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Comparing Apple Music, Tidal, and Spotify Premium Streaming-Music Services



Mark Henninger compares the sound quality, track selection, and usability of three leading subscription-based streaming-music services.

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I gave up buying music on physical media many years ago, back in the early MP3 era when Napster and Real Player were competitors and there was no such thing as an iPod. The books of CDs that sit in my basement are all two decades old and stand as a dusty testament to progress. Aside from playing a vinyl record on occasion, all the music I listen to these days comes from digital files stored on a solid-state drive or streamed from the cloud.

The catalyst that caused me to switch from ripping CDs and buying downloadable albums from iTunes was the launch of Tidal, and specifically its Hi-Fi subscription package. The promise of millions of truly CD-quality tracks for $20/month proved irresistible. I first encountered Tidal streams at CES 2015, where they served as the source for a variety of audio demos; I loved the idea that I could go home and hear the exact same track play on my system.

For a few months after getting Tidal, it was as if iTunes had ceased to exist. I own hundreds of downloaded albums purchased on iTunes and a couple hundred more albums ripped from CDs. Tidal offered almost all the titles contained in my collection. Most of what I had purchased from iTunes was now available at superior quality as a stream. Therefore, I began the process of rebuilding my collection on Tidal.

The impetus for this article was Apple's recent introduction of its Apple Music subscription service. Because I already use iTunes, it was a no-brainer to sign up for the three-month free trial.

In order to make the comparison a bit more interesting, I decided to add Spotify Premium to the mix—after all, it's currently the most popular streaming-music service. When I logged onto Spotify, I discovered that I had used up my free trial about two years ago. Apparently, I did not find it compelling enough to pay for at the time, so I forked over the $10 monthly fee and I was back in.

I quickly discovered I enjoy having access to all three services, because the catalogs of the three services are not identical; when I started to search for various artists, I'd find an occasional album that I could only access on one of the services. However, more often than not, the service with the largest selection turned out to be Apple—the service with the lowest bitrate.

Apple's music offerings feature a 256 Mbps bitrate using the AAC format (the successor to MP3) while Spotify Premium offers 320 kbps streams in Ogg Vorbis format, which is a high-performance open-source streaming codec. Tidal's lossless offering is identical to CDs: 16-bit/44.1 kHz with a 1411 kbps bitrate delivered in FLAC format. The service also offers 320 kbps AAC-encoded streams for a lower monthly rate: Tidal charges $10/month for that, half as much as uncompressed CD-quality streams.

Tidal offers a convenient tool to test if you can hear the difference between its 320 kbps and lossless streams. Although it's meant to show how clearly superior uncompressed music sounds, I found it relatively difficult to identify the lossless versions of the tracks. Listening on high-quality headphones in a silent room and concentrating on the task produced the best results. When listening through speakers, I found it was effectively impossible to identify the uncompressed stream with total confidence.


Reliability

When it came to uninterrupted playback, Tidal stood out from its competitors—and not in a good way. In my network, on four separate PC-based systems, it was consistently the least reliable at streaming audio.

At first, I thought Tidal's troubles were due to the bandwidth required by uncompressed tracks, but in reality, 1411 kbps is not a very demanding data rate. My broadband service is 75 times faster than what's required for a steady CD-quality stream, and I watch 1080p Vudu HDX streams almost daily without any interruption.

A switch to 320 kbps AAC streaming did not fix Tidal's comparatively spotty performance. However, every time I update the Tidal app, reliability does appear to improve—because the service is so new, I'm willing to be patient and forgiving for now. Notably, I have not had any issues streaming Tidal on my iPhone, regardless of the quality level. I've heard anecdotal reports of other Tidal users suffering similar issues when streaming from a desktop.

Apple Music was quite a bit better at keeping the music flowing, but it still suffered an occasional pause when I used iTunes on a PC. On my iPhone, Apple Music performs flawlessly as long as I have Wi-Fi or a decent 4G cell signal.

Spotify Premium has yet to hang up on me, either at home or on the road. I found that it's the champion in terms of reliable high-quality streaming.


User Experience

Most of my music listening is done either at home through full-sized audio systems using a PC as a source, or on the road using an iPhone 6 Plus and a pair of good headphones. For my needs, all three services have apps that make it easy to get the music I want, when and where I want it.

I like the look of Tidal's desktop-player app for PC, and I found the interface quite easy and intuitive to navigate. The layout is clear and self-explanatory. A menu on the left offers music-discovery options such as the What's New, Tidal Discovery, and Tidal Rising sections. Genres and Videos offer additional opportunities to find something fresh. Under the My Music menu item, there's a variety of submenus offering access to your personal music collection sorted by artist, album, track, or playlist.

