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post #721 of 2426 Old 07-04-2018, 08:22 AM
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" Make sense?"



It is still of topic for this thread regardless of if it does or does not make sense.



Those of us who have the public beta get notifications from this thread to find out the new posts are off topic. Make your own developer thread please.



Make sense?


I disagree. The developer and beta updates are usually so close together in release that chat about the developer release is relevant. It’s almost like a sneak preview of what’s coming. I certainly don’t want to be jumping between different threads to find relevant info.



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I disagree. The developer and beta updates are usually so close together in release that chat about the developer release is relevant. It’s almost like a sneak preview of what’s coming. I certainly don’t want to be jumping between different threads to find relevant info.
AGREED! This has been the flow of this particular beta topic from the very start!

EDIT: The tvOS beta process is a completely different animal than other Apple betas. Slow and steady with minor changes etc...

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" Make sense?"

It is still of topic for this thread regardless of if it does or does not make sense.

Those of us who have the public beta get notifications from this thread to find out the new posts are off topic. Make your own developer thread please.

Make sense?
Those of us that are in the developer beta can give those in the public beta the heads up when it comes to features but even more importantly bugs, which can help others avoid running into them or updating. (Such as Skunkbeard warned about bugs.)

On top of being potentially helpful in avoiding issues, the releases are a mere few days apart on average. Make sense?
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I am on the Dev Team as well and I would definitely give an immediate heads up if something alarming was going on in the beta which could be released to the Public beta. I would want the same from others.

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It is still of topic for this thread regardless of if it does or does not make sense.
The word "public" is in the thread title because the terms of the developer agreement prohibit public discussion of developer beta releases. This is widely ignored but I opted for the more cautious approach. Of course there are conditions for the public beta but it is, by definition, public. Since the ATV public betas releases are typically proximate to developer beta releases I don't think particularly interesting details are major transgressions of the spirit of the thread.
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I bet tomorrow the second public beta of tvOS 12 will be released. I am looking forward to any improvements that is included. I saw a YouTube video where on developer beta 3 that the wording in the audio menu has changed for example convert format is now change format.
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The word "public" is in the thread title because the terms of the developer agreement prohibit public discussion of developer beta releases. This is widely ignored but I opted for the more cautious approach. Of course there are conditions for the public beta but it is, by definition, public. Since the ATV public betas releases are typically proximate to developer beta releases I don't think particularly interesting details are major transgressions of the spirit of the thread.
+1 to this. Although it's a good idea in general to keep threads on topic, it's pretty clear that the developer beta and the public beta are closely related. No need to have a separate thread for small tangential discussions. Spirit of the thread is the key.
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I am running the current public beta on my ATV 4K. Over the last several days I have been watching “the Tunnel” using the PBS streaming app. I notice some jerkiness/stuttering on scenes with motion. I don’t typically see motion issues with Netflix and Amazon streaming. Is this because the Tunnel was filmed in England, perhaps with 50 FPS video as opposed to 60 FPS like here in the US? Not sure if I am asking the question correctly or not. Regardless, is there a setting on the ATV that needs to be changed? I am currently set to 4K SDR 60Hz, 4:4:4, with Match Range On and Match Frame Rate Off.

Would 4K SDR 50Hz be a better setting?
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I am running the current public beta on my ATV 4K. Over the last several days I have been watching “the Tunnel” using the PBS streaming app. I notice some jerkiness/stuttering on scenes with motion. I don’t typically see motion issues with Netflix and Amazon streaming. Is this because the Tunnel was filmed in England, perhaps with 50 FPS video as opposed to 60 FPS like here in the US? Not sure if I am asking the question correctly or not. Regardless, is there a setting on the ATV that needs to be changed? I am currently set to 4K SDR 60Hz, 4:4:4, with Match Range On and Match Frame Rate Off.

Would 4K SDR 50Hz be a better setting?
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Try that, or simply turn on Match Frame Rate.

If the source is 25 or 50, it should output 50p to your display, as long as your display is happy with 50Hz.

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I am running the current public beta on my ATV 4K. Over the last several days I have been watching “the Tunnel” using the PBS streaming app. I notice some jerkiness/stuttering on scenes with motion. I don’t typically see motion issues with Netflix and Amazon streaming. Is this because the Tunnel was filmed in England, perhaps with 50 FPS video as opposed to 60 FPS like here in the US? Not sure if I am asking the question correctly or not. Regardless, is there a setting on the ATV that needs to be changed? I am currently set to 4K SDR 60Hz, 4:4:4, with Match Range On and Match Frame Rate Off.



