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post #181 of 200 Old 10-11-2019, 06:46 AM
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I am going to make a list here of 3D movies that don’t have atmos but come with a 2D blu-ray that does for anyone else that may want it.

I am slowly going though and remuxing my collection and will add more as I get to them. Feel free to suggest others to add to the list.

Fantastic Beasts and Where to find Them
Fantastic Beasts the crimes of Grindlewald
Godzilla King of Monsters
Gravity
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Has anyone been able to successfully make a 3D file that contains Gravity's 3D video and Atmos audio, AND play it on an Oppo 103 or 203?

I've tried making an ISO and a M2TS file. The resultant file is about double the size of the original video track (25GB doubles to about a 50GB ISO)...is this normal?

The resultant file plays, my Sony turns into 3D mode, but the video is all choppy, it hangs, and crashes the Oppo.

What am I doing wrong?

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I have Gravity working for hard drive playback on my Zidoo X9S in 3D with Atmos. I've never attempted to make a BD disc and only had the demo software to try it briefly before. I find it easier and better to play back 3D movies on a Zidoo from a hard drive. I don't have to hunt for the disc and I can even include multiple soundtracks (e.g. some have Auro-3D and Atmos mixes in the same file which would never fit on a BD disc).

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I have Gravity working for hard drive playback on my Zidoo X9S in 3D with Atmos. I've never attempted to make a BD disc and only had the demo software to try it briefly before. I find it easier and better to play back 3D movies on a Zidoo from a hard drive. I don't have to hunt for the disc and I can even include multiple soundtracks (e.g. some have Auro-3D and Atmos mixes in the same file which would never fit on a BD disc).

I'm not trying to make a BD disc.


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OK, I saw Oppo and wrongly assumed disc playback. I know nothing about OPPO file playback. I make MKV files for the X9S using MKVToolNix and gravity worked fine here. I don't know what the Oppo can use.

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could some one link me to post about forced subs and mede8ter first attemt at mkv. or possibly a player that works better for this and playes 3d
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could some one link me to post about forced subs and mede8ter first attemt at mkv. or possibly a player that works better for this and playes 3d
Have you tried searching the Mede8er forum?

http://www.mede8erforum.com/index.php
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Just want to say thanks to everyone that gave info on this thread. I just got my first 3D+Atmos working with Avengers Endgame via MKV on an Oppo. This is awesome, although this will lead to more double dipping on the discs!

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just wondering how everyone fixed movies like. underworld bloodwars. in getting a drift in audio looks like close to 3 seconds by end of movie


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just wondering how everyone fixed movies like. underworld bloodwars. in getting a drift in audio looks like close to 3 seconds by end of movie


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IME, either the AV syncs up all the way through on remuxes, or it is off by a set amount of time all the way through....which can easily be fixed with MKVtoolnix... I do have this title remuxed with the Atmos audio on the blu ray...but haven't yet watched it all the way through...but didn't notice anything with the sound being out of sync on the parts I did watch. I will have to check it out fully...I wonder if something happened during one of your rips? What is your playback device? And are you playing back via network NAS or attached HDD... etc..?
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IME, either the AV syncs up all the way through on remuxes, or it is off by a set amount of time all the way through....which can easily be fixed with MKVtoolnix... I do have this title remuxed with the Atmos audio on the blu ray...but haven't yet watched it all the way through...but didn't notice anything with the sound being out of sync on the parts I did watch. I will have to check it out fully...I wonder if something happened during one of your rips? What is your playback device? And are you playing back via network NAS or attached HDD... etc..?

hdd. used vlc dsplayer. going to try on mede8er if still the same will rerip both disks.


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hdd. used vlc dsplayer. going to try on mede8er if still the same will rerip both disks.


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just riped both 3d. and atmos track remuxed both same problem this would be 3rd one i did other 2 are fine


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OK, I see now... my fault, I should have realized that you were probably referring to muxing a 3D title with the Atmos audio...I only remuxed the Atmos audio from the 4K to the video of the standard bluray of Underworld Blood Wars. I assume playing on the Mede8er did the same thing?

My guess is that I bet the audio jumps out of sync after a specific chapter. I do recall now that I had this exact same problem when trying to mux the Atmos audio from 4K version of Crank with the 1080p blu ray video. Everything was good up until about a little over 1/2 way into the movie, then the audio just jumped out of sync badly right after a chapter change.... No matter what I tried with ripping, I couldn't get it to work. But, with it not being a 3D title, I was fine with just playing the 4K rip even though I only have a 1080p projector.

I guess it is hard to say what source could be at fault... the foreign 3D disc or the 4K disc?
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OK, I see now... my fault, I should have realized that you were probably referring to muxing a 3D title with the Atmos audio...I only remuxed the Atmos audio from the 4K to the video of the standard bluray of Underworld Blood Wars. I assume playing on the Mede8er did the same thing?

