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What’s the advantage of doing it this way over an MKV or ISO?


Some folks are using the folder format to play DolbyVision via their Oppo player. I Persia lot prefer ISO or MKV.
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Forgive me if this has been asked. I've only been lurking these forums when I have a problem lately. I tried to rip "The Patriot" UHD via makemkv and noticed it couldn't open disc. So I downloaded the latest hashed key file. Still no luck (noticed it wasn't even in the latest file). I stumbled upon a thread talking about some newer UHD have AACS 2.1 (this if the first I've heard).

Is there a solution or workaround yet? I read somewhere DeUHD works but I'm hesitant to send my info off to Russia.
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Forgive me if this has been asked. I've only been lurking these forums when I have a problem lately. I tried to rip "The Patriot" UHD via makemkv and noticed it couldn't open disc. So I downloaded the latest hashed key file. Still no luck (noticed it wasn't even in the latest file). I stumbled upon a thread talking about some newer UHD have AACS 2.1 (this if the first I've heard).

Is there a solution or workaround yet? I read somewhere DeUHD works but I'm hesitant to send my info off to Russia.
Yes, there were 2 4K UHD titles (The Patriot and Fury) issued at the same time frame that contained the AACS 2.1 copy protection and as of yet it has not been fixed in MakeMKV. Thankfully, AFAIK... there have been no other titles issued with this protection scheme... Why there haven't been more issued is a mystery though...
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Is there a solution or workaround yet? I read somewhere DeUHD works but I'm hesitant to send my info off to Russia.

That is exactly why I’ve avoided trying that software. That and the ASUS model they push is, how do I say this without profanity, not my favorite

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Forgive me if this has been asked. I've only been lurking these forums when I have a problem lately. I tried to rip "The Patriot" UHD via makemkv and noticed it couldn't open disc. So I downloaded the latest hashed key file. Still no luck (noticed it wasn't even in the latest file). I stumbled upon a thread talking about some newer UHD have AACS 2.1 (this if the first I've heard).

Is there a solution or workaround yet? I read somewhere DeUHD works but I'm hesitant to send my info off to Russia.
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Yes, there were 2 4K UHD titles (The Patriot and Fury) issued at the same time frame that contained the AACS 2.1 copy protection and as of yet it has not been fixed in MakeMKV. Thankfully, AFAIK... there have been no other titles issued with this protection scheme... Why there haven't been more issued is a mystery though...
Yep! That's when people resorted to other sources as an alternative.
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Yep! That's when people resorted to other sources as an alternative.

I’m drawing a blank here, which for me is nothing new but, what does that mean?

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Funny you should mention that, my guy at the post office just showed me a way I can do that, to the tune of -50%, when people wish to adopt a BU40N in the future
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Out of interest...

How well are people here getting on with MakeMKV GUI's new LibreDrive mode?


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How well are people here getting on with MakeMKV GUI's new LibreDrive mode?

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How well are people here getting on with MakeMKV GUI's new LibreDrive mode?


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Seems fine so far. Support for additional drives especially the so called "official" UHD drives, WH16NS60 full sized, BU40N slim/laptop, and NB60xx10 external USB drive is great. Actually not sure if the 60/10 is working yet.
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Has anyone else ripped Ralph Breaks The Internet to MKV and wound up with audio dropouts? I've tried it with DVDFab and MakeMKV and got the same results. The dropouts do not seem to occur when watching a full disc BDMV rip. Usually between the 7:30 and 9:00 min time codes I will get several, but they are not always repeatable.

I noted that this title is stitched together from dozens of files, so I suspect an error of some sort in ripping.
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Has anyone else ripped Ralph Breaks The Internet to MKV and wound up with audio dropouts? I've tried it with DVDFab and MakeMKV and got the same results. The dropouts do not seem to occur when watching a full disc BDMV rip. Usually between the 7:30 and 9:00 min time codes I will get several, but they are not always repeatable.

I noted that this title is stitched together from dozens of files, so I suspect an error of some sort in ripping.
Yes, I got a lot of split-second audio dropouts with that movie. Not repeatable, seemed to get worse as movie went along but would get better if I stopped and restarted the movie. During the end credits the dropouts were out of control and happening every couple seconds. Have not noticed this issue with any other movie yet.
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Yes, I got a lot of split-second audio dropouts with that movie. Not repeatable, seemed to get worse as movie went along but would get better if I stopped and restarted the movie. During the end credits the dropouts were out of control and happening every couple seconds. Have not noticed this issue with any other movie yet.
Just to clarify, this was an MKV? I haven't yet had this with the full disc rip, but have not watched very much of it.
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Just to clarify, this was an MKV? I haven't yet had this with the full disc rip, but have not watched very much of it.
Yes. UHD-makemkv-MKV playing on Zidoo.
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Has anyone else ripped Ralph Breaks The Internet to MKV and wound up with audio dropouts? I've tried it with DVDFab and MakeMKV and got the same results. The dropouts do not seem to occur when watching a full disc BDMV rip. Usually between the 7:30 and 9:00 min time codes I will get several, but they are not always repeatable.

I noted that this title is stitched together from dozens of files, so I suspect an error of some sort in ripping.
I had zero issues with my MKV made with MakeMKV. No dropouts at all during the entire viewing of the UHD/HDR MKV. Viewed with Plex on a Shield TV.

