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Thanks SuperFist. Maybe the one I found the file for had playlist obfuscation and that's why it was there, I'll have to look at that. I hadn't found a disc.inf file on any of the other DV discs.


I’ve yet to find a UHD disc with obfuscation but I don’t own every disc out there so maybe that’s a possibility.

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If you select the TruHD track in MakeMKV and look in the info box to the right, you'll see the TruHD Atmos listed.

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Yep I see it now... and I think I figured it out... I did not have Atmos properly configured on my AVR. Which is still confusing to me because I have seen "Atmos" appear on my AVRs screen playing a test file though my HTPC.
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Has anybody used the DeUHD software to rip the Fury 4k or Patriot 4k blu-rays?

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I was about to order the ASUS BW-16D1X-U but after finding this post I might scratch that.

It seem a more future proof option would be the Vantec NST-536S3-BK External Enclosure with a internal drive.
From the list on 1st page is one much preferred than another, or would they all be about the same.

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I was about to order the ASUS BW-16D1X-U but after finding this post I might scratch that.

It seem a more future proof option would be the Vantec NST-536S3-BK External Enclosure with a internal drive.
From the list on 1st page is one much preferred than another, or would they all be about the same.

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I'm using three of those Vantec enclosures with my three Asus BW-16D1HT drives. The Vantec enclosures have been working very well. I get the same speeds as when the drives are attached to a SATA port.
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I was about to order the ASUS BW-16D1X-U but after finding this post I might scratch that.
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I'm using three of those Vantec enclosures with my three Asus BW-16D1HT drives. The Vantec enclosures have been working very well. I get the same speeds as when the drives are attached to a SATA port.
That sound great I would order one Vantec today.
I was going to ask you if you would recommend the Asus BW-16D1HT but now I re-read and you have 3 so I already know the answers :-)

How easy would it be to change the FW on the Asus if it comes with a non 4k friendly firmware.


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Which post are you referring to?
I mean this thread as there no mention of it on the list on 1st page.
No specific reply in this thread.

So it seem that the Vantec with a Internal drive would be much better than that external ASUS.

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For anyone who's interested... The enclosure I'm using with my ASUS drive unit is an old NewLink caddie I purchased in May 2009

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So is Infuse the way to go for streaming 4K MKVs? It is 15 bucks and was looking for a cheaper alternative. PLEX sees the 4K but never actually plays the file.

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So is Infuse the way to go for streaming 4K MKVs? It is 15 bucks and was looking for a cheaper alternative. PLEX sees the 4K but never actually plays the file.
On the ATV 4K yes. MrMC has similar functionality just not nearly as nice an interface. However the limitation on the ATV is no Atmos or DTS:X. You still get lossless audio just as PCM instead of bitstream. Also only the Oppo 203/205 can play back DV and that’s only with a whole disc backup in BDMV format. No perfect device. I use a mix of atv, Shield, oppo to do everything I want.

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On the ATV 4K yes. MrMC has similar functionality just not nearly as nice an interface. However the limitation on the ATV is no Atmos or DTS:X. You still get lossless audio just as PCM instead of bitstream. Also only the Oppo 203/205 can play back DV and that’s only with a whole disc backup in BDMV format. No perfect device. I use a mix of atv, Shield, oppo to do everything I want.
OK thanks. I guess it's cheaper than buying a shield or oppo 203!

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However the limitation on the ATV is no Atmos or DTS:X.
True of DTS but not Atmos (at least for the Atmos titles in the Apple Library!!). It can not, as of today, stream ripped Atmos files from a NAS.
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True of DTS but not Atmos (at least for the Atmos titles in the Apple Library!!). It can not, as of today, stream ripped Atmos files from a NAS.
Right. The question was regarding playback of local 4K MKVs.
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I installed ASUS' firmware updater and it did... nothing.

https://www.asus.com/us/Optical-Driv...Desk_Download/

absolutely useless.

Back to the Word doc...sigh...
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There are basically two external enclosures most folks use in the United States. Europe has "Icy Box" of which I know little about, other than I'm sure it conforms to their AC power requirements.