The Tidal iPhone app is similarly easy to use, with the same menu layout and options as the PC app. With portable devices, Tidal offers an offline mode that allows you to download content, which is great for loading up on music while you're in a Wi-Fi zone so you can enjoy uncompressed music without hitting your monthly data cap. The Android version of the Tidal app is effectively identical to the iOS version and worked flawlessly on my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro.

Apple Music relies on iTunes when using a PC. That's both a gift and a curse. On the plus side, iTunes is very familiar—I've been using it for many years. Conveniently, Apple Music seamlessly integrates with my existing music collection—including ripped CDs and albums bought on iTunes. It really brought my music collection together. I also appreciate iTunes' support for third-party visualizers—I use Aeon by SoundSpectrum. The problem is, iTunes is a bit bloated compared to the apps from Tidal and Spotify because it handles numerous other duties—unlike the others, it's not 100% focused on music.

Apple offers pathways to new music discovery. A menu at the top of the screen offers several options including For You, Apple's attempt to intuit what you might like based on what you listen to. The New tab offers the latest releases, and iTunes Radio offers genre-specific channels. The Connect tab is the social element of the platform; it's all about commenting on and connecting with specific artists.

My Music and Playlists buttons let you access your local content as well as songs and albums, and you can essentially treat tracks obtained with an Apple Music subscription the way you would with purchased iTunes content.

With an iPhone, it's easy to take advantage of Apple Music on the go. A recent update to iOS enabled the service, which can be found under the Music icon. There will be an Android app for the service, but that's a couple months away. I like to think I am tech savvy, and Apple likes to think it makes intuitive software, but the process of getting everything working—namely the need to use iCloud Music to manage my music collection—struck me as somewhat tedious and annoying. I'm not a software critic, but I found it less elegant and intuitive than Tidal's app. Nevertheless, if you have an iPhone, the software is already there and you can't remove it, so perhaps it's best to embrace it instead.

Spotify impressed me with the snappy response of its PC software. The speed with which it launches, searches, and navigates sets it apart from Tidal and Apple Music. While I preferred the look and layout of Tidal's player, Spotify earned my loyalty because it is fast. Another aspect of Spotify I enjoyed is how it shows what your Facebook friends are listening to and shares their playlists.

Spotify offers a comprehensive set of music-discovery tools. Under the Browse menu, you can choose between Charts, Genres & Moods, New Releases, and Discover (Spotify's recommendation engine). The Spotify app also sees and plays local content—except Apple Music downloads.

The mobile Spotify app had the same snappy feel as the desktop app. As with Tidal, the interface is the same on iOS and Android. Everything about the app felt just a bit faster than Tidal or Apple Music, from the installation to login to searching for content. I had no issues with navigation

All three services offer varying degrees of compatibility with music-playback devices like dedicated music servers and wireless speakers such as Sonos and Denon HEOS, both of which support Spotify and Tidal as well as many other music-streaming services. Spotify's app is everywhere, even on many smart TVs as well as networked AVRs. Apple Music is restricted to iOS devices, PC, and Mac. Apple TV and Android compatibility arrives this September.


Selection

All three services offer deep catalogs of music across many genres. In a few cases, one service has an exclusive—for example, Prince's music is only available to stream on Tidal, and Apple has an exclusive on Taylor Swift's latest album, 1989.

For the most part, if one service had an album in its catalog, all three had it, but I found enough exceptions to make having more than one subscription seem worthwhile. When it comes to great music, more options are always better.

The overlap between catalogs is not a huge surprise; each service has around 30 million tracks to choose from. Ultimately, though, the catalogs are not identical. Moreover, as Neil Young's recent declaration that he's removing his music from all streaming services shows, music that's available now might not be available in the future.


Quality

My personal interest in streaming-music services started with Tidal. The promise of CD-quality uncompressed streams was more than enough incentive to get me to sign up for the $20/month service. I've spent a fair amount of time performing ABX tests using online tools as well as Foobar 2000, and I can reliably tell the difference between 256 kbps compressed streams and uncompressed CD-quality audio.

It's a lot harder to tell the difference between 320 kbps streams and CD-quality audio. Good headphones help—using the Tidal test I mentioned earlier, I was able to choose the uncompressed version about 70% of the time. For me, that's enough to justify the extra 10 bucks a month cost of a Hi-Fi subscription on Tidal. Nevertheless, to my ears, the differences are vanishingly small and require concentration to detect.