Would 4K SDR 50Hz be a better setting?


Match frame rate on is best our Sony’s handle 50hz FYI I’ve found the pbs app to be unstable with motion and smearing.

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Match frame rate on is best our Sony’s handle 50hz FYI I’ve found the pbs app to be unstable with motion and smearing.
OK, I will try that. I agree, I have had a lot of issues with PBS streaming.
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OK, I will try that. I agree, I have had a lot of issues with PBS streaming.
PBS uses a lower bitrate than mega providers. You will notice quality issues during fast motion.
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Home Sharing (Using the Computers app to play from an iTunes library) is almost completely broken. Keeps kicking back out to top level menu, shows wrong cover art if you shuffle, but doesn't usually make it through more than 10 seconds of a song before quitting anyway, etc.).


Mines working. I am getting intermittent 3-4 second audio drops on all apps including iTunes movies. I submitted a bug report on this but would be interested to hear if anyone else sees/hears this.


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Mines working. I am getting intermittent 3-4 second audio drops on all apps including iTunes movies. I submitted a bug report on this but would be interested to hear if anyone else sees/hears this.


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Interesting. I have 3 Home Sharing computers on the network, maybe that is part of the problem.

If you shuffle a playlist does it show the correct artwork? On mine, it shuffles the songs, but plays each with the artwork as if they were played in playlist order.

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Interesting. I have 3 Home Sharing computers on the network, maybe that is part of the problem.



If you shuffle a playlist does it show the correct artwork? On mine, it shuffles the songs, but plays each with the artwork as if they were played in playlist order.


No, good catch. The cover art is all off. You should submit in the bug reporter.


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Atmos is unstable on Beta 3 on my Onkyo TX-NR676. 9 times out of 10 it switches to PCM. I got it to work once on Vudu after trying like 20x.

I have Dolby Vision working, so I don't think it's the cable. All my other sources work just fine with Atmos (TV, Shield, etc).

I guess I'll send feedback to Apple.
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Public beta 2 is now available to download.
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So let's make sure I have this straight. We should post only on topic unless a person who wants to post something off topic thinks there's a good reason to post something not on topic and in those instances its okay to not worry about the topic of the thread and post away regarding information that is not on topic because the person posting off topic thinks its okay even though the poster knows full well it is off topic.

In those situations posting off topic is not off topic.

That about right?
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Did you check in general info and check what you have against the last few digits whic I posted above

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I just checked earlier today and it said I had the latest...
It came out after 1p Eastern time.

I have downloaded and installed it. Everything is working fine for me. No major changes I can see except for a Aeriel Screensaver that now says “Passing Downtown Los Angeles”. None of the other screensavers give details of their location.

Only Atmos i’m getting is from Vudu and some Atmos demos that I put in iTunes on my iMac and playback thru the Computers app on the Apple TV 4K.
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It came out after 1p Eastern time.

I have downloaded and installed it. Everything is working fine for me. No major changes I can see except for a Aeriel Screensaver that now says “Passing Downtown Los Angeles”. None of the other screensavers give details of their location.

Only Atmos i’m getting is from Vudu and some Atmos demos that I put in iTunes on my iMac and playback thru the Computers app on the Apple TV 4K.
👍 same here no issues yet Atmos ok in vudu no Atmos in iTunes or Netflix.

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Downloaded 5313d this afternoon. On mine at least it killed ATMOS on VUDU . Had it before update but gone now. Also when exiting a movie to the VUDU main screen the audio from the movie you exited continues to play in the background. Only way to stop it is to exit the app back to the home screen.
Also could not find any ATMOS on iTunes but I expected that.
Guess I'll have to revert to my X700 or TV app to get ATMOS for the time being.
Not a good update and plagued with more problems than the first one in my opinion.
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Before I posted above I checked a couple Atmos movies on vudu they played fury road and blade runner 2049 I’ll have to check back to see if it’s removed.

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Downloaded 5313d this afternoon. On mine at least it killed ATMOS on VUDU .
Guess I'll have to revert to my X700 or TV app to get ATMOS for the time being.
Not a good update and plagued with more problems than the first one in my opinion.
Atmos is unrelated to the beta release (in the general case). Vudu Atmos was working right after the update, I haven't checked since.
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No you don’t have it right. As “the poster” in question I felt it was on topic due to the close proximity of the releases (just hours apart). Others agree. Time to move on...

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