1. Vantec NexStar DX (NST-536S3-BK)
https://www.frys.com/product/9098767...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG


2. OWC Mercury Pro
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds




The Vantec is black, one side is curved, meant to be used vertically, I guess, looking at the picture. These are lower quality than the OWC in my opinion and from experience with dozens of them. The circuit board has been DOA on several that we narrowed down to a bad batch. there's nothing to that circuit board to have something that simple go bad, or be missed in QA, that's a problem in my book.


Fry's took it off the shelf and made it a custom order item. I said WTF and last night was delighted to find 5 on the shelf which all came home with me. I believe the circuit board issue is fixed and should no longer be an issue. The overall quality issue of things not lining up perfectly and uneven gaps on either side of the drive once installed, those remain, and can be tweaked. If black is your color then this unit is for you.




OWC is white or beige I suppose. I feel it's higher quality than the Vantec, it goes together easier, spacing looks good after final assembly. Meant to lay flat, it looks like something Apple would sell and is usually the choice of Mac users. If white is your color, or you'd prefer to run your drive horizontal, this is your unit.


Price difference between the two is negligible, below ten dollars, who cares. If Fry's had these on the shelf I'd buy them all every time they restocked. They don't. I use Mac Sales or Amazon if it's super time critical but I'm going to stop with that Amazon. Too many brick and mortar places are going under because of them. (Keep in mine this is all MY OPINION and not meant to start a debate).



I don't remember off the top of my head if the speed of using the drive in an external enclosure over USB 3.0 matches the speed of a direct SATA port connection. I believe direct SATA will be faster but not sure of how much. I can test this a little later.



Anyways, that's my take on the external enclosure discussion.
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I installed ASUS' firmware updater and it did... nothing.

https://www.asus.com/us/Optical-Driv...Desk_Download/

absolutely useless.

Back to the Word doc...sigh...

I PM'd you.
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QUICK UPDATE:


you guys, and gals, I know that several, possibly many of you are waiting on replies from me. I apologize for any and all delays. I'm having a very hard time balancing this new job with family stuff, a wife who hates this hobby because it takes up so much of my time, as if she'd hate me any less if I gave this up, lol. A kid who hates this hobby because he sees mommy hate this hobby and because mommy cannot follow our therapist's simple suggestion/command to NOT HAVING ADULT DISCUSSIONS IN FRONT OF THE KID.


It's ridiculous, and I know this is not the marriage counseling forum so I apologize for the off topic content.



Bottom Line, if you're waiting on a reply from me please hit me again and put in the subject line your name and what we were "discussing". Do that and what the heck, blow up my phone 650-720-1869 call, text, whatever.


I am very bummed out I've gotten so behind and want to do whatever it takes to get caught up, so please bear with me, but do reach out and ping me so I can actually write stuff down on a brand new white board i'm putting up.


Thank you,


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you guys, and gals, I know that several, possibly many of you are waiting on replies from me. I apologize for any and all delays. I'm having a very hard time balancing this new job with family stuff, a wife who hates this hobby because it takes up so much of my time, as if she'd hate me any less if I gave this up, lol. A kid who hates this hobby because he sees mommy hate this hobby and because mommy cannot follow our therapist's simple suggestion/command to NOT HAVING ADULT DISCUSSIONS IN FRONT OF THE KID.


It's ridiculous, and I know this is not the marriage counseling forum so I apologize for the off topic content.



Bottom Line, if you're waiting on a reply from me please hit me again and put in the subject line your name and what we were "discussing". Do that and what the heck, blow up my phone 650-720-1869 call, text, whatever.


I am very bummed out I've gotten so behind and want to do whatever it takes to get caught up, so please bear with me, but do reach out and ping me so I can actually write stuff down on a brand new white board i'm putting up.


Thank you,


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Alex, Maybe she just doesn’t want to admit she’s lost and can’t find her way back to the kitchen. Point the way for her! That’ll fix everything LOL.



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don't do that...

Alex, I'm a big believer that family comes first man. Sometimes really small gestures can make a really big difference. My wife broke down in tears some years ago because I wouldn't spend $5 on flowers from the grocery store. Fast forward to now and that $5 a week is pretty much all I need to do to make her happy.

Sorry we're off topic but I don't believe this hobby is worth broken relationships.
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There are basically two external enclosures most folks use in the United States. Europe has "Icy Box" of which I know little about, other than I'm sure it conforms to their AC power requirements.



