO RELEASES!
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Lack of content on this thing IS ridiculous. Sony Music represents tons of recording artists - WHERE ARE THEIR 4K VIDEO RELEASES!
Is there a list somewhere of all 4K titles available on the FMP-X10? I'm thinking of getting one, but only if there is reasonable amount of high rated 4K movies to chose from, especially epic movies which can be watched multiple times without getting bored, like, um, all Tarantino's movies?
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Is there a list somewhere of all 4K titles available on the FMP-X10? I'm thinking of getting one, but only if there is reasonable amount of high rated 4K movies to chose from, especially epic movies which can be watched multiple times without getting bored, like, um, all Tarantino's movies?
Save your money. Wait for 4K Blu-Ray. There is no list of content to choose from, one of many disappointments with this Sony service.
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Is there a list somewhere of all 4K titles available on the FMP-X10? I'm thinking of getting one, but only if there is reasonable amount of high rated 4K movies to chose from, especially epic movies which can be watched multiple times without getting bored, like, um, all Tarantino's movies?
As AJ replied you are better off waiting for UHD Bluray. Expected by Christmas this year. Here is a recent article that hints at that yet again.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...hdr-mastering/

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I've owned this unit for about a year and had no problems at all. Watching Breaking Bad on Netflix today I got an audio dropout. Hope this isn't the start of an audio issue.
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I'm as excited as the next guy about UHD Blu-ray. But let's not confuse the 2-5 discs likely to be available by Christmas with the plethora of content that in theory should be streamable now and will continue to be needed well into next year if not beyond. This box is still the best bet around, but the lack of Amazon is very painful, and the weird part is that it hurts Sony the most as many of their best first screen devices (eg. all 4K projectors) have no apps whatsoever and therefore depend on the FMP as their content provider. Here in the US at least, Amazon is on par with Netflix or perhaps better when it comes to 4K. In any case, any 4K box at this point should start with the two of those at a minimum. And then go to more.
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Ok, it was all fun and games when it was spring. Now its summer. I think Sony at least owes us an explanation as to the current status of the Amazon app. Anybody have any ideas on the best way to get an official update?

Nvidia Shield STB is out (not sure if truly shipping in volume yet), offers Netflix 4K, and my guess is it has Amazon 4K as well. Can anyone confirm? If there is another much less expensive STB that beats the X10 to the punch on Amazon 4K that would be unacceptable in my book...

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In any case, any 4K box at this point should start with the two of those at a minimum. And then go to more.
That would rule out the X-10, since it lacks the Amazon app. My prediction is that the top-tier 4K Blu-Ray players will include a host of 4K streaming capabilities as well.
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Ok, it was all fun and games when it was spring. Now its summer. I think Sony at least owes us an explanation as to the current status of the Amazon app. Anybody have any ideas on the best way to get an official update?

Nvidia Shield STB is out (not sure if truly shipping in volume yet), offers Netflix 4K, and my guess is it has Amazon 4K as well. Can anyone confirm? If there is another much less expensive STB that beats the X10 to the punch on Amazon 4K that would be unacceptable in my book...
From the recent review of the NVIDIA Shield by Engadget

"the Shield box has been certified by the media company. YouTube has its share of 4K video, too, but other major players like Amazon are noticeably absent from the mix."
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Save your money. Wait for 4K Blu-Ray. There is no list of content to choose from, one of many disappointments with this Sony service.
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As AJ replied you are better off waiting for UHD Bluray. Expected by Christmas this year. Here is a recent article that hints at that yet again.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...hdr-mastering/
Don't be so sure. The few hardware manufacturers around may have 4K Blu Ray players available but the industry has stated and Sony has told its stock holders BLU RAY IS DEAD and dying faster than anticipated.
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Don't be so sure. The few hardware manufacturers around may have 4K Blu Ray players available but the industry has stated and Sony has told its stock holders BLU RAY IS DEAD and dying faster than anticipated.
Well this leaked document from 3 days ago must be bogus then???

