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Really, I wanted to thank you for compiling that list. I found your post on SD, which prompted me to look here. I am about to test with a redemption code for District 9.

EDIT: just redeemed Elysium and District 9 on Sony's site. Waiting patiently for them to show up in iTunes. Hopefully they come over as 4K. It didn't happen with "The Nice Guys", which I made the mistake of redeeming on Movies Anywhere (before reading this thread). iTunes has the 4K version, but it came over to iTunes in HD.
Did you get that 3 BD set for Elysium/D9/Chappie?
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Correct. But at least you're guaranteed those rights via Sony, any maybe down the road iTunes (and others?) can pull entitlements directly from Sony?

Don’t bank on Sony “down the road”. Of the 44 Sony titles I have on Vudu, 10 have UHD disks available, but only 1 is in UHD on Vudu.


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Don’t bank on Sony “down the road”. Of the 44 Sony titles I have on Vudu, 10 have UHD disks available, but only 1 is in UHD on Vudu.


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So is there really no way to redeem Sony UHD codes for 4K playback on AppleTV? What is the 1 UHD title on VUDU?

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Actually District 9 is available in 4K, and it just showed up in my list. Elysium on the other hand, you're right isn't in 4K (yet).
Actually, I just realized that none of those titles are UHD via VUDU, so there is no chance they'll show up as 4K for Apple TV 4K. They might say 4K on the overview screen, but if you start playing them and use the 'swipe down on remote' method, you'll see they're only HD.
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Did you get that 3 BD set for Elysium/D9/Chappie?
Yeah this was for the Elysium/District 9 BD set.

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So is there really no way to redeem Sony UHD codes for 4K playback on AppleTV? What is the 1 UHD title on VUDU?



Actually, I just realized that none of those titles are UHD via VUDU, so there is no chance they'll show up as 4K for Apple TV 4K. They might say 4K on the overview screen, but if you start playing them and use the 'swipe down on remote' method, you'll see they're only HD.
Aw shucks. Just so many exceptions to the rule. :/ back to the drawing board.
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Aw shucks. Just so many exceptions to the rule. :/ back to the drawing board.

Might want to bookmark my post, as even I have to remind myself what I confirmed works, and where.
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Redeemed code for Apollo 13 through iTunes, should be getting UHD, HD & SD from Universal - only getting HD on ATV4K.
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Can you redeem Sony codes directly on MA now? WIll that give UHD rights in iTunes when it ports in?

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Redeemed code for Apollo 13 through iTunes, should be getting UHD, HD & SD from Universal - only getting HD on ATV4K.

There is no UHD/4K version of Apollo 13 available on any service right now.
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There is no UHD/4K version of Apollo 13 available on any service right now.
FandangoNow has UHD for Apollo 13. Redeems on FandangoNow should give you UHD in UV locker.

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There is no UHD/4K version of Apollo 13 available on any service right now.
The Universal site shows UHD, HD and SD versions for Apollo 13.
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Can you redeem Sony codes directly on MA now? WIll that give UHD rights in iTunes when it ports in?
I don't recommend redeeming Sony codes via MA. My Underworld UHD code came in as SD
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FandangoNow has UHD for Apollo 13.
Thanks when I redeemed the code I had two options - Fandango or iTunes (chose iTunes).
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FandangoNow has UHD for Apollo 13. Redeems on FandangoNow should give you UHD in UV locker.
Yep, but it’s not UHD yet on any Movies Anywhere service (iTunes, vudu, etc.)
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Thanks when I redeemed the code I had two options - Fandango or iTunes (chose iTunes).
What a pain this all is. FandangoNow has been adding quite a few UHD titles that Vudu doesn't have yet (guessing mainly because they don't do HDR10 yet). So far FN redeems will send UHD rights to UV locker (I redeemed Serenity 4K on FN this morning for UHD in UV locker (only HDX on Vudu).
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Thanks when I redeemed the code I had two options - Fandango or iTunes (chose iTunes).
What does your iTunes purchase history show? I'm guessing only HD since iTunes doesn't have it in 4K.


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Yep, but it’s not UHD yet on any Movies Anywhere service (iTunes, vudu, etc.)
Correct. But FN is the only way to get "something" to show UHD rights. Movies Anywhere itself really needed to be setup to accept all codes AND show the quality - so you could have a record of what you own.
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I just redeemed the code and it was accepted via Fandango Now (I hadn't joined till today). It will hopefully migrate.
Duh.....should have remember it's a dual redeem! Nice! Congrats!
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What a pain this all is. FandangoNow has been adding quite a few UHD titles that Vudu doesn't have yet (guessing mainly because they don't do HDR10 yet). So far FN redeems will send UHD rights to UV locker (I redeemed Serenity 4K on FN this morning for UHD in UV locker (only HDX on Vudu).
So FandangoNow might be a bust, too. Regardless if it transfers 4K rights to UV (which is the same behavior as redeeming via Sony 4K codes via SonyPicturesStore.com), the 4K entitlement won't show up for iTunes unless it makes it's way to VUDU in UHD.
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So Fandango now might be a bust, too. Regardless if it transfers 4K rights to UV, the 4K entitlement won't show up for iTunes unless it makes it's way to VUDU in UHD.
Correct, since MA only talks to Vudu. It's the same as redeeming on Sony if Vudu doesn't have the UHD yet. You are basically waiting for Vudu to get UHD in hopes that it transfers in the future based on the UV record.