After listening to a wide variety of music spanning the gamut from Bill Laswell's In Dub to the new Snoop Dogg album Bush, from Enya to Beethoven to Bassnectar to the Beatles, I started to gravitate toward using Spotify as my primary go-to player. Tidal served that purpose in the past, but its unreliability grew tiresome. The difference between uncompressed Tidal streams and Spotify Premium streams are trivial enough that I went for the faster, more reliable platform: Spotify.

Unfortunately, with Apple Music, the audibly inferior quality of its 256 kbps streaming was detectable. There was a very slight loss of dynamics and clarity—nothing to panic about. When I first switched to Tidal, it was because I heard an improvement over standard iTunes 256 kbps downloads. That remains the case with Apple Music.

Ultimately, the quality of each service is a byproduct of the bitrate it uses. Apple is the stingy one at 256 kbps, while Tidal and Spotify have parity at 320 kbps. Tidal ups the quality ante with 320 kbps AAC streams as well as uncompressed streams—albeit at a higher monthly cost. In the near future, the service promises beyond-CD-quality streaming using the new MQA format from Meridian. I hope that with MQA, Tidal can widen the quality gap between its top-tier streams and 320 kbps AAC.


Conclusion

Exploring new music and growing an album collection without having to worry about buying anything is intoxicating. Currently, I plan keep my Apple Music subscription when the free trial runs out. While I wish the company would offer a higher bitrate as an option, I'm a sucker for the sense of security Apple offers. I also plan to continue subscribing to Tidal Hi-Fi because—at 20 bucks a month—it serves as my primary music source when I review gear. For now, it's just about the only game in town when it comes to uncompressed streams.

While I can tolerate an occasional playback glitch when writing reviews, that's not the case when I'm relaxing with friends. For that, Spotify turns out to be the best bet—especially considering the social-media integration and the large user base Spotify enjoys thanks to its free offering—something Apple Music and Tidal don't have going for them.

One of my primary concerns is the future survival of any given service. I'm not so much worried about losing the music—the cloud is literally the best thing ever for music collectors. Even so, I do worry that if I carefully construct a collection in Tidal and it goes out of business, I'll have to rebuild the collection somewhere else. I don't have a similar concern with Apple; the company appears to be here to stay for a while. As for Spotify? I suspect it will survive and thrive as a stand-alone service—that's not tied to a major brand like Apple or a major celebrity like Jay-Z—because it does what it does faster and more reliably than its competitors.

Of course, the three services I examined for this article are far from the only streaming-music options out there. Amazon, Google, Rdio, Xbox Music, and Rhapsody all stream music. In other words, there are many options when it comes to monthly music subscriptions.

If Tidal was a more established company and its player was as reliable as Spotify—the most recent update appears to be stable—it would be my first choice among the three streaming services I've discussed here. If you are already invested in Apple's ecosystem, it could be worth subscribing to Apple Music.

Ultimately, if I had to choose just one streaming music service, I'd opt for Spotify Premium. For now, it offers the best balance of price, performance, quality, compatibility, and selection. As it stands, I'm going to opt for keeping all three.

One final note—if you love an album and want to support the artist, buy a CD, hi-res download, or vinyl record of their work. Streaming is a great way to discover music and grow a collection, but nothing beats actual ownership of great albums from great musicians. I'm sure the artists appreciate the financial support—especially the ones who are not world-famous and super-rich like Prince, Taylor, and Neil.

I look forward to your comments. Do you pay to stream music? Is there a streaming service you prefer? What are Tidal and Spotify's chances of long-term survival with Apple in the game?


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Sony Vaio Windows 8 laptop with SSD
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Amplification and Processing

Crestron Procise PSPHD pre/pro
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Pioneer Elite SC-85 receiver
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Headphones

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Cables

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Pretty happy with Spotify here. Switched over to them when Mog was purchased by Beats and Beats is now Apple Music? No intention on switching. Spotify's app is readily available across many platforms besides smart phones.

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True, including many smart TVs and connected AVRs. I added that detail to the article.
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Nice review. Its nice to see an honest review with real world listening and user interface. I have been streaming music for many years starting with ripping my entire CD collection and using a DLNA server to stream to various clients connected to my home audio system. Back then I longed for a streaming service that would offer basically any music I wanted to listen to for a monthly fee. I'm happy that that time is here.

Streaming is all about convenience. I'm a Spotify premium (family plan actually) and really like the service. One of the nice features of Spotify premium is Spotify Connect. Love this feature. Its kind of like Chromecast. You use your mobile device to navigate the Spotify UI, but the audio stream is sent directly to your (supported) AVR. Perfect and how a streaming service should work IMO.