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1343...blu-ray-player
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Well this leaked document from 3 days ago must be bogus then???

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1343...blu-ray-player
Read my comment again. I never said there would be no 4K BluRay discs or BLu Ray players .
Blu Ray sales have had a drastic decline and the manufacturers and media industry has said the format is dead.
Your noted web comment says : "But with Netflix likely to offer plenty of content by the time these discs launch,
it may already be too late for Blu-ray. Especially as a new format always takes a while to adopt for content providers."
Personally the more formats that are available the better for us the users.
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You stated Blu-Ray is dead? But yet isn't UHDBR still blu-ray? If it were dead then how can it be released? Now you say dying when shown an article on a new UHDBR player....what industry has said it was dead? I know sales have been declining, but if it were dead then why not pull out of it entirely? Hmmmmm


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IDK where you are getting your information that sales of BDs are declining?..Overall disc sales are down yes but BD's are up as are bd players..its dvd and cd's that took a sharp drop..and FYI al major studios and retailers have cut the cost of blurays in anticipaction of the 4kbd and hdr being out before christmas.....you can get boxsets for 20 bucks of 5 -8 movies that 1 year ago cost 20 each
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IDK where you are getting your information that sales of BDs are declining?..Overall disc sales are down yes but BD's are up as are bd players..its dvd and cd's that took a sharp drop..and FYI al major studios and retailers have cut the cost of blurays in anticipaction of the 4kbd and hdr being out before christmas.....you can get boxsets for 20 bucks of 5 -8 movies that 1 year ago cost 20 each
One of us is off base. I do not make this stuff up. And this is world wide not just the USA

Blu-ray Is Nearly Dead In The Water | Lifehacker Australia

Blu-Ray Is Dying - Kotaku

The 4K Blu-ray format could be dead in the water | TechRadar

The list goes on and on. This is something I do not like as I like having and being able to copy the Blu ray disk. But the competition, Amazon, Netflix, HBO Now, Showtime Anytime etc are taking away the majority of consumers who watch videos. Unlike us the average consumer does not care that the streaming video is more compressed and does not have a lossless audio format.
When they want to watch a video they look at the cost, convenience,and easiness of obtaining the video.
Hopefully as the 4K Blu Ray comes on the slowing disk market Sony will continue to support and develop the FMP-X10 4K media player
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You pulled 2 articles that are over a year old....both related to Sony which has been doing horribly as a company period. Yet UHDBR (supposedly "dead in the water") was just finalized recently. Sony is not the only manufacturer or company involved thankfully.


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You pulled 2 articles that are over a year old....both related to Sony which has been doing horribly as a company period. Yet UHDBR (supposedly "dead in the water") was just finalized recently. Sony is not the only manufacturer or company involved thankfully.


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The articles are not current because Sony reports its
year end results in May. Sony invented the Blu Ray.
If Sony stops supporting BR it it will be dead. BR needs Sony as a hardware manufacturer and a big media supplier.
OPPO who probably might be outselling many BR manufacturers has been smart enough to enter the cell phone, headphone and other markets.
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The articles are not current because Sony reports its

year end results in May. Sony invented the Blu Ray.

If Sony stops supporting BR it it will be dead. BR needs Sony as a hardware manufacturer and a big media supplier.

OPPO who probably might be outselling many BR manufacturers has been smart enough to enter the cell phone, headphone and other markets.

Because no one could buy Sony out....now you are saying "if" before you said "is". Not sure what you're trying to push. Also, it's June so you should be able to find year end results and post new articles that backup your statement.

As far as OPPO "probably, maybe" (which one is it?) outselling "many" manufacturers. Sure if your sample size only includes AVS and the like forums. Even then Panasonic, Samsung etc are very well represented.

We all understand that streaming is cutting into sales especially with the younger generation. Of course they have been saying physical media is "dead" for sometime now. Eventually, maybe, probably they'll be right.


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