In this case though, because he redeemed directly on iTunes as well, if iTunes adds the 4K, he'll be able to view it because it's not a "second session".
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Correct, since MA only talks to Vudu. It's the same as redeeming on Sony if Vudu doesn't have the UHD yet. You are basically waiting for Vudu to get UHD in hopes that it transfers in the future based on the UV record.

In this case though, because he redeemed directly on iTunes as well, if iTunes adds the 4K, he'll be able to view it because it's not a "second session".
Yup, which is why my plan is to redeem directly in iTunes everything I possibly can: Warner Bros, Fox, Universal.
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I don't recommend redeeming Sony codes via MA. My Underworld UHD code came in as SD
On VUDU, if so that’s a known and acknowledged issue.

I want to know if a UHD code on MA comes into iTunes with UHD rights? Maybe I’ll buy one and try it myself.

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What does your iTunes purchase history show? I'm guessing only HD since iTunes doesn't have it in 4K.

Correct. But FN is the only way to get "something" to show UHD rights. Movies Anywhere itself really needed to be setup to accept all codes AND show the quality - so you could have a record of what you own.
It shows HD only. I contacted Apple via chat and got this response from them: "I spoke with a Senior Advisor about this and it looks like the HD 4K version is not in the iTunes Store which is why it didn’t download".
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It shows HD only. I contacted Apple via chat and got this response from them: "I spoke with a Senior Advisor about this and it looks like the HD 4K version is not in the iTunes Store which is why it didn’t download".
Correct that it's currently only HD. What I was saying before was that IF it goes 4K in iTunes, you'll get the free "upgrade" based on the code was redeemed directly on iTunes.
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Correct that it's currently only HD. What I was saying before was that IF it goes 4K in iTunes, you'll get the free "upgrade" based on the code was redeemed directly on iTunes.
I hope so, it is one of my favorite all time movies. The launch scene where the astronaut says there is going to be a little jolt is classic (Helmets jerk down, then violently up). I own the original DVD but want the upgrade to higher definition.
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On VUDU, if so that’s a known and acknowledged issue.

I want to know if a UHD code on MA comes into iTunes with UHD rights? Maybe I’ll buy one and try it myself.
If iTunes currently has them in 4K, I understand you can redeem via MA, and retain your 4K entitlement. It would be great if someone could check with 1984 Ghostbusters UHD, redeemed via MA. Because redeeming through Sony only gets it as far as VUDU, which has no 4K version, as such is just HD on iTunes.
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Duh.....should have remember it's a dual redeem! Nice! Congrats!

Can you explain how dual redeem works, and which platforms/studios it applies to?
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So is there really no way to redeem Sony UHD codes for 4K playback on AppleTV? What is the 1 UHD title on VUDU?
Correction- Spiderman Homecoming is the only UHD labeled and owned title I have in my Vudu Library when I sort by studio and choose Sony Pictures. When you look at the details for Spiderman, it shows the studio as Marvel, so I'm not sure if that's a Vudu error. When I go to my library on Sony Pictures Store and myuv.com, the only Sony movies I have that show Ultraviolet UHD rights are: Angry Birds, The Shallows, Life, Ghostbusters (2016) and The Magnificent Seven. Spiderman I redeemed via Google Play Store (MA), so it only shows as HD in the Sony Pictures Store. The Magnificent Seven is also labeled UHD and owned in my Vudu library, but the details page shows that studio as MGM (which means it's not MA and not in my iTunes Library). So zero Sony Pictures Store UHD movies in Vudu have UHD labels or rights when sorted by Sony Pictures studio. Confused yet?
Now to bring that back around to MA, here are the labels I see in iTunes today for the movies I have UHD rights for in the Sony Pictures Store-

Angry Birds (4K Dolbyvision)
The Shallows (HD)
Life (HD)
Ghostbusters 2016-Extended Edition (HD)

Geez, this is a mess. And you wonder why none of this is working the way we expect across all of these services.

In Conclusion- Spiderman: Homecoming (4K Dolbyvision) in iTunes, UHD in Vudu, HD in the Sony Pictures Store library.
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Can you explain how dual redeem works, and which platforms/studios it applies to?
This was/is how it works when you don't factor in Movies Anywhere. I'm still not 100% sure how MA changes this, although I have heard that MA will burn the UV side.

Warner and Sony are UV only
Fox is UV -or- iTunes
Universal is UV -and- iTunes
Paramount is UV -and- iTunes
Lionsgate is sometimes UV -and- iTunes and other times not.

