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No problems for me with AnyDVD HD. Even muxed its Atmos track into the HD video since I’m not yet 4K.
The 4K UHD version? If so you must have a different version than mine. I posted my info at the AnyDVD HD Forum for this issue.

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The 4K UHD version? If so you must have a different version than mine. I posted my info at the AnyDVD HD Forum for this issue.
They list the US Best Buy version as the one not being supported.

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They list the Best Buy version as the one not being supported.
Yup but mine is a different version so I posted my details. Mine is from the Steelbook imported from India (that's how I also have the 3D version)

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The 4K UHD version? If so you must have a different version than mine. I posted my info at the AnyDVD HD Forum for this issue.
Yep. I bought the US UHD-HD-Digital (not 3D) copy from a local Best Buy. Ripped both Blu and UHD discs without problem. Extracted the UHD Atmos track and re-muxed it into my HD MKV and watched it. I haven't watched the UHD MKV, since I don't have a 4K display, but it ripped without incident and the audio ripped correctly.
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They list the US Best Buy version as the one not being supported.
I don't know. It worked for me.
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I don't know. It worked for me.
Maybe the list was not updated? I know ANy DVD HD eventually worked on the encrypted ISO I had made. I double checked the other day.

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Maybe the list was not updated? I know ANy DVD HD eventually worked on the encrypted ISO I had made. I double checked the other day.
Could be. I haven't run their version checker to see if my disc is the same as what they're saying is incompatible.
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Could be. I haven't run their version checker to see if my disc is the same as what they're saying is incompatible.
Mine isn't working (still) as of today.

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Mine isn't working (still) as of today.
I guess I got lucky? Glad to have been so...better to be lucky than good. When I have time I'll try to run the version checker to see if my copy is different from the problematic version.

FWIW, this is the version I bought
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I guess I got lucky? Glad to have been so...better to be lucky than good. When I have time I'll try to run the version checker to see if my copy is different from the problematic version.



FWIW, this is the version I bought

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/spider-...?skuId=6319621

I rented that from Redbox and it was accepted by makemkv. Not sure how the keys file breaks every so often. I doubt they released a new pressing of the second Harry Potter movie and not any of the others but I suppose it could happen


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Mine isn't working (still) as of today.
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Maybe the list was not updated? I know ANy DVD HD eventually worked on the encrypted ISO I had made. I double checked the other day.
My disc is a different “ID” than the one that can’t be ripped. I bought mine release week. Maybe they’ve tweaked the disc authoring since then.
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Black Hawk Down

A word of caution if you plan to rip BHD to MKV. This title has the same type complex branching as the Disney titles previously discussed, and may result in audio dropouts being baked into your MKV. I had to do a full disc rip for it to be dropout free.


How does one do a full disc rip? I’m encountering issues just ripping this disc...haven’t even got to playback yet.


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How does one do a full disc rip? I’m encountering issues just ripping this disc...haven’t even got to playback yet.


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I fail to see what difference it would make doing a full disc backup as opposed to just ripping the main title ...either way the branching issue will still be there, wouldn't it?... there are actually plenty of reports of dropouts just from people playing the discs normally in various 4k players with this title..unfortunately...
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I had zero issues ripping Black Hawk down with AnyDVD HD. I created a theatrical version mkv and an extended version mkv with Redfox Clone BD. Both played back flawlessly when I watched the MKVs last weekend on my Shield TVs with Plex

Whether I use MakeMKV or Any DVd and Clone BD to create the MKV. I've yet to have any playback issues from branching UHD BD titles. Playing them back with Plex.

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I don't know if my workflow for making MKVs makes any difference? I always create an ISO from the UHD BD on either an NVMe drive or SSD. Then I use that ISO to create the MKV. Which is written to an SSD or an NVMe drive. Then I copy those MKVs from the NVME or SSD to the platter drives on my Plex PC. And I copy the MKVs to one of my unRAIDs.
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Black Hawk Down

A word of caution if you plan to rip BHD to MKV. This title has the same type complex branching as the Disney titles previously discussed, and may result in audio dropouts being baked into your MKV. I had to do a full disc rip for it to be dropout free.
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Interesting.........Last night I watched this on UHD, and I had a couple of split second drop outs. they were very fast, but was wondering about it because I never have any issues, I have an Oppo player.
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I've had no issues with any of my Disney/Pixar UHD BD rips. Whether I used CloneBD or MakeMKV. Playing them in Plex with an Nvidia Shield.

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How does one do a full disc rip? I’m encountering issues just ripping this disc...haven’t even got to playback yet.


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I had zero issues ripping Black Hawk down with AnyDVD HD. I created a theatrical version mkv and an extended version mkv with Redfox Clone BD. Both played back flawlessly when I watched the MKVs last weekend on my Shield TVs with Plex

Whether I use MakeMKV or Any DVd and Clone BD to create the MKV. I've yet to have any playback issues from branching UHD BD titles. Playing them back with Plex.

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I don't know if my workflow for making MKVs makes any difference? I always create an ISO from the UHD BD on either an NVMe drive or SSD. Then I use that ISO to create the MKV. Which is written to an SSD or an NVMe drive. Then I copy those MKVs from the NVME or SSD to the platter drives on my Plex PC. And I copy the MKVs to one of my unRAIDs.
In an attemp to try and "herd the cats":

Based upon the detailed information reported by Aaron, the specific backup creation workflow and the playback method may affect the results. It would be nice if the rest of you could detail your backup creation workflow and playback methodology / source devices.

