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Just spent three weeks and 22tb of new hdds creating movie only mkv.s from my 1:1 mkvs of UHD movies (about 400 movies). I wanted to consolidate all my movies and add nice jpg. images to make it a little nicer browsing for a movie to watch. BTW. I found out that you do not have to limit the jpg size to just 600x600. The larger the jpg or png file the nicer it looks on the OPPO Movie browser.

I sat down and watched 'The Martian' and endured many many audio drop outs (kinda ruins the movie ya know). Did I just waste three weeks of my time and $500.00 on new hard drives??? I watched a couple of my movie only mkvs after that and did not have any more than just one quick audio drop out. I watched Dark Phoenix and Passengers without that annoying audio glitch.

Is there a good/comprehensive list of mkv rips that have Atmos audio problems? Apparantly, if I want to avoid any Atmos audio problems my OPPO 203 will play the 1:1 full folder mkv without the drop outs.

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Just spent three weeks and 22tb of new hdds creating movie only mkv.s from my 1:1 mkvs of UHD movies (about 400 movies). I wanted to consolidate all my movies and add nice jpg. images to make it a little nicer browsing for a movie to watch. BTW. I found out that you do not have to limit the jpg size to just 600x600. The larger the jpg or png file the nicer it looks on the OPPO Movie browser.

I sat down and watched 'The Martian' and endured many many audio drop outs (kinda ruins the movie ya know). Did I just waste three weeks of my time and $500.00 on new hard drives??? I watched a couple of my movie only mkvs after that and did not have any more than just one quick audio drop out. I watched Dark Phoenix and Passengers without that annoying audio glitch.

Is there a good/comprehensive list of mkv rips that have Atmos audio problems? Apparantly, if I want to avoid any Atmos audio problems my OPPO 203 will play the 1:1 full folder mkv without the drop outs.
I have about the same number of 4K UHD movies that I copied to MKV that take up about 20TBs of storage on my NAS. I also watch them via the Oppo and I have never had any audio dropouts. Are the audio dropouts on the Martian in the same place? I can check my Martian mkv and see if I get the same dropouts.

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I didnt spend time looking for the timestamp on the dropouts. If i would switch audio stream then back again the atmos track would play, but only for a short amount of time. I finally realized that if i just paused the movie and hit play that would usually get the sound back.
I saw somewhere that dark phoenix had problems so i tried it. It only had one brief drop out at the very beginning

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Is there a good/comprehensive list of mkv rips that have Atmos audio problems? Apparantly, if I want to avoid any Atmos audio problems my OPPO 203 will play the 1:1 full folder mkv without the drop outs.
Its not Atmos per se, its Dolby TrueHD audio combined with complex branching. This was dealt with years ago on BDs, but thus far none of the rippers or players have dealt with it in UHD content. Best way to determine if a title has branching is to check how many M2TS files are being accessing when the rip is taking place. If its more than one, you may have dropouts. Disney/Pixar titles are the worst.
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Would selecting only the one main 7.1 audio file when ripping take care of tge problem?

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IME.... "movie only" MKVs work perfectly on known seamless branching titles. It is only when you try to play the whole movie folder or the ISO on these titles is when branching dropouts can occur...
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Would selecting only the one main 7.1 audio file when ripping take care of tge problem?
No, the issue is in the ripping software, something to do with extra video frames or the like. CloneBD was supposed to be working on a fix but so far its still broke. The other rippers seems to be unaware of it.

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IME.... "movie only" MKVs work perfectly on known seamless branching titles. It is only when you try to play the whole movie folder or the ISO on these titles is when branching dropouts can occur...
This is actually the opposite of what's true for UHD content. BDMV/ISO works, MKV does not. Some playback devices do not have the issue, some do.
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The Martian EE UHD has audio dropouts even with disc playback on my Oppo 203.

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Yeah, ripping the mlp audio track only didn't help either. I tried a couple other supposedly problematic titles. John wick 3 seemed to be fine. Incredibles 2 was unwatchable. Avengers endgame, pleasantly enough, even though a Disney title (I think), played through just fine.
I guess i will just have to keep 1:1 copies of all movies at the ready, in case a movie only rip has problems. Its a shame, i was wanting to sell some of my smaller hdds to defray the cost of the new larger hdds.

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I wonder if it might be possible to re-build some of these problematic 4K UHD Blu-ray disc back-ups using the new 'open-source' version of TSmuxer GUI, which now correctly supports HEVC video streams along with HDR10, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision.

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Yup, just had Zombieland 4k fail as well.
Zombieland is an AACS 2.1 title. With the newer, AACS 2.1 capable MAkeMKV, I had no problems ripping my Zombieland UHD BD.