Thank you for providing an honest real world opinion of audio quality vs a jaded audiophile view or a bunch of charts and graphs showing differences that are not audible anyway.

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It took me 10 seconds to find a recording I listened to in my previous service sounded better with Tidal. Now I can't go back.
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It took me 10 seconds to find a recording I listened to in my previous service sounded better with Tidal. Now I can't go back.
Previous service being???
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I periodically read comments suggesting that Tidal offers, at least certain albums, mixes that are not the traditional baked masters commonly released these days. In your experience did you find any widely cooked mixes being indeed more dynamic on Tidal?

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Rhapsody, nice interface and music selection but it is like the life just gets sucked out of the music compared to Tidal on a lot of recordings.
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I'd have to go looking for that. I did not run into anything that jumped out at me, yet. But when (if?) Tidal starts streaming audio in MQA format, that'll definitely be the case.

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Rhapsody, nice interface and music selection but it is like the life just gets sucked out of the music compared to Tidal on a lot of recordings.
Never used it but it appears to be generally a lower bitrate service

Rhapsody continuously evaluates the best way to deliver high audio quality as efficiently as possible. Our mobile apps have the option of streaming Good (AAC+ 64 kb/s), Better (AAC 192 kb/s), and Best (AAC 320 kb/s). Tests show 64 kbps AAC+ is equivalent to 128 kbps MP3, yet requires only half the bandwidth to deliver. Home audio systems use 128 to 192 kbps AAC, depending on the device. PC client downloads in WMA 160 Kbps for offline listening.
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I tried Tidal, and paid the subscription.

Then they sent me email. The first item caught my attention.

So I looked to see what bitches were getting my money.

This was the next email.

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Other than that, I found the breadth to be ok, the depth to be poor, and was annoyed by a buggy player, content that was not 16/44 and other content that was "for sale" only.
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I tried Tidal, and paid the subscription.

Then they sent me email. The first item caught my attention.

So I looked to see what bitches were getting my money.

This was the next email.

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Other than that, I found the breadth to be ok, the depth to be poor, and was annoyed by a buggy player, content that was not 16/44 and other content that was "for sale" only.
Wow, whoever put that first email together was not thinking straight, IMO—no matter how "big" Rihanna is, it sure comes across the wrong way.
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Well-written, informative, honest article. Thanks, Mark!
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I periodically read comments suggesting that Tidal offers, at least certain albums, mixes that are not the traditional baked masters commonly released these days. In your experience did you find any widely cooked mixes being indeed more dynamic on Tidal?

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The new Led Zeppelin release that was remastered is excellent:
http://hometheaterreview.com/led-zep...ng-with-tidal/

The live stream concerts of Jack White and Jay Z were also great quality.

Here is Tidal's interview of Jimmy Page:
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Spotify Premium gets my vote. Now there is a Spotify plugin for Jamcast. That makes it the best for my needs across all devices.
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Great article Mark.

You've really summed things up nicely.

"Intoxicating" is quite apt. It's just so easy to throw on whatever you want on a whim in NO TIME FLAT that it's hard to argue for physical media at this point. I woke up this morning with '90s Lemonheads going through my head, and before I'd even wiped the sleet out of my eyes I had their entire catalog up on my screen and playing. I was actually marveling at the simplicity of it all as I opened up AVS forum and saw your article.

I do find the odd streaming hiccup - but for NOW I'm attributing it to Spotify Canada's ironing out the bugs. Just as an aside, where do you think Rdio or Rhapsody fall into the scheme of things?
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I was an early subscriber to Spotify, and from the beginning I have never experienced a glitch, hiccup or issue. It's been terrific. With that said, when Tidal came along with free trial to their lossless, I had to try. I canceled Spotify, and went on to Tidal. When the flac worked it did sounds great, no question, but as we've heard, the glitches and hiccups are/were annoying. So after about 2 months on the lossless, I canceled and hopped back to Spotify.

After the Tidal acquisition by Jay Z and the new pricing model, they offered 3 month for 9.99, so once again jumped to Tidal to give it a try. As far as quality, 320 from Tidal and Spotify are so similar I can't tell the difference, but I'm still having some issues with the desktop version of Tidal.....soooo, when the promotion ends, going to stay with Spotify....for now.

As for Apples offering, I just don't care.
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I was an early subscriber to Spotify, and from the beginning I have never experienced a glitch, hiccup or issue. It's been terrific. With that said, when Tidal came along with free trial to their lossless, I had to try. I canceled Spotify, and went on to Tidal. When the flac worked it did sounds great, no question, but as we've heard, the glitches and hiccups are/were annoying. So after about 2 months on the lossless, I canceled and hopped back to Spotify.