1. Vantec NexStar DX (NST-536S3-BK)
https://www.frys.com/product/9098767...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG


2. OWC Mercury Pro
https://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/...E&gclsrc=aw.ds




The Vantec is black, one side is curved, meant to be used vertically, I guess, looking at the picture. These are lower quality than the OWC in my opinion and from experience with dozens of them. The circuit board has been DOA on several that we narrowed down to a bad batch. there's nothing to that circuit board to have something that simple go bad, or be missed in QA, that's a problem in my book.


Fry's took it off the shelf and made it a custom order item. I said WTF and last night was delighted to find 5 on the shelf which all came home with me. I believe the circuit board issue is fixed and should no longer be an issue. The overall quality issue of things not lining up perfectly and uneven gaps on either side of the drive once installed, those remain, and can be tweaked. If black is your color then this unit is for you.




OWC is white or beige I suppose. I feel it's higher quality than the Vantec, it goes together easier, spacing looks good after final assembly. Meant to lay flat, it looks like something Apple would sell and is usually the choice of Mac users. If white is your color, or you'd prefer to run your drive horizontal, this is your unit.


Price difference between the two is negligible, below ten dollars, who cares. If Fry's had these on the shelf I'd buy them all every time they restocked. They don't. I use Mac Sales or Amazon if it's super time critical but I'm going to stop with that Amazon. Too many brick and mortar places are going under because of them. (Keep in mine this is all MY OPINION and not meant to start a debate).



I don't remember off the top of my head if the speed of using the drive in an external enclosure over USB 3.0 matches the speed of a direct SATA port connection. I believe direct SATA will be faster but not sure of how much. I can test this a little later.



Anyways, that's my take on the external enclosure discussion.
The Vantec is designed to lay flat or on its side. Personally I use all of mine flat. But if I needed to save space, I would use it on its side. But it works perfectly fine whether flat or on its side.

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I have encouragement on my drive from reddit : someone read this thread and it worked for them - now I just have to figure out what they did.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hometheater..._dont/dz02nfl/

edit : damnit - his just worked...no flashing - trying to figure out what FW his came with.

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So is Infuse the way to go for streaming 4K MKVs? It is 15 bucks and was looking for a cheaper alternative. PLEX sees the 4K but never actually plays the file.
Emby is the way to go!

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On the Apple TV Infuse is the best media player available.

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NOT HAVING ADULT DISCUSSIONS IN FRONT OF THE KID.
That's too funny! I'm getting the look right now!

On a serious note... have the kids learn how to flash firmware and then you'll get caught up!
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Can someone point me to the post where we have a guide for flashing firmware?
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On the Apple TV Infuse is the best media player available.
I didn't realize I had the non-pro of Infuse installed. I even created an account!

So when I went to upgrade, it was subscription based. But there's a standalone app in the App Store for $15.

What gives? Is the $15 app the same as the subscription version? Very confusing.

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There are basically two external enclosures most folks use in the United States. Europe has "Icy Box" of which I know little about, other than I'm sure it conforms to their AC power requirements.

1. Vantec NexStar DX (NST-536S3-BK)
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2. OWC Mercury Pro
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good thing I haven't ordered yet as I am still searching what drive to buy.


the OWC Mercury Pro look nice but it seem that it would only take 7'' drives limiting the choices of drives.


The Vantec review mention is super big, and some a max speed of 480 maybe a bad board or person used wrong USB.


Haven't looked at all the friendly drives yet but so far the two I saw are over 7''.
So I wonder if it would still be better to get the Vantec just for that reason if it transfer speed is slow return for a replacement.
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I didn't realize I had the non-pro of Infuse installed. I even created an account!

So when I went to upgrade, it was subscription based. But there's a standalone app in the App Store for $15.

What gives? Is the $15 app the same as the subscription version? Very confusing.
I never subscribed to anything and never heard of that. I use Infuse on my iPhone as well. I bought it one time.

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I didn't realize I had the non-pro of Infuse installed. I even created an account!



So when I went to upgrade, it was subscription based. But there's a standalone app in the App Store for $15.



What gives? Is the $15 app the same as the subscription version? Very confusing.


1) subscription model get you upgrades regardless of the version of Infuse.
2) the one time purchase limits you to the “major” (4,5,6,etc) only. So if you make a one time purchase at version 5 and they release 6, you’d need to purchase again to get that new version.

https://firecore.com/forum/topic/17587
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