Usually you want to redeem the UV side first and then iTunes just to be safe. This is why on the groups/boards you will see people sell split codes.

When talking about the redeems above, it's generally where you redeem directly on Vudu and iTunes, not using something like MYUV or studio sites.

This can all change at anytime now that we have MA - but so far current codes still act this way.
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Correction- Spiderman Homecoming is the only UHD labeled and owned title I have in my Vudu Library when I sort by studio and choose Sony Pictures. When you look at the details for Spiderman, it shows the studio as Marvel, so I'm not sure if that's a Vudu error. When I go to my library on Sony Pictures Store and myuv.com, the only Sony movies I have that show Ultraviolet UHD rights are: Angry Birds, The Shallows, Life, Ghostbusters (2016) and The Magnificent Seven. Spiderman I redeemed via Google Play Store (MA), so it only shows as HD in the Sony Pictures Store. The Magnificent Seven is also labeled UHD and owned in my Vudu library, but the details page shows that studio as MGM (which means it's not MA and not in my iTunes Library). So zero Sony Pictures Store UHD movies in Vudu have UHD labels or rights when sorted by Sony Pictures studio. Confused yet?
Now to bring that back around to MA, here are the labels I see in iTunes today for the movies I have UHD rights for in the Sony Pictures Store-

Angry Birds (4K Dolbyvision)
The Shallows (HD)
Life (HD)
Ghostbusters 2016-Extended Edition (HD)

Geez, this is a mess. And you wonder why none of this is working the way we expect across all of these services.

In Conclusion- Spiderman: Homecoming (4K Dolbyvision) in iTunes, UHD in Vudu, HD in the Sony Pictures Store library.
I could not agree more with you about Geez, this is a mess! How much more confusing can they make it at this point? I'm linking the Federal Reserve to all my streaming accounts, lol
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Correction- Spiderman Homecoming is the only UHD labeled and owned title I have in my Vudu Library when I sort by studio and choose Sony Pictures. When you look at the details for Spiderman, it shows the studio as Marvel, so I'm not sure if that's a Vudu error. When I go to my library on Sony Pictures Store and myuv.com, the only Sony movies I have that show Ultraviolet UHD rights are: Angry Birds, The Shallows, Life, Ghostbusters (2016) and The Magnificent Seven. Spiderman I redeemed via Google Play Store (MA), so it only shows as HD in the Sony Pictures Store. The Magnificent Seven is also labeled UHD and owned in my Vudu library, but the details page shows that studio as MGM (which means it's not MA and not in my iTunes Library). So zero Sony Pictures Store UHD movies in Vudu have UHD labels or rights when sorted by Sony Pictures studio. Confused yet?
Now to bring that back around to MA, here are the labels I see in iTunes today for the movies I have UHD rights for in the Sony Pictures Store-

Angry Birds (4K Dolbyvision)
The Shallows (HD)
Life (HD)
Ghostbusters 2016-Extended Edition (HD)

Geez, this is a mess. And you wonder why none of this is working the way we expect across all of these services.

In Conclusion- Spiderman: Homecoming (4K Dolbyvision) in iTunes, UHD in Vudu, HD in the Sony Pictures Store library.
Other than Spiderman Homecoming, and Magnificent Seven (which is technically MGM but kinda Sony), the only other UHD title Vudu has is Baby Driver.

And yes....it's an awful mess that MA should have solved by being the GO-TO place to redeem and manage movies. Instead it continues to be a glorified connection between retailers.
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Correction- Spiderman Homecoming is the only UHD labeled and owned title I have in my Vudu Library when I sort by studio and choose Sony Pictures. When you look at the details for Spiderman, it shows the studio as Marvel, so I'm not sure if that's a Vudu error. When I go to my library on Sony Pictures Store and myuv.com, the only Sony movies I have that show Ultraviolet UHD rights are: Angry Birds, The Shallows, Life, Ghostbusters (2016) and The Magnificent Seven. Spiderman I redeemed via Google Play Store (MA), so it only shows as HD in the Sony Pictures Store. The Magnificent Seven is also labeled UHD and owned in my Vudu library, but the details page shows that studio as MGM (which means it's not MA and not in my iTunes Library). So zero Sony Pictures Store UHD movies in Vudu have UHD labels or rights when sorted by Sony Pictures studio. Confused yet?
Now to bring that back around to MA, here are the labels I see in iTunes today for the movies I have UHD rights for in the Sony Pictures Store-

Angry Birds (4K Dolbyvision)
The Shallows (HD)
Life (HD)
Ghostbusters 2016-Extended Edition (HD)

Geez, this is a mess. And you wonder why none of this is working the way we expect across all of these services.

In Conclusion- Spiderman: Homecoming (4K Dolbyvision) in iTunes, UHD in Vudu, HD in the Sony Pictures Store library.

How did you redeem Spiderman: HC?

Does Angry Birds actually playback in 4K, even though it is labeled as such?
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