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Just spent three weeks and 22tb of new hdds creating movie only mkv.s from my 1:1 mkvs of UHD movies (about 400 movies). I wanted to consolidate all my movies and add nice jpg. images to make it a little nicer browsing for a movie to watch. BTW. I found out that you do not have to limit the jpg size to just 600x600. The larger the jpg or png file the nicer it looks on the OPPO Movie browser.

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Is there a good/comprehensive list of mkv rips that have Atmos audio problems? Apparantly, if I want to avoid any Atmos audio problems my OPPO 203 will play the 1:1 full folder mkv without the drop outs.
I've ripped over two hundred fifty UHD BD titles now. I've not had any issues with Atmos audio when streaming those UHD MKVs to my Shield TVs. The Martian, both extended and theatrical, are two of them.

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The Martian EE UHD has audio dropouts even with disc playback on my Oppo 203.
No issues with the Disc playback of The MArtian EE on my Sony and Philips UHD BD players.
So maybe it's a problem with the disc? Or some issue with the Oppo?

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The martian happened to be the first one i sat down to watch and it freaked me out a little bit. Maybe it is not as big of a problem as i first thought.
So you have watched all of/ most of those 250+ rips?
My biggest problem is trying to get my wife to watch anything other than historical little women type movies. Its so hard to find anything she wants to watch out of the 2000+ movies we have on hand.

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Jumping into this thread and only having read the last page of posts... but this Atmos problem has its own (very long and inconclusive) thread at makemkv's forum:

https://makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=17597

And the suggested workaround appears to be ripping with makemkv and using cloneBD for making the mkv, when seamless branching is present (pixar, I'm looking at you.)

Doing that, I've re-ripped my two worst titles (Incredibles 2, and Ralph Breaks the Internet) and had no difficulty with the result.

Incredibles 2 was especially garbage when muxed with makemkv - seems ok with cloneBD.
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The martian happened to be the first one i sat down to watch and it freaked me out a little bit. Maybe it is not as big of a problem as i first thought.
So you have watched all of/ most of those 250+ rips?
My biggest problem is trying to get my wife to watch anything other than historical little women type movies. Its so hard to find anything she wants to watch out of the 2000+ movies we have on hand.

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The audio dropouts occur on The Martian EE 4K even with either full disc backups or MKV files played back from my PC or via the Oppo from a HDD. Picture looks fine with no dropouts or breakup in the stream.
Where the dropouts occur are mostly in the same spots, some of the earliest ones happen effectively in the exact spot but later ones if cued up can movie the dropout occurrence a little bit

I've tried this title on a friends system and it happens with theirs as well, however another title I have a dropout issue with it never happens on their system. Which maybe due to their system has a higher quality processor than my receiver, a DenonX6200. The other title is The Last Jedi, with full disc backup I do not have the dropout but with MKV files it always happens. Be it from my PC or from a HDD via the Oppo.

Neither The Martian EE or TLJ have any visible issues on the discs. Perhaps later pressings have fixed the audio issues for The Martian EE for others or maybe have better processors in their audio gear than mine. I am aware that there are issues Dolby THD tracks with seamless branching and depending on how robust the DSPs are in a given sound system may mitigate those encode issues better.

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I've ripped over two hundred fifty UHD BD titles now. I've not had any issues with Atmos audio when streaming those UHD MKVs to my Shield TVs. The Martian, both extended and theatrical, are two of them.

Are you able to preserve both DV and Atmos tracks while ripping? I've not yet found a solution to preserve both, but admittedly I'm just starting my ripping adventures.

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Are you able to preserve both DV and Atmos tracks while ripping? I've not yet found a solution to preserve both, but admittedly I'm just starting my ripping adventures.
You can now. And you can also select the audio and subtitle tracks 'you' require.

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I wonder if it might be possible to re-build some of these problematic 4K UHD Blu-ray disc back-ups using the new 'open-source' version of TSmuxer GUI, which now correctly supports HEVC video streams along with HDR10, HDR10+ and Dolby Vision.

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So I take it there's still no way to have a single playable file that supports BOTH DV+Atmos? I'm coming up dry on finding a way to do that, minus getting a player like the Oppo 203.

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Are you able to preserve both DV and Atmos tracks while ripping? I've not yet found a solution to preserve both, but admittedly I'm just starting my ripping adventures.
I'm not trying to preserve DV. If I had never sold my Oppo it would be a different story. But I also have no desire to jump through a bunch of hoops to get it. I just want to rip the title and be done with it. And I'm already ripping to ISO and then creating an MKV from the ISO. So I can at least go back to the ISo if I want to mess with streaming a DV version later. Instead of sticking a disc in the drive again.
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Nice thing about saving the ISO, it is many times faster creating a mkv from ISO than from the optical disc

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So I take it there's still no way to have a single playable file that supports BOTH DV+Atmos? I'm coming up dry on finding a way to do that, minus getting a player like the Oppo 203.
If you mean something as simple as .mkv (Matroska) contained files then, no!