My guess is that I bet the audio jumps out of sync after a specific chapter. I do recall now that I had this exact same problem when trying to mux the Atmos audio from 4K version of Crank with the 1080p blu ray video. Everything was good up until about a little over 1/2 way into the movie, then the audio just jumped out of sync badly right after a chapter change.... No matter what I tried with ripping, I couldn't get it to work. But, with it not being a 3D title, I was fine with just playing the 4K rip even though I only have a 1080p projector.

I guess it is hard to say what source could be at fault... the foreign 3D disc or the 4K disc?

ya mede8er did same it seems to be out of sync at start and just gets worse


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ya mede8er did same it seems to be out of sync at start and just gets worse
Well, if it is "out of sync" right from the start, then that can be due to the different versions of titles being mastered and manufactured. You can input an "X" millisecond delay to the audio or video in Toolnix and get it back in sync... But, I don't recall having had one that "got worse" as it played. Are your sources actual discs or torrents?
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Well, if it is "out of sync" right from the start, then that can be due to the different versions of titles being mastered and manufactured. You can input an "X" millisecond delay to the audio or video in Toolnix and get it back in sync... But, I don't recall having had one that "got worse" as it played. Are your sources actual discs or torrents?

ya i was trying to get it in sync with vlc went forward with video and got way worse. disc’s


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Hi, here is the info below:


The process to get a 3D M2TS file that is compatible with the Oppo 203/205 adds several extra layers to the process since it cannot play a 3D MKV file.

some important notes:

* TSMuxer is required for this process. It cannot recognize a TrueHD track that is already muxed into an MKV without first extracting the THD+AC3 as a separate file.

* Eacto is required to first extract the file that will later be merged with the video source in TSMuxer.


First load the MKV file that has the ATMOS track. This could be either the UHD source or perhaps a 2D BD if lucky enough to contain the ATMOS track as well.

Select 'TRUE' + THD+AC3 and click on 'Add', then RUNCL which will process the file. In this example it will look like this:

Aquaman.2018.UHD+ATMOS.thd+ac3




in TSMUXER - add the 3D MKV file (if it was already muxed with ATMOS track, it will state an error that audio track cannot be loaded) - OK the error, we can still keep going no problem.

add the THD+AC3 track to the input area

**IMPORTANT** - for the Oppo 203 3D playback, the H.264 track must be the first entry... use the UP/DOWN option to move it.

In some cases like Aquaman, the UHD audio is 1 second off from the 3D video. It was easy to see when first muxing it. I added 1000MS to the general track options and it's now perfectly synced. This is pretty rare, it's usually 1:1 with no sync changes needed.





Click on 'Start Muxing' to create the 3D+ATMOS M2TS file.

This is also a perfect method to use to created 3D BD ISO, just pick Blu-ray ISO instead of M2TS. Using IMGBURN I just burned backups of Aquaman and Spiderverse to 50GB Verbatim disks and they play perfect in the Oppo 203 and my Panasonic UB820.
Hey Zombie10k Thanks for these detailed steps. My personal experience with this method is occasionally the end results from the tsmuxer is full of cross-talk and is unwatchable.
It doesn't happen for all titles but only for some. Have you seen it?
For example, today I tried "Kong: Skull Island" 3D to mux with 2D Atmos track from the 2D blu-ray and output ISO from tsmuxer was showing serious cross-talk when played on OPPO-203 and also on Dune 4K Solo player. Have you or anyone else tried this title?

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Hey Zombie10k Thanks for these detailed steps. My personal experience with this method is occasionally the end results from the tsmuxer is full of cross-talk and is unwatchable.
It doesn't happen for all titles but only for some. Have you seen it?
For example, today I tried "Kong: Skull Island" 3D to mux with 2D Atmos track from the 2D blu-ray and output ISO from tsmuxer was showing serious cross-talk when played on OPPO-203 and also on Dune 4K Solo player. Have you or anyone else tried this title?
Kong Skull Island is one of those rare Right Eye First mastered 3D titles... instead of the much more common Left Eye first....are you sure that you just don't need to switch your 3D eyeview in your player menu settings for that title?
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Kong Skull Island is one of those rare Right Eye First mastered 3D titles... instead of the much more common Left Eye first....are you sure that you just don't need to switch your 3D eyeview in your player menu settings for that title?
You are right. I just saw this issue already discussed in around post #106 of this thread. I was able to re-generate the remuxed atmos .iso by making tsmuxer switch the eyes so no need to fiddle around with player or display menu. The new remux works perfectly on my OPPO now..

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