After the Tidal acquisition by Jay Z and the new pricing model, they offered 3 month for 9.99, so once again jumped to Tidal to give it a try. As far as quality, 320 from Tidal and Spotify are so similar I can't tell the difference, but I'm still having some issues with the desktop version of Tidal.....soooo, when the promotion ends, going to stay with Spotify....for now.

As for Apples offering, I just don't care.
It's helpful to read other accounts of Tidal's tendency to act glitchy. It's the key bit of info to rule out a system-specific issue, although in my case using four different PCs helped rule out any one individual system being the issue. Based on accounts like yours, I can reasonably conclude it's not my broadband pipeline that causes issues with Tidal streams—nor should it be.

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At first, I thought Tidal's troubles were due to the bandwidth required by uncompressed tracks, but in reality, 1411 kbps is not a very demanding data rate.
If you watch the network traffic, they don't really 'stream'. There's one (at most a few) big chunks downloaded per song. Burst activity, nothing like a constant rate at all.

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If you watch the network traffic, they don't really 'stream'. There's one (at most a few) big chunks downloaded per song. Burst activity, nothing like a constant rate at all.
Interesting. Unsurprising now that I think about it. Many video streams work the same way; I've seen that behavior with Vudu, for example.

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... music that's available now might not be available in the future ...

... nothing beats actual ownership of great albums from great musicians ...
I agree.

If I become aware of something new to me, I look it up on youTube, if not there, maybe try on a streamer.

If I like it enough (rarely), I'll look to buy it physically, and then tend to collect all titles of that artist.

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When I stream at the house its background while I do something on the computer or out in the workshop, so cd quality isn't necessary and I use the free Pandora which suits me fine with all 100 of my stations on quick mix. I still listen more to my own stuff on cd or hard drive. When away from home the internet is generally not accessible where I spend my time so prefer recordable and will still buy cd's because of that.

I do wonder how friendly these services are to downloading to a hard drive or device? Is that offered at all? How about manipulation of play lists? Is it easy to compile such lists on an avr or android device for example?
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Great article and review Mark! As we've been discussing in the Neil Young thread I feel it too was a little difficult to tell the difference between 320 kbps audio streams and 1411 kbps audio streams. I have grown accustomed to the free service both Pandora and Spotify has to offer. When I signed up yesterday for Spotify Premium I immediately noticed a big upgrade in audio clarity... comparing Pandora's 64k web player stream to Spotify's 320k web player stream proved to be well worth the trial subscription and will definitely keep me as a subscriber for the premium service.
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The difference between lossless and 320kbs music becomes more apparent when you start to listen to tracks with lots of layers. During complicated pieces a 320kbs song will become muddy and disintegrate into a total mess even with the best setups, while the lossless track will separate all the layers and present the soundstage with imaging and clarity that is lacking in the 320kbs tracks. I recommend trying Sting's "Desert Rose" soundtrack from the "Brand New Day" album and you will clearly hear a runaway winner.
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I appreciate this as I am debating which way to go for streaming music. right now i just use youtube.

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The difference between lossless and 320kbs music becomes more apparent when you start to listen to tracks with lots of layers. During complicated pieces a 320kbs song will become muddy and disintegrate into a total mess even with the best setups, while the lossless track will separate all the layers and present the soundstage with imaging and clarity that is lacking in the 320kbs tracks. I recommend trying Sting's "Desert Rose" soundtrack from the "Brand New Day" album and you will clearly hear a runaway winner.
How did you do on Tidal's 320 kbps vs. Hi-Fi test, just curious...

Thanks for making a specific suggestion. I will give it a shot.

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I have been using Spotify Premium for about a year now. Overall, been pretty happy. The app can be a little glitchy from time to time, the desktop version is great and I've been able to find like 98% of the music I want. Each update for the mobile app gets a little better and better.

My only complaint with Spotify is that the shuffle feature is absolutely horrific. It has tempted me to switch to other companies but unfortunately, we don't really have anything that is better overall.

Spotify, please fix the shuffle feature...
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I tried tidal and just gave up on it, uninterrupted playback is not something they cant advertise anytime soon.

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I've had Spotify for some time... and when Tidal came out... I did try it out... and yes, I noticed a difference between Tidal vs Spotify... both in my HT and my phone...

I did not renew Tidal and stayed with Spotify... Although I enjoyed better audio quality... music discovery was much better on Spotify...

How is the music discovery now on Tidal ?

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