Although the newest version of (Mosu's) 'MKVToolNix GUI' is now able to store the secondary Dolby Vision (1920x1080) video stream completely intact, hardware playback devices that currently support Dolby Vision (ie: UHD Blu-ray players and TV's) will require entirely new Matroska decoder/parsing software to be installed. And I very much doubt this will happen in the near future!


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Returning to ripping UHD movies

Hi everyone. New to this thread but been ripping blu rays and UHD blu rays for a while. Actually I was really into it when we first had the ability to start ripping UHD movies but then eventually figured it was less hassle to just put the disc in the blu ray player than it was to try to get everything to work the way I wanted it to...Main issue was my old UHD player (Sony x700) wouldn't display subtitles in .mkv or .m2ts format. My current UHD player (Panasonic UB820 is trash for playing files from USB hard drive) But I recently setup a Plex Server and it's working really well and I thought about ripping my UHD collection as Plex recongnizes the chapter markings and displays subs well.
So before I get a new HDD I have a couple questions if someone wouldn't mind answering them.

1. Branching- is this when you pop a disc in and go to rip with MakeMKV and it appears that the disc has more than one copy of the main movie to choose from? I do notice this more on Disney and Pixar discs as suggested.
2. Is MakeMKV still the easiest and preferred way to rip the discs? I have the paid version and know I can create a 1:1 copy in folder structure or a .mkv file. Or is there a better solution at this point? What are you guys using to create .iso files?
3. If creating an .iso file, is it possible now to burn that .iso to disc without issues? I seem to remember triple layer discs having a high failure rate at the 3rd layer change.


Thanks for any feedback.
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So before I get a new HDD I have a couple questions if someone wouldn't mind answering them.
One HD is ok (get the $160 10tb Best Buy EasyStore), but if you're serious, get a NAS. This hobby eats more terrabytes than anything else.

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1. Branching- is this when you pop a disc in and go to rip with MakeMKV and it appears that the disc has more than one copy of the main movie to choose from? I do notice this more on Disney and Pixar discs as suggested.
Yep.

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2. Is MakeMKV still the easiest and preferred way to rip the discs? I have the paid version and know I can create a 1:1 copy in folder structure or a .mkv file. Or is there a better solution at this point? What are you guys using to create .iso files?
Some like the pay tools for ease of use, but MakeMKV is the leader. I set it up to automatically choose all English audio and subtitle tracks, so I just need to click once or twice to choose the playlist and it's good to go. If you have an Oppo, MakeMKV's full folder backup is all you need to preserve DV and have a useful file. You don't need iso for peasant HDR discs. The question would be, what are you trying to accomplish?

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3. If creating an .iso file, is it possible now to burn that .iso to disc without issues? I seem to remember triple layer discs having a high failure rate at the 3rd layer change.
Sure, but why use disc? Rip to HD. Easy, permanent storage that you can back up, play back, and access quickly. It dumb to pay $5 for a 100gb triple layer when HD storage is $1.60 per 100gb and online storage is $2.And those prices are falling rapidly.

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"and online storage is $2.And those prices are falling rapidly."

What is the best/cheapest Online Storage Solution to Backup a 50GB (Synology) NAS Full of 4K/HD Files?

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One HD is ok (get the $160 10tb Best Buy EasyStore), but if you're serious, get a NAS. This hobby eats more terrabytes than anything else.


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Some like the pay tools for ease of use, but MakeMKV is the leader. I set it up to automatically choose all English audio and subtitle tracks, so I just need to click once or twice to choose the playlist and it's good to go. If you have an Oppo, MakeMKV's full folder backup is all you need to preserve DV and have a useful file. You don't need iso for peasant HDR discs. The question would be, what are you trying to accomplish?


Sure, but why use disc? Rip to HD. Easy, permanent storage that you can back up, play back, and access quickly. It dumb to pay $5 for a 100gb triple layer when HD storage is $1.60 per 100gb and online storage is $2.And those prices are falling rapidly.


Thanks for the clarification. I don't have an oppo so full disc backup to retain DV isn't really an option and I don't think paying 1500 for a blu ray player makes any sense. I have a 75 z9d as well and I can't imagine the difference in picture quality coming from an oppo is going to be much different than the panny UB820, so the only advantage would be playing DV rips...I don't have a full blown audio system with receiver at this point. And it's not like 4k blu ray discs are outrageously priced and I don't have a problem tossing a disc in the player every now and again.
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After 2 years, I was finally able to rip my 4K version of Dunkirk. Countless times of Cleaning the disc, yet I could not rip it to my NAS. The disc plays fine in my Oppo 203 and I never ran into any issue with it. This time around, I was just curious and took one of my Microfiber Towels I use to dry my car, and the ripping process completed without a hitch. Go figure.
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