Originally Posted by Johnson-from-Arizona
" if I start defending Roku [guessing that is defined by reporting I do not have an issue],"
No its defined by folks like yourself who work very hard at dismissing people like me.
Nice try of doing exactly that while the whole time trying to be so wordy as to try and convince someone, not sure who exactly, that you aren't.
Not sure what your entire post added to anyone's use of the ROKU device.
Given ROKU had working FW for devices like mine all they had to do was preserve it in their development cycles.
A very basic practice they didn't follow.
They didn't and don't attend to even basic coding practices. Nothing complicated. Basic.
Kinda funny though how you're sure you aren't defending ROKU when you that's all you did.
You probably shoulda included some of those "Just saying" type comments too.
The point of the post was to point out that some of the things you are complaining about are valid and unfortunate pain points, but some aspects are neither necessarily uncommon, nor should be unexpected. Roku no longer supports many older models of the box they sold. Windows 10 does not have drivers for older hardware, just like 8, 7, 95, etc. didn't in their time. I was fairly upset 15-20 years ago when my very expensive force feedback racing wheel was no longer supported for similar issues. Trying to get an older networked printer without native PS to work with a Chromebook is painful. And so on.
The contribution to anyone's use of the device is about the same as any complaint post -- providing a discussion about the state of the device and what someone might expect.
-- Primarily a temper to the assertion about regressions. If you have an older device that was an early version using a complex (and apparently still maturing) standard, you might expect it to have idiosyncrasies that may or may not be maintained as time marches on. Not desirable, but not necessarily different than other technologies.
-- Secondarily a temper to the assertion that anyone "defending" Roku has newer more common equipment by default. That is not binary or black/white as sometimes portrayed.
If asked, I would probably vote to allow folks to keep older versions of the firmware. And I don't disagree that it would be much better if fixing new problems, maintaining currency with an evolving standard (HDR, 4K, etc), and adding more features (probably driven more by advertisers than consumers) never introduced a bug or regression, and the workarounds for idiosyncratic hardware were maintained forever.
So, while I probably agree with more of your arguments and sentiments than you allow, I disagree with how far you take some arguments and expectations. I also don't share the desire to be labeled in an us/them framework, my thoughts on the subject are not that narrow.
To be clear:
The perception that anything there or here is designed at "dismissing people like
[you]" is unfortunate, but not true.
Questioning some of your assertions is not "dismissing
Questioning your assertions is not defending Roku.
I don't know how you define "people like
[you]", but I am fairly certain it is different than any categorization I may have.
I will not apologize for trying to be clear in communication.