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post #1 of 12 Old 12-19-2014, 11:35 AM - Thread Starter
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4K Media Player

Hi all -

From my research on this website, it would seem that holding up off on a 4K streamer would be best. I have the Sony XBR65X850A and LOVE it. I don't regret being an early adopter at all.

Anyway - the Sony media player FMPX10 seems pretty shotty.

I am thinking 3 things:

1.) Wait for the 3rd gen Sony media player

2.) Wait for a TiVo 4k player (I am rabid TiVo fanboy! ha)

3.) Wait for 3rd parties to put out some decent players which doesn't seem to have happen just yet.

Your thoughts would be very welcomed and appreciated!

Thank you ...
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The problem is content even if there was a 4k player out that was decent there is no content you can play.

the FMPX10 is the only device that will have 4k movies.
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The problem is content even if there was a 4k player out that was decent there is no content you can play.

the FMPX10 is the only device that will have 4k movies.
There is Amazon and Netflix though, right?
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netflix 1080p is not available on 98% of android players. 4k netflix will be even less most likely just available on players like the nexus player and some of the special tv models.

Amazon have not heard if they will have restrictions on there 4k or not.
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netflix 1080p is not available on 98% of android players. 4k netflix will be even less most likely just available on players like the nexus player and some of the special tv models.

Amazon have not heard if they will have restrictions on there 4k or not.
Sounds like I need to wait for the 3rd gen of the Sony players.

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netflix 1080p is not available on 98% of android players. 4k netflix will be even less most likely just available on players like the nexus player and some of the special tv models.

Amazon have not heard if they will have restrictions on there 4k or not.
Not sure what you are talking about. NetFlix and Amazon both have 4K content on TVs today. I am waiting for a set-top box like Roku or what-ever to natively support 4K. Can't be too far off, since Sony and other TVs already can do 4K streaming.
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I am thinking we will see more 4k media player/streamers at CES. With the strong push next year I have a feeling the players/streamers will follow suit.


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Not sure what you are talking about. NetFlix and Amazon both have 4K content on TVs today. I am waiting for a set-top box like Roku or what-ever to natively support 4K. Can't be too far off, since Sony and other TVs already can do 4K streaming.
You did not understand correctly, We were talking about 4k players while Netlifx and amazon have 4k content there is no players. Take for instance the android 4k players out now. Most people look at them and say sweet im going to get 4k netflix without realizing that the android based players cant even get 1080p netflix due to netflix restrictions of needing a locked bootloader and widvine DRM.

So its a wait until roku or the likes come out that we might be able to get something. I just dont like seeing people buy something thinking it will work for them because there is not much information out there

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It's very frustrating, in 4K content right now.

TVs have built-in YouTube and Netflix clients that can receive 4K streams (also Amazon?). But there is no standalone device (as of today) that can receive the 4K streams from any of the available sources right now, to my knowledge. There are Android-based "4K" players that will upconvert content, but as halfelite noted, the players on those devices do not currently offer a Netflix client that can receive the 4K stream, only the 1080p one.

Current Roku (3), AppleTV (3), etc. standalone boxes are in the same boat: Not only are they limited to 1080p output, the clients on them don't support the 4K streams (and probably never will, since why bother then they are hardware limited to 1080p anyway).

BluRay players with 4K upconversion are in the same boat as the Android 4K streamers: The clients do not (currently) offer the special Netflix client that offers 4K streams. Again, as of today, the ONLY option to stream 4K from Netflix, Amazon, etc. is to use the client built into your 4K TV. (Maybe possible with an adequately beefy HTPC computer? I've never tried that as my PC monitors are only 1920x1200 max res.)
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But there is no standalone device (as of today) that can receive the 4K streams from any of the available sources right now, to my knowledge.

The Sony FMP-X10 can stream Netflix UHD streams. Word is the player will get Amazon UHD first of next year. See the X10 thread in this section.
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The Sony FMP-X10 can stream Netflix UHD streams. Word is the player will get Amazon UHD first of next year. See the X10 thread in this section.
Ah, ok, well, other than the Sony device, which certainly has it's own share of drawbacks. Not a solution I would entertain, personally. I'm hoping for a true third party solution (Roku, Dune, etc.), not a massively proprietary DRM-laden device pedaled by a major studio with limited functionality and expandability. (and I did say "as of today" with regard to Netflix AND Amazon. )
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I also have Sony XBR-65X850A & love it but waiting for likes of Roku, Amazon or other mainstream players to release a 4k streaming box. Hopefully we will see something at CES.

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