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I'm to a fork in the road where I've racked up almost 1TB of BDMV backups. I have been saving them in case we figured out a way to extract Dolby Vision during the ripping process. Has anybody figured this out yet? I'd like to delete these BDMV folders, I made a few ISO files out of them but wasn't able to get the ISO to play nice in Emby clients and Kodi for Android.
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I'm to a fork in the road where I've racked up almost 1TB of BDMV backups. I have been saving them in case we figured out a way to extract Dolby Vision during the ripping process. Has anybody figured this out yet? I'd like to delete these BDMV folders, I made a few ISO files out of them but wasn't able to get the ISO to play nice in Emby clients and Kodi for Android.
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I had zero issues with my MKV made with MakeMKV. No dropouts at all during the entire viewing of the UHD/HDR MKV. Viewed with Plex on a Shield TV.
Weird, I will try on plex again but im pretty sure i seen a small dropout, i will have to get a timestap, it was brief. I think it was around an hour and 20 minutes or so. It was a split second drop but noticeable.

Zappiti totally lost audio at one point like with the incredibles. These disney movies are proving to be problematic.
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Weird, I will try on plex again but im pretty sure i seen a small dropout, i will have to get a timestap, it was brief. I think it was around an hour and 20 minutes or so. It was a split second drop but noticeable.

Zappiti totally lost audio at one point like with the incredibles. These disney movies are proving to be problematic.
Wreck-It Ralph does the same thing, as do probably many Disney titles. They use the complex branching to create the different "disc language" options where on-screen graphics are seen in different languages. Its a bad authoring design and apparently the ripping tools aren't adequately dealing with it. This was all more or less fixed for regular BDs but has returned with UHD.
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Weird, I will try on plex again but im pretty sure i seen a small dropout, i will have to get a timestap, it was brief. I think it was around an hour and 20 minutes or so. It was a split second drop but noticeable.

Zappiti totally lost audio at one point like with the incredibles. These disney movies are proving to be problematic.
It's possible it could have been there and I missed it. But typically if I notice any type of dropout from anything I watch on any device, I will rewind the program to see if it's repeatable. But it's been a very rare occurrence from any of my UHD BD rips.

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It's possible it could have been there and I missed it. But typically if I notice any type of dropout from anything I watch on any device, I will rewind the program to see if it's repeatable. But it's been a very rare occurrence from any of my UHD BD rips.
I wonder in the case of UHD rips and their greater bit rates needed... that for some people their network and other streaming components may be causing some intermittent issues like dropouts during max bit rate intensive scenes due to congestion or other limiting networking factors?
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I wonder in the case of UHD rips and their greater bit rates needed... that for some people their network and other streaming components may be causing some intermittent issues like dropouts during max bit rate intensive scenes due to congestion or other limiting networking factors?
I agree with that theory based on the fact it was not repeatable and seemed to get worse as the movie went along. After the movie, I changed one of my Zidoo settings but have no desire to watch Ralph again to see if it helped. If it starts happening with other uhd rips, I will investigate more.
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I wonder in the case of UHD rips and their greater bit rates needed... that for some people their network and other streaming components may be causing some intermittent issues like dropouts during max bit rate intensive scenes due to congestion or other limiting networking factors?

It has nothing to do with network connection. Different players connected to the same ethernet jack on the same port produce different results.

Im still making sense of it, seems to be two different idea's at play.

https://club.myce.com/t/atmos-audio-...-thread/399840

In the case here and guardians of the galaxy vol 2 the shield seems to have issues with the above, a shield employee confirmed the issue but said the fix broke other avr's.

Supposedly only lav filters on pc fixed it.

My zappiti does not experience guardians of the galaxy vol 2 bitrate issues and dropouts, however on ralph breaks the internet and incredibles 2, zappiti and the oppo have complete loss of audio in spots. Oppo apparently said it could be an issue with seamless branching and the ripping software (it uses the licensed player for everything including mkv's), and it sounds like makemkv spits out errors ripping these movies.

The shield oddly does not lose audio like those devices, but has split second dropouts possibly from high audio bitrate.

I dont know if these two are related or not, my head is spinning, but its 2019 and its frustrating disney movies are proving problematic remuxed to mkv. And unfortunately makemkv i dont think has ever responded to these issues about seamless branching titles and its software.

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And unfortunately makemkv i dont think has ever responded to these issues about seamless branching titles and its software.
I get the same issues whether I use MakeMKV or DVDFab to rip them.
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I wonder in the case of UHD rips and their greater bit rates needed... that for some people their network and other streaming components may be causing some intermittent issues like dropouts during max bit rate intensive scenes due to congestion or other limiting networking factors?
This is exactly right. Here's a personal example: Linux servers using mdadm raid run a disc sync check on the first Sunday of every month on the default setting. Server maxed out = dropouts. I was really confused until I looked closely at what was happening. Now I can pause the sync if I need to.

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I get the same issues whether I use MakeMKV or DVDFab to rip them.
Yeah I have seen reports of dvdfab having the same issue as well, I guess I should say neither has responded.

When oppo players also experience this when remux'd to mkv then i start looking at the ripping software.
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