I don't think Shoman is an expert on this but he'll please correct me if I am wrong.
My initial post that took us down this long and winding road was pointing out that as far as the Chromecast Ultra goes, when connected to a TV that doesn't support Dolby Digital Plus over ARC it will only output Stereo... period
but right from the get go you have taken it upon yourself to interpret our words as if we were "bashing" the Chromecast.
If you are now deferring the topic to
I welcome talking to someone who can look at things from both sides of the equation.
So let me repeat some of the information from the Dolby Digital Plus over ARC
thread and examine these important facts:
Before we talk about "downcode" as you put it, lets read the above again. It says "A lot of TV maker did not prepare for that, and are still downgrading DD+ content to DD before sending it out on ARC
You seem to think it's the device
that does the downcoding.
The above says it's the TV and that has been my experience from day 1 going all the way back to the TV you say you own (Samsung 78") before the SEK-3500 changed things. Prior to the introduction of the SEK Evo Kit, even when the TV received a DD 5.1 signal it did not have the capability to pass it to the AVR as 5.1 so THE TV DOWNGRADED IT TO STEREO before passing the signal to the Receiver.
We were all pleased when the SEK-3500 added the ability to decode DD+ and DD 5.1 and pass it to the Receiver as DD 5.1 instead of Stereo.
This has worked flawlessly for all the devices I have had hooked up directly to the SEK in the past and present including my old Arris STB, a new 4K Arris STB / PVR, my BD-7500 Blu-ray Player, my UBD-K8500 4K Blu-ray Player, and even my cheap old Apple TV.
To add to the above list
pointed out that he had tested his Sony BDP-S390 Blu-ray player which also was able to pass DD+ to his AVR as DD 5.1.
At this point I think you are just arguing for the sake of hearing the sound of the keys click on your keyboard. Here is one of the points you were trying to make with me the other day when you were convinced I was being inaccurate...
tested out a couple of these including the Roku that you have been going on and on about
To add to the list,
tried out the Firestick as well and his results back up what
But you want to ignore the most important point of
's post where you paraphrased
, by saying:
Actually that is not quite right. Here is what
and the rest of us think:
And that is what we have being saying all along!
What is your issue dude? Should all the Samsung TV owners (and those who own TVs that don't support Dolby Digital Plus over ARC) run out and buy the Chromecast Ultra and only get Stereo from content that outputs Dolby Digital Plus such as Netflix? Would you have preferred that we kept quiet on this shortcoming of the Chromecast Ultra?
Two weeks you have argued about this when all I was trying to do in my initial post was offer some help and let all the Samsung owners know that the Chromecast Ultra is an exception to the rule with Netflix DD+ content and only sends Stereo to our TVs.
As a matter of fact I also enlightened a couple of 2016 Vizio P owners including
who was a bit confused about my initial post since he wasn't having issues with DD 5.1 so although he probably didn't want to, he is almost an expert on how the Samsung lineup is able to receive DD+, process it, and output it since the TV has the essential codecs required to do this -- both Dobly Digital Plus AND Dolby Digital.
He can speak for himself but let's defer to
who would probably prefer that you let this go, but as a fellow 2016 Vizio P like yourself, has probably come to the conclusion that it isn't the device that needs to downgrade the DD+ signal -- it's the TV
-- but in the case of the Chromecast Ultra (and maybe even some other devices) it's just not getting the DD+ signal like it is from all those other devices we have mentioned on this thread. Some of those devices are very old such as my Apple TV that surely didn't get some sort of overhaul hardware upgrade when Netflix decided to send DD+ instead of DD.
Just before posting this I see
has added some irrefutable video proof and also caught on that you seem to respond only to parts of peoples posts while ignoring more germane parts... or even ignore entire posts like the one that
Liked last night where I was trying to diplomatically lay out how others in the A/V community understand the pass-through of audio signals while trying to avoid a pissing match.
Maybe an apology is in order to the guys who have been reading this thread like
as well as others who have been following it like
not to mention the guys on the SEK-3500 thread who have thanked me for making them aware of this.
We have just tried to be helpful and I am sorry that
had to get caught up in the middle of your inaccurate assessment of how pass-through works. Your posts have done nothing more than confuse people or make them waste their time wading through this thread responding to your claims that in some cases are WAY off the mark even going so far as saying the Roku works the same as the Chromecast which we now know isn't true either thanks to
I write one post letting guys know that the Chromecast will only output Stereo from DD+ content on most TV makes and model that has spawned off 34 posts.