Without this critical information from multiple parties, we will just have to say we don’t know enough yet. I would help throw my data points into the mix, but I have not started watching any UHD material yet; I still have to calibrate my displays.

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. It would be nice if the rest of you could detail your backup creation workflow and playback methodology / source devices.
For those who have the playback issue, the workflow makes no difference whatsoever. The glitches are baked into the MKV files by all of the usual MKV creation methods available for UHD content. I tried them all. The only variable seems to be the playback method, the Oppo players are certainly finding something in the files to trip over, as others apparently are too.
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For those who have the playback issue, the workflow makes no difference whatsoever. The glitches are baked into the MKV files by all of the usual MKV creation methods available for UHD content. I tried them all. The only variable seems to be the playback method, the Oppo players are certainly finding something in the files to trip over, as others apparently are too.
Oh good I'm not alone. Just figured it was the occasional bad disc time to go exchange it for another one deal.

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I had zero issues ripping Black Hawk down with AnyDVD HD. I created a theatrical version mkv and an extended version mkv with Redfox Clone BD. Both played back flawlessly when I watched the MKVs last weekend on my Shield TVs with Plex

Whether I use MakeMKV or Any DVd and Clone BD to create the MKV. I've yet to have any playback issues from branching UHD BD titles. Playing them back with Plex.

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For those who have the playback issue, the workflow makes no difference whatsoever. The glitches are baked into the MKV files by all of the usual MKV creation methods available for UHD content. I tried them all. The only variable seems to be the playback method, the Oppo players are certainly finding something in the files to trip over, as others apparently are too.
Thanks for the input, gentlemen. It seems like it would be easier to focus on source device playback. Since I have both an OPPO UDP-203 and an Nvidia Shield TV Pro, I can add my experience when I start watching UHD titles.

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I don't know if my workflow for making MKVs makes any difference? I always create an ISO from the UHD BD on either an NVMe drive or SSD. Then I use that ISO to create the MKV. Which is written to an SSD or an NVMe drive. Then I copy those MKVs from the NVME or SSD to the platter drives on my Plex PC. And I copy the MKVs to one of my unRAIDs.
Which software tool are you using to create the MKV from the ISO?

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Which software tool are you using to create the MKV from the ISO?
I use either MakeMKV or CloneBD(Redfox) to create the MKV.

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In case anyone wants another data point, I have zero issues with playback of various UHD blu-rays with complicated seamless branching including the UHD Black Hawk Down (theatrical cut) on Infuse on the Apple TV 4K, ripped with various methods including AnyDVD, MakeMKV, and MKVToolnix. My guess is the playback engine/device is the main culprit. Infuse actually coverts the TrueHD track to 7.1 into PCM instead of bitstreaming if that makes any difference.
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In case anyone wants another data point, I have zero issues with playback of various UHD blu-rays with complicated seamless branching including the UHD Black Hawk Down (theatrical cut) on Infuse on the Apple TV 4K, ripped with various methods including AnyDVD, MakeMKV, and MKVToolnix. My guess is the playback engine/device is the main culprit. Infuse actually coverts the TrueHD track to 7.1 into PCM instead of bitstreaming if that makes any difference.
Are these also ripped into various formats? Or is the end result an MKV?
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Are these also ripped into various formats? Or is the end result an MKV?
All MKV
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In case anyone wants another data point, I have zero issues with playback of various UHD blu-rays with complicated seamless branching including the UHD Black Hawk Down (theatrical cut) on Infuse on the Apple TV 4K, ripped with various methods including AnyDVD, MakeMKV, and MKVToolnix. My guess is the playback engine/device is the main culprit. Infuse actually coverts the TrueHD track to 7.1 into PCM instead of bitstreaming if that makes any difference.
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In case anyone wants another data point, I have zero issues with playback of various UHD blu-rays with complicated seamless branching including the UHD Black Hawk Down (theatrical cut) on Infuse on the Apple TV 4K, ripped with various methods including AnyDVD, MakeMKV, and MKVToolnix. My guess is the playback engine/device is the main culprit. Infuse actually coverts the TrueHD track to 7.1 into PCM instead of bitstreaming if that makes any difference.
Just curious - what software are you using in combination with AnyDVD to produce a MKV file when ripping 4K UHD-BDs? I've been using MakeMKV to rip my UHD-BDs but would like to know what the alternatives are (I've been using AnyDVD for years for ripping my HD BD collection)

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Ripping UHD 4k discs with Makemkv: Instructions How-to

Has any of you tried ripping Dolby Vision disc to create a mp4?
(It has to be .mp4 as .mkv does not support dual layer)

CloneBD 1.2.5.0 started supporting Dolby Vision. (I heard the latest DVDFab started supporting DV, too).
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Has any of you tried ripping Dolby Vision disc to create a mp4?
(It has to be .mp4 as .mkv does not support dual layer)

CloneBD 1.2.5.0 started supporting Dolby Vision. (I heard the latest DVDFab started supporting DV, too).
But then you lose the lossless audio. You have to convert it to lossy audio for this. Which would be a hard pass for me.
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But then you lose the lossless audio. You have to convert it to lossy audio for this. Which would be a hard pass for me.
Indeed. AC3 is limitation. But some would take DV over lossless audio.
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