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Is the fan loud in the Ultra??
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I will not buy any streaming device, until it can output 24fps. With the JVC RS600(I am sure 400/500 also). You can not use a anamorphic lens with a 60fps output. I know I am probably a minority with using a lens, but

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How hot are these running compared to the Roku 2/3?
The old Roku 3 was 3.5 watts the new Ultra is supposed to be less than 4.5 watts (got to install my Ultra today & test).
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I don`t know if some people are confusing the original 4k with the newly released ultra.
Neither Wal-Mart or Best Buy show the ultra available till later this week.
My Best Buy had 3 Ultras in stock today so I got one. Friday (the 7th release date) both WallyWorld & BB only had the Premier on the shelf.
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Is the fan loud in the Ultra??
I read somewhere that their isn't a fan in the new models, I have not received my ultra yet so I cant confirm if this is true or not.
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I read somewhere that their isn't a fan in the new models, I have not received my ultra yet so I cant confirm if this is true or not.
I read that their wasn't one, and I just personally checked my ultra. I don't see a fan at all, certainly no intake / exhaust ports so, I'd say it's fanless.
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I pre ordered the Roku Ultra when it was first announced and haven't gotten notification it has shipped yet (just one showing it in-process). It's frustrating to see that I could go to my local Best But today and get one instead of waiting several more days.
I'm still waiting for my notification of shipping too. Can't say I'm surprised though. As due to the hurricane I'm waiting for quite a few things to ship as well as things that are being held in place until conditions permit.
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I'm still waiting for my notification of shipping too. Can't say I'm surprised though. As due to the hurricane I'm waiting for quite a few things to ship as well as things that are being held in place until conditions permit.
As I mentioned above- ROKU CS told me today that all orders shipped on friday (including mine). I like everyone else has not received the shipping notice that they said would go out.. Whether or not he was telling me the truth is another story. He did give me a tracking # but since it's USPS priority I would guess that trying to get any info would be a useless adventure.
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As I mentioned above- ROKU CS told me today that all orders shipped on friday (including mine). I like everyone else has not received the shipping notice that they said would go out.. Whether or not he was telling me the truth is another story. He did give me a tracking # but since it's USPS priority I would guess that trying to get any info would be a useless adventure.
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If they had actually started shipping on Friday I would have received mine on Saturday. I live about 90 miles from their shipping warehouse in Milpitas, CA. No chance today because of the Columbus day holiday. I guess the only consolation is getting the special owner/loyalty price by ordering direct from Roku. Oh well...
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Picked up Roku Ultra today at Best Buy. Never received my shipped email from Roku. Called them to cancel today and they told me Roku had been sent. I will be returning it.

More importantly, my Ultra will not pass 4k HDR to my JVC RS500. I usually send signal from Philips UHD HDR through 3ft Redmere Monoprice cable to Yamaha RX-V679 receiver to monoprice 25' Cabernet cable to JVC without a hiccup. The Roku Ultra will pass 4k without a problem. No HDR. I hope Roku, and possibly JVC, can get this sorted out. If anyone else has a solid HDR signal with their RS500, maybe I should return the device to try a different Ultra.
Your 25' HDMI cable may be the problem. A lot of cables over 15' long are having problems with 18 gb/sec signals

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Picked up ultra today. Hope it is ready for prime time. If not it will go back before I call their non existent bang your head on rock support.
Now if it will just do vudu HDR I would be set. Hope so eventually.
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Setup my Ultra, verified HDR works on Netflix with the Marco Polo series, though the content is limited. No HDR on Amazon just ultra 4K. Bosch season 2 is supposed to be HDR, but not on the Ultra....

Curse of early adopters....
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Setup my Ultra, verified HDR works on Netflix with the Marco Polo series, though the content is limited. No HDR on Amazon just ultra 4K. Bosch season 2 is supposed to be HDR, but not on the Ultra....

Curse of early adopters....
Try playing Tick the Pilot ... that comes up as HDR in Amazon.

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I found HDR on Amazon. Looked pretty good ...
What shows did you find as HDR? All is see are Ultra 4K on Amazon. I do get HDR from Netflix.
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I will not buy any streaming device, until it can output 24fps. With the JVC RS600(I am sure 400/500 also). You can not use a anamorphic lens with a 60fps output. I know I am probably a minority with using a lens, but
From my Epson 5040ub. Roku Premiere on the Smithsonian Earth Channel running at 24hz.


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You get 24hz on Netflix and Amazon? That sure would be great.
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Try playing Tick the Pilot ... that comes up as HDR in Amazon.
Thanks, but I'm still seeing 4K with Tick on my Ultra, no HDR. Netflix no problem.
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Thanks, but I'm still seeing 4K with Tick on my Ultra, no HDR. Netflix no problem.

Damn. I know I get the HDR with my Samsung UHD player.


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You get 24hz on Netflix and Amazon? That sure would be great.
Haven't tried yet. Which content on Netflix runs at 24hz?

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Haven't tried yet. Which content on Netflix runs at 24hz?

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I will not buy any streaming device, until it can output 24fps. With the JVC RS600(I am sure 400/500 also). You can not use a anamorphic lens with a 60fps output. I know I am probably a minority with using a lens, but
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I wonder if the Roku Ultra will have the option to disable HDR so you only get UHD on streaming services.
It does. When it detects the TV you have the option to select 4k without HDR if it detects HDR.
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What shows did you find as HDR? All is see are Ultra 4K on Amazon. I do get HDR from Netflix.
I got a prompt to do a software update. Did you also update software? Wondering if that's it?

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It does. When it detects the TV you have the option to select 4k without HDR if it detects HDR.
Thats awesome. My display is calibrated and you can't really cal HDR mode, so I like using 4K with no HDR.

I have been using the HDfury with the Panny 900 to get 4k/WCG with no HDR from UHD discs and it works well too.

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I was able to do Bosch, Man In High Castle in HDR. Looked significantly better than the Amazon HDR on my LG set!

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Has anyone been able to determine whether it'll do Netflix at 4K/HDR @ 24hz?
It's 4k/60 So your TV has to do a proper 3:2 pull down to avoid judder.


For anyone not able to get Amazon to show HDR, you have to look specifically in the UltraHD section of the app. The Master list of HDR content on the forum has the info you need to find the HDR content. If you do a search for a show that is in HDR you would get the results for the HD version only. Unlike Netflix Amazon will not show you the UltraHD version even if you have the capabilities. Their interface is pretty bad IMO.

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- One Mississippi (6 episodes0
- Transparent season 3
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- I love Dick (pilot, 1 episode)
- The Tick (pilot, 1 episode)
- The Last Tycoon (pilot, 1 episode)
- The Interestings (pilot, 1 episode)
- Bosch Season 2 (10 episodes)
- Mad Dogs (10 episodes)
- Mozart In The Jungle Season 1 and 2 (10 episodes each season)
- The Man in The High Castle (10 episodes)
- Red Oaks (10 episodes)
- Bosch (10 episodes)
- Mozart in the Jungle (10 episodes)


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- Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
- Hotel Transylvania
- The Walk
- The Night Before
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- Van Gogh: Brush with Genius
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- Elysium
- Fury
- Men in Black 3
- Pineapple Express
- After Earth
- Salt
- The Amazing Spiderman 2
- Smurfs 2

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There is a lot of confusion about how to access HDR content on amazon. Amazon around november 20th revamped their UI and IMO for the worse. It now makes it extremely difficult to find the UHD material, and its even more trickier to find the HDR content.

If you do not go directly to the UHD section, your tv will play the show in only HD/1080P.

to find the HDR tv shows/movies. simply scroll all the way down to the bottom of the categories. There will be a section called "Ultra HD movies" and "Ultra HD TV shows". You MUST go to these specific categories to see any UHD or HDR stuff.

Next, if you want to find the "HDR Badge" to make sure what you are about to watch is indeed HDR, follow these next directions. **you will NOT see any type of HDR badges during playback, it is only in the movie info**


-scroll down to UHD tv section (see picture)
-click on tv show
-instead of clicking "watch now", scroll to the left and click on the episode name, this will send you into expanded info. (highlighted in yellow in picture)
-here, you will see the HDR badge right next to "CC", and "5.1" (see picture)

Unfortunately, this is the only way to know if what you are watching on amazon is in HDR. if you do not have an HDR tv, you will not see an HDR badge. Hopefully amazon in the future will make it easier to find HDR stuff.

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Thats awesome. My display is calibrated and you can't really cal HDR mode, so I like using 4K with no HDR.

I have been using the HDfury with the Panny 900 to get 4k/WCG with no HDR from UHD discs and it works well too.
Personally I think you're totally missing out when you don't use HDR. That's me though.
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Personally I think you're totally missing out when you don't use HDR. That's me though.
Ive weighted the negative PQ effects of HDR, vs the calibrated mode. Cal'd mode wins.

TMNT 2 was the first one I watched in UHD 4k BT2020 with the HDR stripped, and it was gorgeous.

Hopefully calibration controls will get better in the next couple of years.
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Seems like the either the Netflix app may have a few kinks to work out for HDR to work. This what I get for output to the Epson on the following roku display settings selected.

4K UHD TV


4K UHD TV HDR


With HDR selected on the roku Netflix only outputs at 1080p SDR. No HDR setting and you get 2160 SDR. Very strange.

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Thats odd.

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